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The Milkman posted:You have to unplug the controller to get full KB+M support. It's silly. It was a system tester 2 years ago when it came out. Graphics haven't exactly progressed since then.
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phreaky posted:It was a system tester 2 years ago when it came out. Graphics haven't exactly progressed since then. I thought it was newer than that. Welp, bye
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Jul 17, 2012 10:15
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Also most of the people running $3-500 worth of graphics cards are the computer equivalent of ceramic wire stand audiophiles or crazy flight sim fans who use like five monitors.
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Jul 17, 2012 10:42
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The Milkman posted:You have to unplug the controller to get full KB+M support. It's silly. Got a 6870 too, but I guess it must be the Phenom II that might be starting to bottleneck me? Or the DDR2 RAM, drat I need to build a new PC eventutally.
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Jul 17, 2012 17:37
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So they're also charging 60€ for Warfighter. Yeah, gently caress them.
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Jul 17, 2012 20:41
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Hahah Battlefield 4 already? Has there been any info on it yet? Time period? I'd rather them do a BF 2142 remake with the new engine than release a whole new game. Sad to see BF going the CoD route, at least BC2 was fun.
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Jul 17, 2012 21:30
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The existence of Battlefield 4 doesn't do anything to take away from the fact that Battlefield 3 is still probably the best FPS currently on the market so I'm not really worried.
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Jul 17, 2012 22:16
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I'm genuinely curious why they did it. BC2 -> BF3 was an engine update with a lot more stuff in the game and larger maps. What the hell is BF4 going to have over BF3 outside of different maps, which isn't even a plus? Well, I know why they did it, but why? Hopefully people will stick to 3 like apparently a lot of people did with MW2.
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Jul 17, 2012 22:42
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Balobam posted:I'm genuinely curious why they did it. BC2 -> BF3 was an engine update with a lot more stuff in the game and larger maps. Future setting? A more efficient engine that leads to even larger maps, better destruction, and higher player counts? I'm excited and besides, it won't be coming out until 2014 anyway.
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Jul 18, 2012 00:26
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Balobam posted:What the hell is BF4 going to have over BF3 outside of different maps, which isn't even a plus? Well if it doesn't take place in the future it'll have gently caress all. If it does take place in the future, it'll be mega rad.
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Jul 18, 2012 00:29
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Vertigus posted:Well if it doesn't take place in the future it'll have gently caress all. If it does take place in the future, it'll be mega rad. Calling it: 256 vs. 256 player Titan battles  Actually, depending on the success of Planetside 2, I think EA/DICE will definitely be moving into the F2P MMOFPS platform.
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Jul 18, 2012 00:30
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Vertigus posted:Well if it doesn't take place in the future it'll have gently caress all. If it does take place in the future, it'll be mega rad. I... I didn't even think of that possibility. That would be amazing. Better destruction would also be great, maybe large buildings that are entirely destructible, instead of just certain parts of them.
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Jul 18, 2012 00:33
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fookolt posted:Calling it: 256 vs. 256 player Titan battles I know what Titan you're thinking of but this is the one I want in a large scale battle:  The Dawn of War series looks like it might be headed in the Epic scale away from small squad tactics so I'd kill for a shooter in the same way.
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Jul 18, 2012 00:42
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Evek posted:I know what Titan you're thinking of but this is the one I want in a large scale battle: Well, DICE did say that even the BF3 engine supports up to 128 players and hopefully if Planetside 2 is a success (I would be very surprised if it wasn't), we're going to see all kinds of large scale MMOFPS type games. You know what I would really love to see? Battletech a la Mechwarrior: Living Legends. That would be incredible. And yeah! Warhammer would possibly be a really cool franchise to use considering there are all those races and factions.
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Jul 18, 2012 00:55
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fookolt posted:Well, DICE did say that even the BF3 engine supports up to 128 players and hopefully if ...
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Batham posted:Stop right there; consoles. 2014 is getting into next-gen console territory. Since they'll likely have more than a half GB of total memory (that's system and video combined), they might be able to handle a few more players.
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Jul 18, 2012 04:45
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Batham posted:Stop right there; consoles. PC's already got 64 player multiplayer unlike the consoles and as Male Man mentioned, we'll be getting new consoles in 2014.
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Jul 18, 2012 06:41
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Male Man posted:2014 is getting into next-gen console territory. Since they'll likely have more than a half GB of total memory (that's system and video combined), they might be able to handle a few more players. I believe they said the hardware of the current generation would be fine for 128 players but Microsoft has strict bandwidth limits or something.
