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JazzFlight posted:Yeah, I just want to post that game again for everyone. Wait, this game seems to use mouse only controls. Which means it will probably easily translate to a phone touch screen, but it would play terrible with a tiny touch pad (or some ridiculous controller mapping scheme).
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WendigoJohnson posted:The best console knockoffs are the ones that resemble other everyday household objects. This makes me wonder if there are android powered vibrators. How exactly would the controls work for playing angry birds?
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Mar 15, 2013 00:32
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DalaranJ posted:Wait, this game seems to use mouse only controls. Which means it will probably easily translate to a phone touch screen, but it would play terrible with a tiny touch pad (or some ridiculous controller mapping scheme). But, but, OYAH! *slap bass solo*
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Mar 15, 2013 00:40
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I've pre-ordered 150 LEON BUDDs which I plan on reselling on Ebay after the inevitable run on the machines. Should I reinvest in Bitcoins?
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Mar 15, 2013 00:44
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Sweet jesus, that keynote speech. I'm only a few minutes in and it's already top shelf comedy. I think my favorite bit is how Josh shames the crowd for not backing the KUSHBRAH, then just lets it rip with actual questions that make Uhrman look dumb as gently caress. Man, my left nut for journalists who would grill politicians even half as hard as this, particularly when they were expecting yet another kid-gloves backslapping session, as I'm assuming Uhrman was.
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Mar 15, 2013 00:44
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NewtGoongrich posted:I've pre-ordered 150 LEON BUDDs which I plan on reselling on Ebay after the inevitable run on the machines. Should I reinvest in Bitcoins? Bitcoins are definitely the better investment.
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Mar 15, 2013 01:13
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NewtGoongrich posted:I've pre-ordered 150 LEON BUDDs which I plan on reselling on Ebay after the inevitable run on the machines. Should I reinvest in Bitcoins? Get those bad boys mining for Bitcoins and you'll recoup your investment just in time to buy some BOOYAH V2.0s and get in on the early wave of Litecoins!
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TheGreatGildersneeze posted:Sweet jesus, that keynote speech. I'm only a few minutes in and it's already top shelf comedy. I think my favorite bit is how Josh shames the crowd for not backing the KUSHBRAH, then just lets it rip with actual questions that make Uhrman look dumb as gently caress. Pretty sure he wasn't even trying to grill her hard, she's just not used to answering real questions.
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Mar 15, 2013 03:33
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Yep, they know what they're doing!quote:As I mentioned in another earlier thread, my game submission was denied, apparently due in part to having android.permission.VIBRATE in the manifest. Presumably (I don't know this for a fact), it is a violation of OUYA's policy, based on this article. The relevant section from the article:
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Mar 15, 2013 04:25
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theflyingorc posted:Yep, they know what they're doing! android.permission.vibrate is one of the standard permissions from aosp. If your quotation is accurate and it's not allowed in AUYO games (his submission wasn't rejected for other reasons), that's almost a breaking change between aosp and AYOU. Even if you have to extend the vibrate functions to deal with multiple controllers, there's no point in blacklisting the permission. Christ, what a shitshow this seems to be.
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Mar 15, 2013 04:54
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boo_radley posted:android.permission.vibrate is one of the standard permissions from aosp. If your quotation is accurate and it's not allowed in AUYO games (his submission wasn't rejected for other reasons), that's almost a breaking change between aosp and AYOU. Have they done this because the OINYBOINGY controllers don't vibrate? Do they vibrate? If not is it because after an hour they'd vibrate themselves to pieces?
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Mar 15, 2013 04:59
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It shouldn't matter. a.p.v. is just a notice that the app can engage the vibrators. It's not coupled to the function that engages them. So you have two options: 1) don't bother with vibrating controllers at all 2) use the default vibrate method for player 1's controller and create extended methods for players 2-4 android phones or tablets get shook like this: code:code:
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Mar 15, 2013 05:18
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Well seeing what the build quality is like, I wouldn't be surprised if the HEYOU controllers just vibrated themselves apart.
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Mar 15, 2013 05:21
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boo_radley posted:that way, you have consistent methods for vibration control that minimize code differences between platforms. Its all kind of moot because, as far as I can tell from this disassembly, the OUYA doesn't even have vibration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hh3Ezg9xf0&t=306s
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Mar 15, 2013 05:43
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Red_Mage posted:Its all kind of moot because, as far as I can tell from this disassembly, the OUYA doesn't even have vibration. huh. Then ouya ought to just noop the call to vibrate and call it a day. The Nexus 7 has no haptics and it doesn't poo poo the bed about vibration calls. Trying to puzzle this just by looking in from the outside is going to drive me insane. 
