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Well, he was already physically/mentally abusive and manipulative before Judith was even born, and the showbiz wasn't his idea, it was the wife's.
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Judith Barsi's story is one of the most heartbreaking thing's I've read. For some reason the "yep yep yep!" on her headstone sent me over the edge and i burst into tears.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experimentquote:All were admitted, to 12 different psychiatric hospitals across the United States, including rundown and underfunded public hospitals in rural areas, urban university-run hospitals with excellent reputations, and one expensive private hospital. Though presented with identical symptoms, 7 were diagnosed with schizophrenia at public hospitals, and one with manic-depressive psychosis, a more optimistic diagnosis with better clinical outcomes, at the private hospital. Their stays ranged from 7 to 52 days, and the average was 19 days. All were discharged with a diagnosis of schizophrenia "in remission", which Rosenhan takes as evidence that mental illness is perceived as an irreversible condition creating a lifelong stigma rather than a curable illness.
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All on Black posted:Judith Barsi's story is one of the most heartbreaking thing's I've read. For some reason the "yep yep yep!" on her headstone sent me over the edge and i burst into tears. That part made me really  too but what on earth is the meaning of the other line, "our concrete angel"? That sounds really crude.
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Sagebrush posted:That part made me really That she was strong? v  v
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Basebf555 posted:Showbiz parents are the loving worst. I guess the type of person that would push their kid into that life(and at that age the kid couldn't have done it on their own) is the same type that gets really bitter and jealous of their success instead of just being proud. At least most of them just steal all their kids money, obviously in this case theres most likely mental illness at work as well. I really doubt mental illness had anything to do with it.
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Murder-suicides aren't really things you do while of sound mental health. You can be mentally ill and an abusive shithead at the same time.
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step aside posted:I really doubt mental illness had anything to do with it. Nah, killing your family before offing yourself is a perfectly valid lifestyle choice. 
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I cite this whenever I want to taunt my friend who is studying to get his degree in psychology  (it's also scary as all gently caress and highlights the serious disconnect between theoretical and applied psychology - "you're in a mental hospital OF COURSE you're crazy!")
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Sagebrush posted:That part made me really It's a song, Concrete Angel. It's about a girl who is beaten to death.
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FrozenVent posted:Nah, killing your family before offing yourself is a perfectly valid lifestyle choice. Most of the men who abuse, rape, or murder their families aren't mentally ill. Mental illness is an excuse that's trotted out time and time again by abusers and their defenders, but it's got a lot more to do with male entitlement and socialization than it does mental health.
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Perhaps there are many factors at play when someone decides to murder their family.
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step aside posted:Most of the men who abuse, rape, or murder their families aren't mentally ill. Mental illness is an excuse that's trotted out time and time again by abusers and their defenders, but it's got a lot more to do with male entitlement and socialization than it does mental health. I Killed GBS has a new favorite as of 02:08 on Apr 19, 2013 |
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Here's one that has scared the gently caress out of me ever since I read about it, though it's something that planes do on a regular basis. What do you do when you're piloting a 747 on a tight schedule and nature happens to have strong winds blowing across your runway? A Crosswind Landing, or literally landing sideways and then quickly turning the plane to go straight again. When executed correctly (IE the wind is perfectly constant, measured properly, and the pilot is experienced and knows the particulars of the aircraft) it works fine. If, on the other hand, the wind is gusty, the pilot is overzealous, or any of a number of other things go wrong, your enormous jumbo jet turns into a child's toy in the wind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfB4xyM7tMw
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Aw, no, those are awesome. I used to go and hang out in a park under the approach path to PHX during monsoon season and watch the planes crabbing all over the sky. Pretty crazy to see them turn to face the runway while they're still like four miles south of it and over the next couple of minutes get blown sideways until they were perfectly lined up
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Yeah crosswind landings go perfectly fine 99.999999% of the time. One of the requirements for GA pilots is to specifically practice crosswind.
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Jesus. I've never been afraid of flying as I was riding planes since I was a child, and I even enjoy a bit of turbulence on flights for the fun factor. But if that happened to me, I'm pretty sure I would have poo poo my pants. Did the wingtip touch the runway, or does it just look like that due to distance?
