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Install Gentoo posted:They don't require that the donation tiers provide a physical product, or even that donation tiers exist at all. It's not a requirement, but it is a request: kickstarter posted:Creating Rewards
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So everyone starts doing chargebacks against amazon. Amazon dumps kickstarter because of all the chargebacks. Ouya successfully kills kickstarter.
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Apr 18, 2013 18:06
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Madcosby posted:It's not a requirement, but it is a request: And the request is also filled, for example, by having the project offer mp3s of the songs in the example, instead of actually doing a run of CDs and mailing them out.
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Install Gentoo posted:And the request is also filled, for example, by having the project offer mp3s of the songs in the example, instead of actually doing a run of CDs and mailing them out. I agree!
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Apr 18, 2013 18:08
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OatmealRaisin posted:I don't think Kickstarter will ever die out. It's a solid idea. I'm pretty sure the days of multi-million dollar projects will go out with a whimper though, 'cause that poo poo's been unsustainable from day one. See: OUYA. I'm just hoping this is a lesson for the world in the form of "don't loving support projects put up by people with 0 actual experience or plans"
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Saint Darwin posted:I'm just hoping this is a lesson for the world in the form of "don't loving support projects put up by people with 0 actual experience or plans" Risks and challenges: I am literally that dog in the goggles from the "I have no idea what I'm doing" image macro meme.
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Install Gentoo posted:And the request is also filled, for example, by having the project offer mp3s of the songs in the example, instead of actually doing a run of CDs and mailing them out. Right, which is why this makes more sense for non-physical products than physical.
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Apr 18, 2013 18:18
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illiniguy01 posted:So everyone starts doing chargebacks against amazon. Amazon dumps kickstarter because of all the chargebacks. Ouya successfully kills kickstarter. OUYA was a kickstarter to end kickstarter GENIUS!
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OatmealRaisin posted:I doubt anyone's getting sued, both because it's been ages since the transactions cleared and the Kickstarter rules make it clear you're pledging for a gift some ways down the line. Oh I was saying that Amazon the company now has grounds sue OUYA the company (although I doubt they will) because OUYA the company is encouraging chargeback against Amazon in violation of their commercial agreements. Also the credit card vendors should see this encouragement as ground to stop serving OUYA the company in regards to the OUYA application store.
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Stick100 posted:OUYA was a kickstarter to end kickstarter GENIUS! I think I actually like the OUYA now.
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Apr 18, 2013 18:47
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Stick100 posted:Oh I was saying that Amazon the company now has grounds sue OUYA the company (although I doubt they will) because OUYA the company is encouraging chargeback against Amazon in violation of their commercial agreements. Also the credit card vendors should see this encouragement as ground to stop serving OUYA the company in regards to the OUYA application store. Yeah, chargebacks are something you DO NOT WANT as a company. Payment processors will fine the poo poo out of you and then stop working with you entirely. And honestly given their business model of making GBS threads untested amatuer-made games into the Litterbox, I'm sure their storefront is going to see more than its share of chargebacks, anyway. Assuming their policy will be to efuse to give refunds when VISORMAN 2: VISOR HARDER has a game-breaking bug that got through their rigorous approval process or whatever. Which I suspect is likely. Julie treating them as "free refunds" is just hilariously short-sighted.
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Apr 18, 2013 18:52
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Finally dragged an answer out of somebody:quote:"The Little Crane That Could" 0
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Oh, and you can be sure that HUGE SOFTWARE UPDATES are coming, why, in the last 3 weeks, they made the following changes to the API:quote:General
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Is 6% a good conversion rate? I guess that would be like 400,000 purchases or so, right? edit: Looks like a F2P game, how do you even calculate conversions in that case? raditts fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Apr 18, 2013 |
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Apr 18, 2013 19:58
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I'm surprised that all of 129 ORGANGRINDERs have shipped...
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theflyingorc posted:Finally dragged an answer out of somebody: This does not bode well for Flying Car and Barley Break
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Madcosby posted:This does not bode well for Flying Car and Barley Break Nothing ever boded well for Barley Break. It is literally the equivalent of a CS101 class project that you receive a B- on. NOTE FROM T.A: Your functionality is there, but some of your spacing is off and you were asked to go the extra mile with color and added functionality in your OUYA project if you wanted an A+. Put in just a bit more effort and you can easily get an A on the next assignment.
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raditts posted:Is 6% a good conversion rate? I guess that would be like 400,000 purchases or so, right? Assuming he gets sale and download details by platform, I suppose the Crane devs meant that 5%, 6% and 7% of people that try the f2p version buy puchased priced levels. (the game is f2p but you can pay a premium for more levels) So if there's approximately 7 million downloads of Crane, and an average of 6% of those downloads get converted to sales, there's about 420,000 purchases of a one-time $2.89 (taken from the Crane site), for a grand total of approximately $1,213,800 before app store fees. Wow, not bad. I need to get into the game dev business. I'll need some artists, a programmer, and an Ouya, asap.
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A few more things - First, XBMC is still not owned by anyone connected with XBMC. Second, one new game and app announced for OUYA! http://www.totalouya.com/apps-and-games/51413-gameminder/ quote:GAME.minder is the app for gamers. When you hear about a game, just set a RE.minder and GAME.minder makes sure you DON’T FORGET TO PLAY! and the app: http://www.totalouya.com/apps-and-games/51414-league-of-evil/ quote:The world needs your help! Evil scientists worldwide have joined forces forming a "League of Evil"; the only super agent who can stop them is YOU!