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Let's look at someone who will make a game because "It's what I wanted to do so since I was 10" he "don't care about profit" and "Now it will not be any easy task, but we do have the dedication and the ability to do it, it's just a matter of determination." So yeah, basically exactly the same qualifications as Zybourne Clock, except he's paying people and he's making a 4-player split screen RPG. (I, of course, try to encourage him in his dumb idea) http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/918/is-this-idea-plausibleis-there-a-market-for-it#latest edit: There are literally 10 different forums for the OUYA. OUYAForum.com is the only one that gets a significant number of posts per day (but still less than this thread). OUYAForums.com is the one Julie Uhrman mentioned. They HAVE to be noticing that nobody cares about their system now. I've read 0 posts of anyone saying "I have put my finalized game on the OUYA store." They're lucky to have 1 news story hit Google News a day. The most active community discussing the OUYA on the internet IS THIS THREAD, and their day to day sales have to be absolutely abysmal. They're still ~300 in Amazon's video game rankings. To compare, Gears of War 3, an 18 month old game, is at #85, and I can't imagine it sells more than a few hundred copies a day. Even if OUYA was selling 300 a day (which I think its safe to estimate that they are not), they'd be only pumping out 9000 a month, also known as "none". Julie knows she's got nothing, but she's SO CERTAIN that their will be great games that everyone cares about and that will fix everything. theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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theflyingorc posted:(I, of course, try to encourage him in his dumb idea) quote:The OUYA can definitely handle 4 player split screen (I can do 4-player Mario Kart on my N64 emulator, for example). That's not how emulators work. That's not how splitscreen would work. I don't even... Also this isn't the biggest discussion of it per say. There is a pretty large NeoGAF thread.
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Mar 15, 2013 06:46
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boo_radley posted:Trying to puzzle this just by looking in from the outside is going to drive me insane. This is why we lash out at things like this. Because it's the only way to break free.
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Mar 15, 2013 07:11
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So is there any information about games that will actually be on the console within the next few months? Have any devs with real working games discussed how they monetized their games for the ouya? I'm interested in how the (trying to) making money part works for ouya games.
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Mar 15, 2013 07:29
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Red_Mage posted:That's not how emulators work. That's not how splitscreen would work. I don't even... Care to share a link? I'm commuting on a train and would love to entertain myself.
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Mar 15, 2013 09:12
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theflyingorc posted:(I, of course, try to encourage him in his dumb idea) This is not you but it's gotta be a troll: quote:I would buy it...but nobody wants to buy and play a game they have seen and played before so use everything original and nothing previously developed
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gschmidl posted:This is not you but it's gotta be a troll: Ouya is such that I couldn't make a clear judgment on that. Poe's law in full effect.
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Red_Mage posted:That's not how emulators work. That's not how splitscreen would work. I don't even... That level of comprehension of coding is so adorable. Like, I can barely even make a Hello World without it crashing and I know he has no idea what he's talking about. "Split screen" is not a system function!
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theflyingorc posted:(I, of course, try to encourage him in his dumb idea) quote:Wow, pessimistic much stolk? To me iit seems wildly crazily pessimistic to think that the OUYA won't even sell 40k units, when a game console that sells really poorly sells around 30 million in its lifetime. Especially considering 60,000 people were convinced to pay real money up front 8 months in advance for something that may never have shipped. If the system was going to be such a gigantic flop as to sell only 40k, it wouldn't be worth anyone's time to develop for.
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theflyingorc posted:Julie knows she's got nothing, but she's SO CERTAIN that their will be great games that everyone cares about and that will fix everything. I was initially hopeful they could deliver a decent standardization about controller inputs but it looks even that is a pretty horrendous failure. Female Ric Flair has to keep up the certainty to keep from getting called out. In politics there is a term sometimes used of drive by media. LEON is getting great press from the drive-by tech media that just wants a quick tech piece without critical journalism because of that we are sitting on a horrendous expectation bubble. They might have a successful kickstarter and LEON 2 if someone else takes the reins after the inevitable failure of LEON 1. This is all playing out exactly as the manufacturing experts said it would on the manufacturing side. I'm not surprised given the manufacturing progress the software is failing as bad. Anyone who ever gets a LEON please practice safe purchasing and use a Virtual Credit Cards if you make any purchases. Edit: Removed useless content in post. Stick100 fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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Red_Mage posted:Its all kind of moot because, as far as I can tell from this disassembly, the OUYA doesn't even have vibration. To be fair, that's probably because of really retarded patents. Even Nintendo and Microsoft got sued hardcore over vibration, I'm pretty sure. They probably realized they'd have to either pay more money than the entire HOOHAH cost just to license vibration technology, or spend just as much developing a new solution, and gave up. It cannot be overstated how dumb the US patent office is.