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For all you pansies who are scared of flying, enjoy. No one died in any of these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOx5Knk6S9I My favorite is the one at 2:40
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2:40 also happens to be a Heineken commercial, not an actual landing.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Yeah crosswind landings go perfectly fine 99.999999% of the time. One of the requirements for GA pilots is to specifically practice crosswind. I realize it's a fully mastered technique that all pilots probably have drilled into their heads so much they can do it in their sleep and there's probably even autopilot programs that can do it perfectly in a hurricane now, it's just the idea of "land sideways then quickly turn while hoping you don't get hit by a gust of wind and knocked off course" freaks me out, no matter how routine and safe it is these days. I guess I did hype it a bit too much in my post though 
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Sagebrush posted:For all you pansies who are scared of flying, enjoy. No one died in any of these. drat the number 2 landing is pretty amazing..The way they landed looked almost like a helicopter landing --- but with a commercial airliner.. Anyways some content -- hopefully this hasn't been posted yet: Unprovoked shark attacks in the USA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal,_unprovoked_shark_attacks_in_the_United_States Some choice descriptions: -Tanaka was scuba diving and spearing parrotfish with his partner, Jake Hernandez, at a depth of 40 feet (12 m), about 600 feet (180 m) from the shore. The victim vanished around 9:30 p.m. at Mokapu, near the Marine Corps Air Station, Honolulu, Hawaii. Diving equipment was later found. The next day around 3 p.m., a floating body (which was missing its left arm) was sighted from a helicopter in the waters between Mānana Island and Makai pier. Several large sharks, apparently reacting to the helicopter's presence, proceeded to devour all but the body's torso and legs before it could be retrieved. -Temple was scuba diving with partners Bret Gilliam and Robbie McIlvaine in calm 80 °F (27 °C) water with 150 feet (46 m) of visibility some 300 yards (270 m) from shore. The experienced divers were retrieving research samples from Cane Bay, Saint Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands. At a depth of 210 feet (64 m), they noted two oceanic whitetips circling them. Gilliam and McIlvaine began ascending to the surface first, momentarily decompressing on a reef ledge at 175 feet (53 m) before noticing bubbles rising from Temple's position below. Gilliam descended and saw a 12-foot (3.7 m) whitetip biting Temple's left thigh, and the second larger shark attacking immediately afterward and severing Temple's lower left leg. Gilliam grabbed Temple's shoulder harness and began kicking to the surface, but the sharks pulled the two men deeper to 400 feet (120 m), tearing into Temple's abdomen and pulling him out of Gilliam's arms. Gilliam and McIlvaine successfully surfaced and survived; Temple's body was never recovered. This may be the deepest shark attack on record. - Pamperin was free-diving with a friend, Gerald Lehrer, 30, for abalone at Alligator Head, La Jolla Cove, La Jolla, California. The men were 55 yards (50 m) from shore, diving at a depth of 36–42 feet (11–13 m); the water temperature was 68 °F (20 °C) with 23 feet (7 m) of visibility.[38] Around 5:10 p.m., Lehrer heard Pamperin screaming for help, his thrashing body momentarily upright and waist-high out of the water before submerging. Lehrer dove and spotted a 20–23-foot (6–7 m) shark thrashing Pamperin in its mouth . Lehrer dove several times in a futile effort to scare off the shark before swimming to land. The attack was witnessed by several people onshore. An extensive search by police divers and the Coast Guard failed to recover Pamperin's body; only a single swim fin was found. He was seen being swallowed whole, feet-first. Jesus christ! The water is fine jump on in  
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Creepy stuff, but what exactly is the difference between a provoked and unprovoked shark attack? It has always weirded me out how people would never call someone who went wandering into the jungle and got killed by a tiger a victim of an unprovoked attack, but somehow the ocean is met with this expectation of it being a giant salty swimming pool. Being in the territory of a wild animal that is capable of killing you for food is about as provocative as you can get short of running around and poking grizzly bears with sticks for fun. Also that first picture is horrifying.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Creepy stuff, but what exactly is the difference between a provoked and unprovoked shark attack? It has always weirded me out how people would never call someone who went wandering into the jungle and got killed by a tiger a victim of an unprovoked attack, but somehow the ocean is met with this expectation of it being a giant salty swimming pool. Being in the territory of a wild animal that is capable of killing you for food is about as provocative as you can get short of running around and poking grizzly bears with sticks for fun. You can 'provoke' a shard attack by having an open cut, chumming the water or generally acting like a seal. In an unprovoked attack even something as large as a great white can pretty much materialize out of nowhere and take a chunk out of you. Hell, you don't even have to be at sea, you can be inland in brackish or even fresh water rivers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Shore_shark_attacks_of_1916 wikipedia posted:The next two attacks took place in Matawan Creek near the town of Matawan on Wednesday, July 12. Located 30 miles (48 km) north of Spring Lake and 16 miles (26 km) inland, Matawan resembled a Midwestern town rather than an Atlantic beach resort.