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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

So it's still not as simple as somebody just wandering into an empty bunker and getting ambushed. I rest my case.

Explain how they know you specifically have been told by House to wipe out the BoS?

You're missing my point here

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Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Explain how they know you specifically have been told by House to wipe out the BoS?

Robots and poo poo. If you came sniffing around my hideout, I'd kill you too. At the very least, I'd strap a bomb to you to make sure you complied with my demands, until I could determine whether you were gently caress or fight.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Robots and poo poo. If you came sniffing around my hideout, I'd kill you too. At the very least, I'd strap a bomb to you to make sure you complied with my demands, until I could determine whether you were gently caress or fight.

Well that's not what you were saying before, if you said that at the start then I wouldn't have said anything!

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Except that doesn't happen for just waltzing into an abandoned bunker: You have to go to the correct one, and then make it clear that you possess sensitive information that only one of their (invincible) patrols should have had access to. You have to make it clear that you know they're in there.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe
In Skyrim, you break the economy if you enchant Banish to weapons. Vendors go nuts for Banish and pay exorbitant amounts. Is there an exploit like that in FNV?

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

rotinaj posted:

In Skyrim, you break the economy if you enchant Banish to weapons. Vendors go nuts for Banish and pay exorbitant amounts. Is there an exploit like that in FNV?

Chop a dude's head off, stuff it full of hundreds of pounds of gold, and blow out the Mojave economy.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Robots and poo poo. If you came sniffing around my hideout, I'd kill you too. At the very least, I'd strap a bomb to you to make sure you complied with my demands, until I could determine whether you were gently caress or fight.

I was mainly objecting to the Brotherhood having the right to indiscriminately detain and murder random strangers due to trespassing, which, regardless of whether reasoning can be attached to it, is pretty loving brutal and reactionary (though not out of character).

CrunchyTaco
Dec 25, 2007

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Chop a dude's head off, stuff it full of hundreds of pounds of gold, and blow out the Mojave economy.

Alternatively, pack your bag full of hundreds of combat knives.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Genocyber posted:

I'm interested in trying out the Requiem for Capital Wasteland mod. I want to know how buggy it is, and what you can go to (is it just vanilla FO3, or can you do the DLC as well?)

Also, do you need a super-beefy machine to run it?

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

I have a problem I'm hoping someone knows how to fix!

So I'm doing my Independent Vegas run and I'm at the Ultra-Luxe. I talked to Mortimer first and passed his speech check, thinking that this would allow me to circumvent most of the steps of the "good" path(I mean why wouldn't it!)

So I get down there and Chef Philippe isn't there, which prevents me from moving on in the quest. I get Ted out and return him to dad anyway, but that apparently locks me right into the Evil quest path where I have to kill that dude.

So I used console commands to reset the entire quest and I'm up to the right step. Unfortunately, Ted Gunderson is sitting stupidly next to his dad and just insults me when I try to talk to him. Like a jerk.

Is there a way to reset Ted back to his place in the basement so he talks to me again, or do I just have to murder everyone in the Ultra-Luxe(No big loss)

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


MrL_JaKiri posted:

Explain how they know you specifically have been told by House to wipe out the BoS?
That's a good question, but the fact is, somehow they know!

Try it yourself, start a new character, walk right over to the BoS bunker, and talk to the intercom. Do it as many times as you please, shoot at their door, stand there for days... the BoS will totally ignore you.

You need either a BoS code, or Veronica, or murderous intent to get in.

They don't just bomb-collar any random Joe who pokes their nose in.

(Disclaimer- I've never gotten in via murderous intent myself, so I don't know how they explain themselves at all.)

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!

rotinaj posted:

In Skyrim, you break the economy if you enchant Banish to weapons. Vendors go nuts for Banish and pay exorbitant amounts. Is there an exploit like that in FNV?