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A game console that sells poorly sells 30 million units, therefore the OUYA will sell at least 30 million.
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Zaphod42 posted:To be fair, that's probably because of really retarded patents. Even Nintendo and Microsoft got sued hardcore over vibration, I'm pretty sure. They probably realized they'd have to either pay more money than the entire HOOHAH cost just to license vibration technology, or spend just as much developing a new solution, and gave up. The licensing fees were about 80 cents per controller sold, with retroactive payments for controllers sold before the settlement.
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Install Gentoo posted:The licensing fees were about 80 cents per controller sold, with retroactive payments for controllers sold before the settlement. Hey man, they are operating on the budget of the revolution in consoles. You think they can afford to spend 80 cents a controller kow-towing to Immersion just because they had the gall to patent a device for controller rumbling? I think not, better reject every game that even mentions vibration from the app store. The revolution will be on your television, OUYA.
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How much do they sell the ZIZI controller for anyway?
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Stick100 posted:Anyone who ever gets a LEON please practice safe purchasing and use a Virtual Credit Cards if you make any purchases. You will not be able to do so at launch. At launch, you must give them your credit card info to use the store. FrozenVent posted:How much do they sell the ZIZI controller for anyway? Fifty dollars. A lot of people on OUYAForum were talking about how you should "just get an Xbox controller, they are cheaper". Of course, that controller will not have a touchpad and therefore will not support some % of OUYA games. edit: A person gets screwed over by OUYA, Inc: forums.ouya.tv/discussion/618/q-how-many-times-can-team-ouya-drop-the-ball-on-one-competition
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FrozenVent posted:How much do they sell the ZIZI controller for anyway? They sell it for 50 bucks. Yeah. Half the price of the console into a poo poo controller with build quality that rivals PS1 era MadCatz gear.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:They sell it for 50 bucks. Yeah. Half the price of the console into a poo poo controller with build quality that rivals PS1 era MadCatz gear. And, being made with aluminum, is honestly likely to burn your hands if left near a window on a sunny day. edit: What am I saying? It's the STRADIVARIUS OF CONTROLLERS. They said so in their pitch video. Also, the changed the controller many times due to player feedback, just like Stradivarius violins were basically crowdsourced ideas.
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Wait, the controller itself is aluminum? What the hell, that's probably going to get uncomfortable just from sweaty hands and body temperature after awhile.
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01011001 posted:Wait, the controller itself is aluminum? What the hell, that's probably going to get uncomfortable just from sweaty hands and body temperature after awhile.
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01011001 posted:Wait, the controller itself is aluminum? What the hell, that's probably going to get uncomfortable just from sweaty hands and body temperature after awhile. Well they originally planned on the system being aluminum. What actually comes out, who knows. Wouldn't aluminum also make the actual case significantly hotter than it would be if it continues to be plastic, possibly roasting the insides of the console, or were the LEON engineers actually smart with the design of the cooling on it? All I know about aluminum in electronics comes from Macbook Pros turning into toaster ovens during use and those are designed by the best consumer electronics engineers in the world.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:Well they originally planned on the system being aluminum. What actually comes out, who knows. Wouldn't aluminum also make the actual case significantly hotter than it would be if it continues to be plastic, possibly roasting the insides of the console, or were the LEON engineers actually smart with the design of the cooling on it? All I know about aluminum in electronics comes from Macbook Pros turning into toaster ovens during use and those are designed by the best consumer electronics engineers in the world. The inside electronics would actually be marginally cooler in an aluminum case because it would be better at dissipating heat to the outside air or a hand touching it, or whatever you put it on.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:All I know about aluminum in electronics comes from Macbook Pros turning into toaster ovens during use and those are designed by the best consumer electronics engineers in the world. Right, this is part of why I brought that up. If I'm doing anything intensive on mine it's like a jet taking off and gets slightly uncomfortable, and that's not even something you grip.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:Well they originally planned on the system being aluminum. What actually comes out, who knows. Wouldn't aluminum also make the actual case significantly hotter than it would be if it continues to be plastic, possibly roasting the insides of the console, or were the LEON engineers actually smart with the design of the cooling on it? All I know about aluminum in electronics comes from Macbook Pros turning into toaster ovens during use and those are designed by the best consumer electronics engineers in the world. The reason it's so hot is actually because the heat is being transferred out of the inside of it, so it's less likely to overheat and damage the electronics.
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So does anyone know how to rig a LEON BUDD to mine for Bitcoins? I've rented some warehouse space and I'm ready to turn my 150 LEON BUDDs (purchased with fiat "currency") into real money (i.e. Bitcoins).
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