[4] Matawan's location made it an unlikely site for shark attacks. When Thomas Cottrell, a sea captain and Matawan resident, spotted an 8 ft (2.40m) long shark in the creek, the town dismissed him.[5] Around 2:00 p.m. local boys, including epileptic[6] Lester Stillwell, 11, were playing in the creek at an area called the Wyckoff dock when they saw what appeared to be an "old black weather-beaten board or a weathered log." A dorsal fin appeared in the water and the boys realized it was a shark. Before Stillwell could climb from the creek, the shark attacked him and pulled him underwater.[7] and more recently http://education.nationalgeographic.com/education/media/river-shark-attacks/?ar_a=1
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Oh Matawan. How quickly people here forget that there's quite possibly loving sharks in the rivers. And it's only getting weirder as the water warms up. Come to New Jersey, you might get eaten by a loving shark! Please come back Matawan Maneater. We're serving Italian.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_microbiome Knowing about how your insides, especially your guts, are basically an entire micro-ecosystem has always fascinated and unnerved me, partially because I have loving staphylococcus in my guts, but also because all it takes is a bad flu to purge you out and gently caress up your digestion for years afterwards. I know a girl who was given harsh antibiotics as a small child, and she has all sorts of digestion problems now because of it. Political Whores has a new favorite as of 06:47 on Apr 19, 2013 |
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Cordyceps Headache posted:I know a girl who was given harsh antibiotics as a small child, and she has all sorts of digestions problems now because of it. Then here's another somewhat unsettling Wikipedia page about something that could possibly help her out a lot: a poop transplant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy
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Sagebrush posted:Then here's another somewhat unsettling Wikipedia page about something that could possibly help her out a lot: a poop transplant. And a great comic all about it! 
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Well, I do, but only because I'm finishing a grad course specifically on the subject of gut microbes. Apparently, Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium are gods among microbes and if you don't have these by the time you're a month old you're pretty much hosed. A classmate-friend of mine just had her gallbladder removed so of course I offered to donate poop if her antibiotics got all uppity. They turn it into a slurry mix and run it through a tube from your nose all the way down to your duodenum so the good bacteria can colonize the system and use up all available space and resources before the bad ones get in. It's kinda like planting a thick lawn so dandelions can't take root, except in this case the dandelions are Clostridium difficile.
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Tempest815 posted:Oh Matawan. How quickly people here forget that there's quite possibly loving sharks in the rivers. And it's only getting weirder as the water warms up. Come to New Jersey, you might get eaten by a loving shark! Bull sharks are more than capable of surviving in and traveling pretty far up rivers. It was probably a bull that was the Matawan Maneater. And they probably are most likely heading up river into Jersey. I recall one of the episodes of River Monsters had Jeremy Wade in NJ trying to hook some sharks. I don't remember if he caught any adults there, but I'm pretty sure he caught a young one. Which means they're happy enough to multiply there.
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TunaSpleen posted:Well, I do, but only because I'm finishing a grad course specifically on the subject of gut microbes. Apparently, Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium are gods among microbes and if you don't have these by the time you're a month old you're pretty much hosed. A classmate-friend of mine just had her gallbladder removed so of course I offered to donate poop if her antibiotics got all uppity. They turn it into a slurry mix and run it through a tube from your nose all the way down to your duodenum so the good bacteria can colonize the system and use up all available space and resources before the bad ones get in. It's kinda like planting a thick lawn so dandelions can't take root, except in this case the dandelions are Clostridium difficile. Will you still be able to remain friends after you pump your poo poo through her nose?
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Call Now posted:Will you still be able to remain friends after you pump your poo poo through her nose? In Japan, that's like getting married.
