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That loving Sned posted:He was on the title screen of Final Fantasy XIII, and all he did was design the main characters' faces. Doubtful. If you look at the background during the battle footage, you'll notice the stage is missing a lot of geometry and detail.
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quote:The game’s conclusion can be experienced straight from the package. (No download content will need to be purchased, unlike Final Fantasy XIII-2.)  THE AWESOME GHOST posted:"Lightning’s new costume is designed by Tetsuya Nomura."
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Dec 26, 2012 18:20
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Calaveron posted:The fact they have to tote this as a MAJOR FEATURE AND IMPROVEMENT gives me great hope for the game That's just because of what they did in XIII-2. There were a lot of unhappy people over it.
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Dec 26, 2012 18:22
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Dec 26, 2012 18:25
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So apparently there's going to be FFXIV on the Vita, maybe. That will be something. No real details so far, or promises, but since the game already has a controller interface and the new engine seems to work on pcs with lesser specs than the vita, it may very well end up being the full game.
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Dec 26, 2012 21:42
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Winks posted:That's just because of what they did in XIII-2. There were a lot of unhappy people over it. I don't get it, the Lightning DLC didn't add anything to the ending that was already on the disc. What were people complaining about then? 
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Dec 27, 2012 01:37
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Krad posted:I don't get it, the Lightning DLC didn't add anything to the ending that was already on the disc. What were people complaining about then? You answered your question yourself. The game had a poo poo ending, S-E released the Lightning DLC and people got their hopes up for some reason, and then the (paid) DLC didn't add a thing. Renoistic fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Dec 27, 2012 |
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Dec 27, 2012 01:55
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Krad posted:I don't get it, the Lightning DLC didn't add anything to the ending that was already on the disc. What were people complaining about then? There was the lack of a conclusion to XIII-2. The public statements that the DLC would 'reveal the hidden truth' behind the game’s endings and so on. The failure of the Lightning DLC to actually do that. It also just feels wrong to pay for a short conclusion as DLC, even when they failed to do that anyway.
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Dec 27, 2012 02:01
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There was plenty of conclusion to 13-2, just not what most people wanted (not in terms of tone, but in terms of things concluded; it answered it's own story machinations, for the most part)
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Dec 27, 2012 02:05
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13-2 had a conclusion, the conclusion was just "Han Solo is frozen in carbonite, Luke lost his hand, sucks for everyone."
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Dec 27, 2012 02:11
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ImpAtom posted:13-2 had a conclusion, the conclusion was just "Han Solo is frozen in carbonite, Luke lost his hand, sucks for everyone." Its more like "everyone is celebrating in a forest with a bunch of furry creatures after they defeated the evil empire." a few moments pass and then "Han Solo is frozen in carbonite, Luke lost his hand, sucks for everyone."
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Dec 27, 2012 02:15
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e: ^^^ Yeah, that too. At the time the existance of a XIII-3 was speculation. I was 99.9% sure that there was going to be one, but without a guarantee and SE being coy about it there were lots of annoyed people.
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Dec 27, 2012 02:16
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I was mostly annoyed that the ending meant there had to be at least one more sequel. I'm done with that world and would rather have S-E do something completely different.
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Dec 27, 2012 02:20
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I honestly just can't believe FFXIII got two sequels, but I guess reusing assets paid off for them.
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Dec 27, 2012 02:21
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Personally I was done after 13 but I liked 13-2 enough to want to finish out the saga.
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Dec 27, 2012 02:23
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Winks posted:e: ^^^ Yeah, that too. Well that explains it. I guess it's a good I missed out on all of that since I bought the game like a year after its original release. 
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Dec 27, 2012 02:24
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I bought the PC re-release of FFVII today, but after that I read that after 30 days, the download link expires. Does anyone here know if I can use the activation key as many times as I need? I'll live with it if I can keep backups of the download client and reuse the activation key whenever. I contacted support about this but I haven't gotten a straight answer yet...I REALLY wish SE had put this on GOG instead. 