Play Dead Money, finish it with a big wad of pre-war money, and a never ending supply of free weapon repair kits to repair all weapons you find to 100% durability, sell them for mad caps. Alternatively, give no fucks about the message the DLC is trying to send you and go home with a loving giant stack of pure gold and be the richest dude ever.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Can't you lockpick that door? I seem to remember just waltzing in the first time and I wasn't working with Mr. House, never met Veronica, and hadn't been to any of the Brotherhood corpses.

Still, while I wanted the BOS to be friends with everybody, this chapter clearly couldn't.

When Mr. House asks you to do it, he gives you a spot-on description of them and how they're bound to try and gently caress with his poo poo. Sure enough, when I go into the Hidden Valley bunker, every single NPC that walks by me says "Boy that Mr. House sure has some cool poo poo, we should go pillage the gently caress out of him really soon!"

I like the Brotherhood of Steel as a whole but there's no reason individual chapters couldn't be dicks and die off. I prefer the NV interpretation over FO3s anyway.

anviroid
Aug 2, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Or teach ED-E to repair weapons in LR DLC. Loot all enemy weapons and have him repair them all for free before you sell them for phat lewtz.

Cicadalek
May 8, 2006

Trite, contrived, mediocre, milquetoast, amateurish, infantile, cliche-and-gonorrhea-ridden paean to conformism, eye-fucked me, affront to humanity, war crime, should *literally* be tried for war crimes, talentless fuckfest, pedantic, listless, savagely boring, just one repulsive laugh after another

Samopsa posted:

Play Dead Money, finish it with a big wad of pre-war money, and a never ending supply of free weapon repair kits to repair all weapons you find to 100% durability, sell them for mad caps. Alternatively, give no fucks about the message the DLC is trying to send you and go home with a loving giant stack of pure gold and be the richest dude ever.

Repair kits are pretty amazing even when you're not getting them for free. You only need something like repair 50 and some scrap items you find all over the place to make them, and they add way more than their value to the sell price of a valuable weapon.

The other popular way to make money is to get your luck to 7 and keep making money at all the casinos until they throw you out

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

1.) Hit level 14, get Jury Rigging
2.) Turn tier-1 weapons into tier-5 weapons, fully repaired.

If you are hurting for low-level high-quality weapons, hit up the Gun Runners, or use Throwing Spears-->Pool Cues.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

That DICK! posted:

I have a problem I'm hoping someone knows how to fix!

So I'm doing my Independent Vegas run and I'm at the Ultra-Luxe. I talked to Mortimer first and passed his speech check, thinking that this would allow me to circumvent most of the steps of the "good" path(I mean why wouldn't it!)

So I get down there and Chef Philippe isn't there, which prevents me from moving on in the quest. I get Ted out and return him to dad anyway, but that apparently locks me right into the Evil quest path where I have to kill that dude.

So I used console commands to reset the entire quest and I'm up to the right step. Unfortunately, Ted Gunderson is sitting stupidly next to his dad and just insults me when I try to talk to him. Like a jerk.

Is there a way to reset Ted back to his place in the basement so he talks to me again, or do I just have to murder everyone in the Ultra-Luxe(No big loss)

I had this same problem, so if you can reset to the start of the quest entirely, it's a real easy quest to do. Talk to the woman at the Gourmand, find out about the private detective, find Mortimer, get the room key, go up, find the body, fight the guys, go to the steam room, talk to that guy, then you can go to the kitchen and find Philippe.

It's the talk in the steam room that lets you go find Philippe.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

That DICK! posted:

Can't you lockpick that door? I seem to remember just waltzing in the first time and I wasn't working with Mr. House, never met Veronica, and hadn't been to any of the Brotherhood corpses.

Still, while I wanted the BOS to be friends with everybody, this chapter clearly couldn't.

When Mr. House asks you to do it, he gives you a spot-on description of them and how they're bound to try and gently caress with his poo poo. Sure enough, when I go into the Hidden Valley bunker, every single NPC that walks by me says "Boy that Mr. House sure has some cool poo poo, we should go pillage the gently caress out of him really soon!"

I like the Brotherhood of Steel as a whole but there's no reason individual chapters couldn't be dicks and die off. I prefer the NV interpretation over FO3s anyway.