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Detective Thompson posted:Bull sharks are more than capable of surviving in and traveling pretty far up rivers. It was probably a bull that was the Matawan Maneater. And they probably are most likely heading up river into Jersey. I recall one of the episodes of River Monsters had Jeremy Wade in NJ trying to hook some sharks. I don't remember if he caught any adults there, but I'm pretty sure he caught a young one. Which means they're happy enough to multiply there. We've had more than our fair share of Bull Shark attacks in brackish/fresh water here in Australia, especially on the Gold Coast. Everyone knows not to swim in the canals, but you still get the odd drunk idiot who thinks its a great idea to swim across at night. Jeremy Wade did some fishing at the mouth of the Brisbane river in an effort to catch one, and it still scares me that I was water skiing about 15km upstream from the spot he was at a few years ago, yet downstream from the spot where the horse was reportedly attacked. yitsel has a new favorite as of 14:36 on Apr 19, 2013 |
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Detective Thompson posted:Bull sharks are more than capable of surviving in and traveling pretty far up rivers. It was probably a bull that was the Matawan Maneater. And they probably are most likely heading up river into Jersey. I recall one of the episodes of River Monsters had Jeremy Wade in NJ trying to hook some sharks. I don't remember if he caught any adults there, but I'm pretty sure he caught a young one. Which means they're happy enough to multiply there. Yeah, our rivers are basically all salt too, so you can get rays/dogfish while fishing on the Navesink and Shrewsbury rivers if you're close enough to the ocean. Matawan was most definitely a Bull but we're seeing even weirder poo poo now. A few summers ago people were catching/seeing Lionfish off Sandy Hook, almost in NYC harbor. I'm not sure if they're invasive now but I remember them being there.
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:And a great comic all about it! This is Three Word Phrase by the way. Cool cats cite comics.
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Not that scary for humans, but the beetle genus Epomis is a good example of nature's sick sense of humour:Wikipedia posted:Epomis is a genus of beetle. The larvae of this genus are notable for being obligate role reversal predators. Amphibians such as frogs are normally predators of beetles, however Epomis larvae feed exclusively on frogs and other would-be predators. Epomis larvae have been observed to lure predators by making prey-like movements, then evade the predator's attack and disable the predator, often with a bite to the throat or underside, otherwise with a paralysing incision to the back. It is theorised that adult Epomis beetles may also feed on predator species. Scientists speculate that Epomis evolved this behaviour as an aggressive evasion tactic in response to predation by amphibians and the success of this tactic led to Epomis becoming an obligate predator itself. Worse, there is a pretty  video of a tree frog basically getting torn apart and eaten by one of these while still alive.
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Call Now posted:Will you still be able to remain friends after you pump your poo poo through her nose? Fortunately she's recovering well so it looks like my services as a fecal transplant donor won't be necessary. I didn't want to be Japanese Married anyways. Ugh. The tube would be the tentacle in the relationship. While I'm sharing gross microbiome facts, this study indicates that morbidly obese people can possess the bacteria Selenomonas, which is commonly found in the stomachs of cows. I would assume that this bacterium is especially capable of extracting energy from a low-nutrient diet, making it beneficial to both grass grazers and people who eat family size bags of Funyuns from their mobility scooter before they've reached the cash register.
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Cordyceps Headache posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_microbiome My nephew had contract some terrible stomach infection when he was 14 months old, antibiotics he took completely stripped his gut and left him completely unable to digest diary for years. That kid loved cheese and yoghurt and would sneak those things, so we'd would be left with stinky surprises every now and again.
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Thoughtless posted:On the other hand, if you read up enough about sleep paralysis, it becomes a rather pleasant experience since you know what's happening, and instead of feeling like lead you feel very floaty and may even feel like you're outside your body. Yeah, no. This is one of those things that's different for everybody. I get it from time to time, usually with auditory hallucinations, rarely with visual ones, always with powerful, utterly convincing sense of malevolent presence. That last one is one of the more common experiences that comes with sleep paralysis. It is absolutely not just "oh god I can't move what's going on." A few months ago I had one where a shadow detached itself from the wall, took on human form, and proceeded to walk towards me doing that Silent Hill head twitch thing. If I saw this in a movie I would roll my eyes, it was like slenderman or something. When it was happening, though, it completely bypassed the rational part of my brain, like dreams do. I knew I was experiencing sleep paralysis and that I'd be able to move again soon but my mind just couldn't connect that to what I was seeing. Brains are weeeeeird.
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