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Dec 27, 2012 06:44
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WendigoJohnson posted:It doesn't matter what their written age is, it's the fact that they LOOK like literal children. Yeah man, all asians look 12 years old! /sarcasm 1st AD posted:I really enjoyed playing Xenogears until it became a 10 hour infodump, but the first Xenosaga is a really confusing and frankly upsetting game to play. A bunch of random poo poo happens and it seems to only appeal to massive anime fans or people who were dumb enough to think that it'd be as fun as Xenogears (like me). I love xenosaga but frankly, if you don't like  and/or Old Star Trek episodes (as I do) you'll probably hate it. I however love scifi technobabble and soak that up like a sponge (hate poo poo like firefly venomously) Regardless, 1 is decent but clunky. In terms of story and combat it's better than most rpgs imo. Skip II. namco is loving retarded and was like "well we didn't sell #1 in europe, lets sell it there with #2 but the sales were poor because we were trying to compete at the same time as FFX came out, so that means we gotta make it more ACTIONY!" Then sales of II were poor so they said gently caress it to europe again and tried going back to being more like #1 which they should have goddamn done in the first place. Also at this point they gave up. It was supposed to be six games, not 3. That being said, #3 is the best Xenosaga by far in terms of combat, though the story suffers from them having to shove it all in one game. NikkolasKing posted:Well everyone always complains that JRPG protagonists are too young. Ziggy is over a 100, chaos is some ridiculous age, Jin was in his thirties, I think Jr. was something like around late 20s and then you had Shion who was early 20s. Only MOMo was really young.
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Purple D. Link posted:I bought the PC re-release of FFVII today, but after that I read that after 30 days, the download link expires. I saw something like that and that's pretty much why I've never bought it. Not paying money to play a lazy port of something with no improvements other than 6,000 developer hours of annoying DRM schemes. SE, call me when you get it on Steam or whatever.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Yeah man, all asians look 12 years old! /sarcasm As someone who played only Xenosaga 2 I still have no idea how this happens and I don't want to know
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:As someone who played only Xenosaga 2 I still have no idea how this happens and I don't want to know 2 is really awful. It has an "okay" story but the combat is horrendous. The mech combat in 3 is pretty fun/badass and there's nothing much I can compare to it in the jrpg front. As for the characters, the director really really loves gnosticism. It's a cool premise for games if you ask me. Anyways I just wanted to respond to that post a few pages back but couldn't at the time.
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Dec 27, 2012 07:49
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Isn't it actually dumber like chaos isn't Jesus but his presence is what lets Jesus perform miracles?
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GreenBuckanneer posted:2 is really awful. It has an "okay" story but the combat is horrendous. I just remember seeing a 5 minute fight scene in one of the earliest cutscenes and thinking THIS poo poo IS AWESOME but yeah the story was not the greatest and the battle system falls apart eventually.
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TurnipFritter posted:Isn't it actually dumber like chaos isn't Jesus but his presence is what lets Jesus perform miracles? No, his old name was Yeshua, which is what jews would call Jesus of Nazareth. So yeah, he's Jesus Christ. It was the power of Anima that allowed him to work his magic. It was also because of Anima's power that the crusades happened in the first place. GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Dec 27, 2012 |
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Dec 27, 2012 07:53
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Boten Anna posted:I saw something like that and that's pretty much why I've never bought it. Not paying money to play a lazy port of something with no improvements other than 6,000 developer hours of annoying DRM schemes. Like I said, if I have unlimited activations, I'll keep it, but if not, I'll try to get a refund. Hopefully SE gets their heads out of their asses and puts it on Steam and/or GOG. Purple D. Link fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Dec 27, 2012 |
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Dec 27, 2012 08:04
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I finally stopped being lazy with my FF games and finished 9. Incredibly satisfying, especially having also finished 13 recently as well. It's amazing what a coherent narrative will do for a game. Since there are no other thread for this sort of thing, if I were to buy another PS1 JPRG off of PSN, what should I go for? I have 7 and 9. I have not played 8, Vagrant Story, Xenogears or FF Tactics. Thoughts? Save my money?
