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necrobobsledder posted:Overwatch flank to pin one or more enemies you can't get while you take out others with the rest of your squad. The hard part here is not triggering even more enemies in the process of flanking. I've been trying to abuse that more but sometimes it just doesn't seem to work. Is there some detail I'm missing? Like the "flanker" and "watcher" have to be different squad members? The AI has to see more than one target? And nothing seems to matter when the little bastards will still take long range shots at full cover squaddies and one-shot them.  I think I'm going to try that Implassic mod for a step-up. Deuce fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Mar 9, 2013 |
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Coolguye posted:Which of the like 8 beta programs is the correct one, again? I should really put that information in the OP. 2k_community Password was... skyr@nger if I recall correctly
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Edmond Dantes posted:2k_community It is. Good deal, thanks.
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Deuce posted:I've been trying to abuse that more but sometimes it just doesn't seem to work. Is there some detail I'm missing? Like the "flanker" and "watcher" have to be different squad members? The AI has to see more than one target?
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Teleport bug still works with that beta patch for me. Got it on the first loving map of a new game, too 
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Mar 10, 2013 02:20
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I had that happen to me on my ironman run. Only there weren't any mutons. Just two sectopods and a cyberdisc that decided they wanted to come out and play at once. Along with a squad of floaters.  I was never so glad that I decided rocket launchers were the biggest priority in terms of survival on ironman than I was during that encounter. Having two heavies literally saved my squad. ... most of them, anyway.
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I was on the battle ship, and had just move from the initial staging area, so my whole squad had it's back to it, and a two mutons and a berserker appeared in that spot! There was no way they could have moved there. Oh well, I try to deal with it as best I can with a squad of floaters in front of me. I throw a grenade to blow up their cover, it detonates, they both do their intimidate move and then the UI disappears and it kinda stays like that, with my turn not continuing. First time I've had that one.
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Deuce posted:I've been trying to abuse that more but sometimes it just doesn't seem to work. Is there some detail I'm missing? Like the "flanker" and "watcher" have to be different squad members? The AI has to see more than one target? Your guy on overwatch has to have a flanking shot on the alien (yellow alien icon on the hud), or the alien has to be sitting in the wide open. In addition, that alien can not have a flanking/exposed shot on any of your guys. If you manage those two things (easiest by tossing a grenade to blow up cover, and then overwatching), you can just sit there for as many turns as you want, and it will do absolutely nothing.
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I think I'm absolutely terrible at this game.  I just got to the first terror mission, and had to deploy a single low-ranked support and three rookies (with nobody in the fifth slot) because literally everyone else was injured from something or another. Several countries were at 4 or 5 panic bars (none of which were on the continent I got the terror mission at, of course) despite my having launched five satellites already, I was constantly at next to no money, I never had any idea what to research, and my team got slaughtered by the blade bug things introduced in the terror mission.I restarted after doing the tutorial so I could get a less idiotic base placement and not get several of my guys killed for nothing, and I'd been prioritizing satellites, but apparently that wasn't enough? I'm playing on normal.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I restarted after doing the tutorial so I could get a less idiotic base placement and not get several of my guys killed for nothing, and I'd been prioritizing satellites, but apparently that wasn't enough? I'm playing on normal. Everyone is terrible their first time. Don't worry about it. Just keep playing and you'll get the hang of it. Research what you want, really, but it's good to get laser weapons imo. Two things I wish I'd known back then: Countries only leave at the end of the month, so save your satellites until just before the council report and launch them to anyone on 5 panic, or prioritise money/continent bonuses. Only use half-cover if there's literally no full-cover available.
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eating only apples posted:Two things I wish I'd known back then: Countries only leave at the end of the month, so save your satellites until just before the council report and launch them to anyone on 5 panic, or prioritise money/continent bonuses. Nope, I had some countries leaving the council immediately after beeing on level 5 panic for the first 3rd of the month if I missed/failed a mission in the country/continent.
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wilbur.walsh posted:Nope, I had some countries leaving the council immediately after beeing on level 5 panic for the first 3rd of the month if I missed/failed a mission in the country/continent.
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SeaTard posted:Your guy on overwatch has to have a flanking shot on the alien (yellow alien icon on the hud), or the alien has to be sitting in the wide open. The flanker doesn't have to be the one on overwatch. The alien just has to be know it's flanked/out of cover and is being overwatched, and not be flanking anyone itself. Aliens you're trapping like this will totally shoot at anyone without cover bonuses.
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wilbur.walsh posted:Nope, I had some countries leaving the council immediately after beeing on level 5 panic for the first 3rd of the month if I missed/failed a mission in the country/continent. You are missremembering a terror mission. Failing a terror mission drops the country involved right there.
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Anyone have some general tips for finishing the final mission? I keep getting pasted, probably because of the wrong squad composition (2 assaults, 2 snipers, a heavy and a support) but I don't have a save I can roll back to and change it  I usually make it to the final room with my guys at 1/2 health or so, but get absolutely wrecked once the etherals start mind-controlling all of my guys.
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Use your snipers to annihilate the special Ethereal right off the start.
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revtoiletduck posted:Use your snipers to annihilate the special Ethereal right off the start. I haven't even gotten a shot off on the special - I assumed they were like the normal ethereals that can only take one direct shot/turn. The first time I charged straight across and died horribly. The next two times I tried to get as far as I could along the top right before getting noticed...no dice.
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Hope you put ghost armor on at least 1 guy. Ghost him in there so he can play spotter for your squad-site snipers to pick things off from a distance. (you did take squad-site for both, right?)