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theflyingorc posted:A few more things - Hey now, I had fun playing League of Evil.... on my phone while I was in the bathroom for 2 minutes at a time - it's a moderately popular iOS game. This will probably be the best game on the OUYA ever.
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quote:When you hear about a game, just set a RE.minder and GAME.minder makes sure you DON’T FORGET TO PLAY! This is the saddest loving sentence in the history of the world.
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Zaphod42 posted:
WHY YOU SPYIN' ON ME SON I'M RIGHT HERE. Also yeah, we'll see about that poo poo. I honestly don't really care at this point; I had money to burn, so meh.
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sleepness posted:Hey now, I had fun playing League of Evil.... on my phone while I was in the bathroom for 2 minutes at a time - it's a moderately popular iOS game. This will probably be the best game on the OUYA ever. How would you have felt about the game if it was in your front room as your main focus on your TV? It's the transition from 'quick time waster' to 'full on front room gaming experience' where I fell that the ooooooooyah will always fall short. By design the very best mobile games make poo poo TV games, they just aren't for that purpose
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pliable posted:WHY YOU SPYIN' ON ME SON I'M RIGHT HERE.
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theflyingorc posted:0 sales To be perfectly fair, I'm pretty sure if you were to run a statistical analysis on this it wouldn't fall outside any reasonable margin of error for that 5%-7% conversion rate. That sample size is just so small. Dr Cheeto fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Apr 18, 2013 |
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peter gabriel posted:How would you have felt about the game if it was in your front room as your main focus on your TV? Any of these mobile ports are just pathetic on TV compared to what they're ripping off, which is what you could be playing on your real console instead.
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zylche posted:While you're playing with them can you get some more explicit wording on chargebacks? Sure, what do you suggest I ask, specifically?
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JazzFlight posted:Yeah, League of Evil is a lot of fun on iPhone, but it's because it's essentially "Super Meat Boy-lite with much easier difficulty to make up for touch controls". Yeah, I feel the same way. The only reason League of Evil was fun was because I could play it while taking a poo poo for 2 minutes and forget about it until the next time I happened to be in the bathroom with my phone. There's nothing really about any phone game ever, save maybe my brief addiction with Infinity Blade, that would make me want to sit in front of a TV and dedicate actual segments of time that aren't me taking a dump.
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Nothing says consumer confidence than every post that begins with "I bought one of these" ends with "I had money to burn"
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Madcosby posted:Nothing says consumer confidence than every post that begins with "I bought one of these" ends with "I had money to burn" I still believe the concept is a fantastic idea. But obviously as time went on, and the execution of everything, doubt has settled in. I still believe I'll get my console eventually, but it'll end up as a beautiful paperweight.
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pliable posted:I still believe the concept is a fantastic idea. But obviously as time went on, and the execution of everything, doubt has settled in. I still believe I'll get my console eventually, but it'll end up as a beautiful paperweight. For what little its worth, it will work fine as a XBMC emulator box, it was just overpriced and underpowered for that purpose.
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pliable posted:Sure, what do you suggest I ask, specifically? @juhrman Julie, backers get full refunds on their OUYAs by issuing a chargeback to Kickstarter through their credit card company right?
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pliable posted:I still believe the concept is a fantastic idea. But obviously as time went on, and the execution of everything, doubt has settled in. I still believe I'll get my console eventually, but it'll end up as a beautiful paperweight. I knew the weight at the bottom was there for a reason.
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Red_Mage posted:For what little its worth, it will work fine as a XBMC emulator box, it was just overpriced and underpowered for that purpose. I'm actually pretty stoked for this feature, because my Boxee Box has apparently decided to completely stop playing videos, even after a factory reset (ugh that thing is a piece of poo poo). Tegra 3 should have enough power to play HD content, so woo! zylche posted:I figure this will cover it fine: Done.
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zylche posted:I figure this will cover it fine: Yeah I really hope the people talking about how scummy what Julie said about refunds is saying the same thing on the twitter thing, because that is pretty gosh darn scummy.
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From the GOUDAFORUMS: "Too bad that so few knew about the Ouya, though. But I guess that is to be expected since it hasn't even launched yet. Things will probably look brighter next year or the year after that when Ouya is an established brand." Don't worry guys, once GOUDA is (magically!) popular, it'll be popular!
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zylche posted:I figure this will cover it fine: After all the really shady, stupid, useless things BLOWME has done, this is absolutely the worst. I will never buy one even if it turns out to be the XBMC player of the next decade.
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More shipping error fun! This was linked from the developer forums: https://twitter.com/juhrman/status/324956659455774720 Basically: A bunch of people got shipping emails with the tracking number blank, so they can't track it.
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Cool Matty posted:From the GOUDAFORUMS: "Too bad that so few knew about the Ouya, though. But I guess that is to be expected since it hasn't even launched yet. Things will probably look brighter next year or the year after that when Ouya is an established brand." Don't worry we'll get developers because of all the users, and we'll get users because of all the developers. What could go wrong?
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Aweful Dreams posted:More shipping error fun! This was linked from the developer forums: https://twitter.com/juhrman/status/324956659455774720 quote:Julie Uhrman Can't stop laughing.
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