Hey, they work just fine with the NCR. Hell, they even patrol I-15 after the battle if you get them to agree to the treaty.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe
How do I get the NCR to retake the NCRCF?

I already emptied it out during my rampage through the Powder Gangers and Fiends.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

rotinaj posted:

How do I get the NCR to retake the NCRCF?

I already emptied it out during my rampage through the Powder Gangers and Fiends.

You have to follow the "I fought the law" quest for the gangers until you get a choice between helping them or siding with the NCR when the attack comes.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe
Oh. So, since I already slaughtered everone in the building, it's just gonna stay dead now?

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Hey, they work just fine with the NCR. Hell, they even patrol I-15 after the battle if you get them to agree to the treaty.

They don't work with the guy who, given what you know at the time, seems like the much better choice for Elder. :colbert:

I was so mad about that. Sure, after you give McNamara the tapes he learns the error of his ways, but Hardin was right in the first place! I guess I wasn't supposed to side with Hardin because he's lazy and doesn't do his own footwork or something?

quote:

I had this same problem, so if you can reset to the start of the quest entirely, it's a real easy quest to do. Talk to the woman at the Gourmand, find out about the private detective, find Mortimer, get the room key, go up, find the body, fight the guys, go to the steam room, talk to that guy, then you can go to the kitchen and find Philippe.

It's the talk in the steam room that lets you go find Philippe.

Did you escort Ted back to his dad already though? He's just standing there like a dink for me, everything else is as it should be. I prepared the fake meal but everyone in the room is just standing there because Ted isn't following me.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

rotinaj posted:

Oh. So, since I already slaughtered everone in the building, it's just gonna stay dead now?

Yeah...this is one of those headscratchers because, in order to get the NCR to raid NCRCF, you have to cooperate with the Powder Gangers for a couple of missions before you even get any options to have the NCR attack.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

This all does remind me of one of the things that annoyed me about New Vegas. It's impossible to keep a secret because of that ever present 'spies' handwave. Want to work for Caesar, but keep it on the down low so you remain on NCR's good side? Nope, NCR has invisible spies and they know what you're doing. Want to work for the NCR but keep the Caesar from marking you for death? Nope, he has some drat good invisible spies too! Even if you leave absolutely no witnesses alive to report that you just butchered that random Legion guy over by Primm, Caesar magically knows, because spies.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

That DICK! posted:

They don't work with the guy who, given what you know at the time, seems like the much better choice for Elder. :colbert:

I was so mad about that. Sure, after you give McNamara the tapes he learns the error of his ways, but Hardin was right in the first place! I guess I wasn't supposed to side with Hardin because he's lazy and doesn't do his own footwork or something?


Did you escort Ted back to his dad already though? He's just standing there like a dink for me, everything else is as it should be. I prepared the fake meal but everyone in the room is just standing there because Ted isn't following me.

No, you've broken the mission as far as doing it in a "don't kill the White Gloves" way. You're gonna have to reload an older save and not get Ted until you have spoken with the steam room guy.

Captain Scandinaiva
Mar 29, 2010



The OP mentions not doing OWB at a high level due to level scaling issues. Define 'high level'? I just finished HH after spending some time in New Vegas and I'm almost level 20.

The DLC seem good and all, but as this is my first run through I'm more interested in the main quest and the Mojave.

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN
The best ways to make money I've found: have a luck of 8 or higher, play blackjack, and break the bank easily. Also cartoons of cigarettes sell for 40 caps each and you can find tons of them in Lucky 38.

Saint Sputnik
Apr 1, 2007

Tyrannosaurs in P-51 Volkswagens!

DeathChicken posted:

This all does remind me of one of the things that annoyed me about New Vegas. It's impossible to keep a secret because of that ever present 'spies' handwave. Want to work for Caesar, but keep it on the down low so you remain on NCR's good side? Nope, NCR has invisible spies and they know what you're doing. Want to work for the NCR but keep the Caesar from marking you for death? Nope, he has some drat good invisible spies too! Even if you leave absolutely no witnesses alive to report that you just butchered that random Legion guy over by Primm, Caesar magically knows, because spies.