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Jul 18, 2012 06:54
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Hell, didn't the PS3 have a game that had 128 players or something? MAG I think?
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Jul 18, 2012 06:57
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mcvey posted:I believe they said the hardware of the current generation would be fine for 128 players but Microsoft has strict bandwidth limits or something. There's also the issue of dedicated servers. For some reason, MS and Sony hate the concept of people looking through a server list to find a server a low ping server with a map they want to play.
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Jul 18, 2012 07:01
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So what are the chances Battlefield 4 is a throwback and a sequel to Battlefield 1942, with more arcadey gameplay and less emphasis on infantry combat? (don't answer this I already know the answer  )
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Jul 18, 2012 07:02
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Male Man posted:2014 is getting into next-gen console territory. Since they'll likely have more than a half GB of total memory (that's system and video combined), they might be able to handle a few more players. fookolt posted:PC's already got 64 player multiplayer unlike the consoles and as Male Man mentioned, we'll be getting new consoles in 2014. As said above, it's not the hardware that's the problem, it's the limit that both Sony and Microsoft impose on bandwidth. For the people who bring up MAG as an example; keep in mind that MAG was possible because there wasn't anywhere near as much going on at a single moment in MAG, as there is in Battlefield 3.
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Jul 18, 2012 07:33
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Batham posted:As said above, it's not the hardware that's the problem, it's the limit that both Sony and Microsoft impose on bandwidth. That's still covered by the new consoles limiting player counts due to bandwidth concerns. Although if Battlefield becomes essentially an MMO in its own right, I'm sure that Microsoft and Sony won't care so much about bandwidth.
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Jul 18, 2012 07:49
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Picked up From Dust on the Steam Sale and I don't know how I feel about it. It's like a kid friendly version of Populous or something. It has insane screen tearing and no vsync option which is really bizarre, you can tell a minimal effort went into the port in general. Does the gameplay ever get more advanced or is it mostly like the later tutorial stuff?quote:So what are the chances Battlefield 4 is a throwback and a sequel to Battlefield 1942, with more arcadey gameplay and less emphasis on infantry combat? (don't answer this I already know the answer ) The faux mil-sim FPS stuff is still insanely popular, particularly on the consoles 
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Hanks Lust Cafe posted:I seriously cannot believe that Battlefield 4 is a thing already. That is stunning to me. Really? Even after they copied COD elite? EA are seriously determined to take 'worst publisher' back off activision. Who am I kidding, they did this when they shut down multiplayer servers for games less than a year old. I'm not going to boycott Battlefield 4 or anything silly but B3 was a big disappointment for me even if you ignore the fact it was broken for the first 6 months. They will have to do a lot to get me interested in the series again. Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jul 18, 2012 |
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Jul 18, 2012 14:39
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Is Crysis 2 just broken in DX11 mode on AMD Radeon cards? I tried clean installing the newest beta drivers on my HD7850/2500K rig and on my HD6850/i3-2120 rig and I get the same result: black border around the screen with terrible performance. If I disable the DX11 features and restart the game it works just fine.
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Mega Comrade posted:B3 was a big disappointment for me even if you ignore the fact it was broken for the first 6 months. They will have to do a lot to get me interested in the series again. Why was B3 a disappointment to you? I'm curious because it seems like a lot of people have this opinion about it.
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Jul 18, 2012 16:22
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spasticColon posted:Is Crysis 2 just broken in DX11 mode on AMD Radeon cards? I tried clean installing the newest beta drivers on my HD7850/2500K rig and on my HD6850/i3-2120 rig and I get the same result: black border around the screen with terrible performance. If I disable the DX11 features and restart the game it works just fine. That happened to me with Crysis, but I changed cards between playing 1 and 2. When I played 1 I would go to CCC and changed something to do with screen scaling. Try playing it in fullscreen windowed borderless which will get rid of the border, might fix the performance issues if that's why they're arising.
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Away all Goats posted:So what are the chances Battlefield 4 is a throwback and a sequel to Battlefield 1942, with more arcadey gameplay and less emphasis on infantry combat? (don't answer this I already know the answer That's what Battlefield 1943 was and it was actually mildly popular on consoles, but EA decided that it wasn't worth porting to PC.
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Balobam posted:That happened to me with Crysis, but I changed cards between playing 1 and 2. When I played 1 I would go to CCC and changed something to do with screen scaling. It's doing the same thing with Crysis Warhead and I set the scaling options correctly in CCC and all my other games work just fine but Crysis Warhead and Crysis 2 are having this black borders around the screen problem on both my HDTV and computer monitor. Is it because I'm using HDMI input?