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revtoiletduck posted:Use your snipers to annihilate the special Ethereal right off the start. When entering the final room, place everyone near the end of the corridor, but not in the room yet. Get an assault in, shoot. Fire a shredder rocket. Have your double-tap sniper annihilate the uber ethereal.
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Aureon posted:When entering the final room, place everyone near the end of the corridor, but not in the room yet. Ghosted whatever walks in to spot 2x Double-Tap snipers kill boss
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How long can I leave a downed UFO before assaulting it? I'd like to wait 7 days until my Officer School is finished
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Mar 11, 2013 03:59
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It's not gonna last that long, 3-4 max.
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OptimusWang posted:I haven't even gotten a shot off on the special - I assumed they were like the normal ethereals that can only take one direct shot/turn. The first time I charged straight across and died horribly. The next two times I tried to get as far as I could along the top right before getting noticed...no dice.
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The upgraded launcher is pretty nice for that as well, as the Ethreals can't reflect explosion.
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OptimusWang posted:probably because of the wrong squad composition (2 assaults, 2 snipers, a heavy and a support) If you can't hit with your snipers because you didn't pick squadsight, you've been playing the game wrong and might need to change your tactic. Also don't shoot anything but the final boss. Do not bother with anything else.
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Are the tanks, or whatever they're called now, still extremely buggy? I haven't played since the patches started rolling out, but last time I checked tanks were worthless due to being the buggiest things ever.
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SHIVs? I've never had a problem with them. My ironman impossible white whale continues. Decided to skip Slingshot and instead got the overpass council mission. I should've just turned it down. Maybe if I didn't play with randomized everything it'd be easier, but it's a lot more interesting to me when I can't predict funding or stats.
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Anatharon posted:Are the tanks, or whatever they're called now, still extremely buggy? I haven't played since the patches started rolling out, but last time I checked tanks were worthless due to being the buggiest things ever. SHIVs are fine, have been for a while.
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I've had no problems with the SHIVs.
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Well, that's fun. I/I, blew through the first mission no problem. Second abduction mission is the flooded street, and so far, at least one group of sectoids was activated without the little human eyes are on me! cutscene. So, I move from the starting position, see no aliens, overwatch everyone, then move on my second turn. First guy to move gets cut down by overwatch shots from nowhere. Goddamnit. edit: next mission had it too. Is this going to be a thing for the rest of the playthrough? Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Mar 11, 2013 |
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Ravenfood posted:Well, that's fun. I/I, blew through the first mission no problem. Second abduction mission is the flooded street, and so far, at least one group of sectoids was activated without the little human eyes are on me! cutscene. So, I move from the starting position, see no aliens, overwatch everyone, then move on my second turn. First guy to move gets cut down by overwatch shots from nowhere. Goddamnit. I've had that exact same thing happen on that exact same map. Aliens cutting me down with overwatch fire, despite having not encountered an alien yet.
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SeaTard posted:Your guy on overwatch has to have a flanking shot on the alien (yellow alien icon on the hud), or the alien has to be sitting in the wide open. A couple times I'm pretty sure i had that. One should have been the only trooper in sight at all. (It was around a back way I sent a guy for that purpose) Blowing up the cover I hadn't really tried. I blow up cover to make easier shots but it never occurred to me to over watch instead. 
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So, are the spawns for the Slingshot missions totally scripted? Because that really sucks.
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After two death spiral games where I failed to get a UFO in before 20 days to the first Council report, I'm beginning to wonder if the beta tweaked that a bit to make the ton-of-satellites-in-month-one strategy less of a surefire cash cow. I'd be fine if it were, since no strategy in XCOM should be foolproof. I'm wondering if anyone else in the open beta has that problem.
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I wish there was an in-game Xeno-paedia ala Civilization, with tech tree and discovered unit info.
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dud root posted:I wish there was an in-game Xeno-paedia ala Civilization, with tech tree and discovered unit info. Yeah I always loved that in civilization. There's always the research archive
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dud root posted:I wish there was an in-game Xeno-paedia ala Civilization, with tech tree and discovered unit info. I guess it doesn't fit in with the storyline and how new things are discovered about the aliens, but it would be a great option for unlocking on completion.
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Didn't they have basically this in XCOM Apocalypse, which was populated as you discovered stuff in quite a nice way? I remembering being overawed when I started discovering the details on the Alien Life Cycle and the like.
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Ravenfood posted:In order of importance: Do your snipers have squadsight? Do you have anyone in ghost armor? Do your snipers have scanner drone thingies? Do you have enough troops with enough hitpoints to be able to survive a single round of combat? Combine any of the last three questions with the first one. A little tip that is not immediately clear that should probably change your strategy: Once you kill the special ethereal, you win. Ignore everything else. My snipers don't have squad sight, my only guy in ghost armor is a sniper (the other sniper is the volunteer wearing psionic armor), they both have the scanners, and assuming they don't get mind-controlled the two assaults can tank for quite awhile. Everyone else is in titan armor, the heavy doesn't have shredder rockets, and only 1 dude (an assault) is packing grenades.
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OptimusWang posted:My snipers don't have squad sight, my only guy in ghost armor is a sniper (the other sniper is the volunteer wearing psionic armor), they both have the scanners, and assuming they don't get mind-controlled the two assaults can tank for quite awhile. Everyone else is in titan armor, the heavy doesn't have shredder rockets, and only 1 dude (an assault) is packing grenades.  That's... quite a setup there.
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