I'm guessing chickens.

KnightLight
Aug 8, 2009

DeathChicken posted:

This all does remind me of one of the things that annoyed me about New Vegas. It's impossible to keep a secret because of that ever present 'spies' handwave. Want to work for Caesar, but keep it on the down low so you remain on NCR's good side? Nope, NCR has invisible spies and they know what you're doing. Want to work for the NCR but keep the Caesar from marking you for death? Nope, he has some drat good invisible spies too! Even if you leave absolutely no witnesses alive to report that you just butchered that random Legion guy over by Primm, Caesar magically knows, because spies.

What really annoys me is how early the cutoff point is. Oh, you don't want to wipe out the BoS? Well, you're stuck with Yes Man then because you did one too many missions for House! No NCR for you! That really burned me on my first playthrough, because you can't pull off the alliance anymore. It just seemed really arbitrary that doing one extra mission on the Strip cut me off from the other factions.

I'm also considering the Sawyer mod for my next playthrough.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Eiba posted:

Try it yourself, start a new character, walk right over to the BoS bunker, and talk to the intercom. Do it as many times as you please, shoot at their door, stand there for days... the BoS will totally ignore you.

Are you sure you're at the correct bunker? There are several abandoned ones.

wasabipimpninja
Sep 10, 2012
I cant loving finish this game, it keeps crashing on me especially with the DLC, step forward crash, crouch crash, fart crash.

To be honest thought it was a better game than fallout 3

Man Whore
Jan 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
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wasabipimpninja posted:

I cant loving finish this game, it keeps crashing on me especially with the DLC, step forward crash, crouch crash, fart crash.

To be honest thought it was a better game than fallout 3

Are you playing on Ps3? If so you're hosed. Never buy a bethesda engine game on Ps3.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
So they're teasing a new game:

http://www.obsidian.net/

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Man Whore posted:

Are you playing on Ps3? If so you're hosed. Never buy a bethesda engine game on Ps3.
I finished it on the PS3, but good god the last mission is just a lagging crawl :stare:

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

wasabipimpninja posted:

I cant loving finish this game, it keeps crashing on me especially with the DLC, step forward crash, crouch crash, fart crash.

To be honest thought it was a better game than fallout 3

It is a better game than Fallout 3 :ssh:

Man Whore
Jan 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
=3



Megazver posted:

So they're teasing a new game:

http://www.obsidian.net/

Judging by the fancy font and strange names,it looks like a fantasy game. If i'm right,so much for Chris Avellone being done with fantasy.

Fake Edit:or the 4 stands for Fallout 4.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Gynovore posted:

Are you sure you're at the correct bunker? There are several abandoned ones.

No, I'm pretty sure this is true. If you do not have any reason to visit the BoS bunkers, you can mash the intercom button in every single bunker until the cows come home: Nothing but static will be on the other end.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

wasabipimpninja posted:

I cant loving finish this game, it keeps crashing on me especially with the DLC, step forward crash, crouch crash, fart crash.

To be honest thought it was a better game than fallout 3

That's your fault for getting the PS3 version. Do to its unique processor, it simple cannot handle massive open world games.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Genocyber posted:

Do to its unique processor, it simple cannot handle massive open world games.

Well, it can, but you have to be a literal Wizard to write for the PS3 MEGACORE CPU. Even the PS3's architects are still learning how it was built.

Cream-of-Plenty fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Sep 11, 2012

Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved

Megazver posted:

So they're teasing a new game:

http://www.obsidian.net/

Well, that looks like something new.Do they have any publicly known projects other than Southpark and Wheel of Time?

Well, it does say 4. Maybe it's a new Dungeon Siege?

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Well, it can, but you have to be a literal Wizard to write for the PS3 MEGACORE CPU. Even the PS3's architects are still learning how it was built.

Truly, the PS3 is the most advanced gaming system :shepface:

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