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CerebralDonut posted:Why was B3 a disappointment to you? I'm curious because it seems like a lot of people have this opinion about it. This wasn't directed at me but I didn't care for the Conquest map design in BF3. You have huge, wide open areas and all of the cap points are concentrated or you have very narrow chokes to reach them. The level of cheating prevalence is pretty disturbing too. They've totally failed to address it despite repeated promises to go back to the netcode and fix things up (they gave way too much control to the client). The lack of squad level VoIP makes pubbing a nightmare and it feels like the general direction of the franchise will move toward CoD territory after the huge rush of CoD fans who bought into BF3 based on Metro. I actually revisited BF1942 a few years ago for kicks and its kinda sad how far the scope has regressed. We went from some modest effort at war theater representation (Aircraft carriers, subs, boats, fighters, bombers, tanks, jeeps, etc) to having 3-4 tanks, 2 jets and maybe a transport chopper on most maps. I understand infantry level combat is more visceral and popular these days and I love the new engines, particularly the fixed FPS mechanics but it feels more and more watered down as time goes on. Don't me wrong, it's still way ahead of competing franchises. It does feel EA chasing the mass market is starting to really affect the core strengths of Battlefield that made it unique and popular. The Gunslinger fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jul 18, 2012 |
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The Gunslinger posted:The level of cheating prevalence is pretty disturbing too. They've totally failed to address it despite repeated promises to go back to the netcode and fix things up (they gave way too much control to the client).
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Yeah they still use it but I can't even blame PB itself, they gave the client software a ridiculous level of control and access in BF3. I'm at work so I can't link them but Youtube some of the multihacks to get an idea of the absurdity that can be achieved. Most of the cheaters don't even get banned due to some weird interaction between BF3 and the Origin client software, they just get their scores reset (oh no!).
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spasticColon posted:It's doing the same thing with Crysis Warhead and I set the scaling options correctly in CCC and all my other games work just fine but Crysis Warhead and Crysis 2 are having this black borders around the screen problem on both my HDTV and computer monitor. Is it because I'm using HDMI input? It could well be, I had that blackborder problem in Crysis and I couldn't even play it at my native resolution because scaling wouldn't get rid of the border. Had to play the game at the 1600xsomething option. That might help? Obviously you'll be missing out on all those pixels, but if it gets it working it's worth it. I have a feeling it's an AMD thing, because my nvidia card works them just fine but my 5500 would keep throwing up the inch thick black borders.
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The Gunslinger posted:This wasn't directed at me but I didn't care for the Conquest map design in BF3. You have huge, wide open areas and all of the cap points are concentrated or you have very narrow chokes to reach them. The level of cheating prevalence is pretty disturbing too. They've totally failed to address it despite repeated promises to go back to the netcode and fix things up (they gave way too much control to the client). The lack of squad level VoIP makes pubbing a nightmare and it feels like the general direction of the franchise will move toward CoD territory after the huge rush of CoD fans who bought into BF3 based on Metro. This is spot on. Besides all of those things, the fact that they waaaay overplayed the 'environment destruction' was a huge downer. Even the beta had a lot more promise, but they just completely cut most of what was there.
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I have lost pretty much all of faith in Dice as a developer. BC2 even though it was a straight console port had the "it" feeling to it. I kept on coming back to it since it was so fun. There are so many things wrong with BF3, I bought the close quarters but its boring now after 20 hours or so. Nothing makes me want to get back into the game and slog through awful netcode and punkbuster inspired microstuttering. I am starting to wonder if I am just tired of MP FPS, but then again I am looking forward to Planetside somewhat. I just want something that is updated on the regular mostly. The most irritating thing about BF3 is that Dice has Origin, they would update every week if they wanted but they have released like 3 patches and its been out 9 months or so?
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Jul 18, 2012 20:36
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I dunno, I kinda liked the fact that they made Close Quarters and Armored whatever into seperate packs. I took one look at Close Quarters and knew that I didn't really want it.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:55
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I feel the same way about Armored Kill because they won't patch the vehicles any more and all of the maps will be huge spaces with 5 flags within 200 yards of each other.
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Honestly, I still play BF3, but I largely treat the game as a joke, a mindless diversion. People need to stop taking that game so seriously because EA will not allow it to be something that meaningfully lasts. Hey, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive comes out in a few weeks! Let's all play that instead.
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