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If you want a coherent narrative, I would stay away from Xenogears. Vagrant Story and FF Tactics are good choices.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:No, his old name was Yeshua, which is what jews would call Jesus of Nazareth. So yeah, he's Jesus Christ. It was the power of Anima that allowed him to work his magic. It was also because of Anima's power that the crusades happened in the first place. No, we see him hanging out with a guy who is clearly intended to be historical Jesus with the implication being that chaos the REAL Jesus and the other guy was... something else. A patsy I guess? Xenosaga was so stupid
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ImpAtom posted:Xenosaga was so stupid swmmrmanshen posted:I finally stopped being lazy with my FF games and finished 9. Incredibly satisfying, especially having also finished 13 recently as well. It's amazing what a coherent narrative will do for a game. Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Dec 28, 2012 |
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Dec 28, 2012 18:37
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swmmrmanshen posted:I finally stopped being lazy with my FF games and finished 9. Incredibly satisfying, especially having also finished 13 recently as well. It's amazing what a coherent narrative will do for a game. VS and FF8 are hit-or-miss. That said, if it's "hit" for you, you're gonna be very pleased. I personally like VS a lot.
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I missed out on Xenogears and finally tried to play it again recently but I just could not get into it. I just found myself really uninterested with the whole game, maybe I didn't get far enough? I got to the first 'dungeon' after you exit the city with the mech fighting Also I still heartily recommend FF8. It has a lot of silliness and the battle system can be easily cheesed but I think it's a really fun game. I've actually probably finished it more than 7. (But that might just be the fact I keep restarting 7 every time I play it because I love the first half of that game so much!)
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swmmrmanshen posted:I finally stopped being lazy with my FF games and finished 9. Incredibly satisfying, especially having also finished 13 recently as well. It's amazing what a coherent narrative will do for a game. Skip 8. It's a practice in insulting you for playing it.
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swmmrmanshen posted:I finally stopped being lazy with my FF games and finished 9. Incredibly satisfying, especially having also finished 13 recently as well. It's amazing what a coherent narrative will do for a game. Tactics is great. I'll also throw a vote for Legend of Mana, though that narrative is everything but coherent.
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Final Fantasy Tactics is one of my favorite games of all time, but the PSP version has a much better translation. All the games you listed are some of Square's best, or at least most experimental.
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swmmrmanshen posted:Since there are no other thread for this sort of thing, if I were to buy another PS1 JPRG off of PSN, what should I go for? I have 7 and 9. I have not played 8, Vagrant Story, Xenogears or FF Tactics. Thoughts? Save my money? Tactics is incredible so that's a must have. You can pick up the classics like Vagrant Story, Xenogears, Grandia, Chrono Cross, and of course IX. All of the games have problems(except for IX), but they're all worth playing at least once. You can also try the Suikoden series. I haven't personally played them, but most goons seem to like them quite a bit. Also: Azure_Horizon posted:Skip 8.
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Cardboard Fox posted:Tactics is incredible so that's a must have. You can pick up the classics like Vagrant Story, Xenogears, Grandia, Chrono Cross, and of course IX. All of the games have problems(except for IX), but they're all worth playing at least once. You don't consider the long, awkward pauses for certain enemy attacks to be a problem? It really drags some of the random encounters in that game.
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Azure_Horizon posted:Skip 8. It's a practice in insulting you for playing it. This man is a liar.
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ImpAtom posted:No, we see him hanging out with a guy who is clearly intended to be historical Jesus with the implication being that chaos the REAL Jesus and the other guy was... something else. A patsy I guess? It was supposed to be a Gnostic thing. That particular system of beliefs says something like the spirit of Christ was in different people at different times. Or not. Since Gnostic canon frequently disagrees with itself (intentionally, it is thought). But whatever, KOS-MOS is the only really cool thing to come from Xenosaga.
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Mazed posted:It was supposed to be a Gnostic thing. That particular system of beliefs says something like the spirit of Christ was in different people at different times. I'm aware (considering the enemies of the game are literally called the Gnosis it's hard to miss) but the execution in this particular case was pretty goofy. I really wanted to like Xenosaga but it had so many problems. I'll play loving anything with giant robots in it and probably enjoy it but Xenosaga falls outside that list. 
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I actually did like Xenosaga, but played through fully aware that the whole thing was incredibly loving goofy. Nowadays it's a little easier to appreciate knowing that the same people who made it can pull through and make something legitimately good (Xenoblade). Still, I wouldn't recommend the series to anyone unless their first reaction to anime bullshit is derisive laughter and not irritation.
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