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BigFatFlyingBloke posted:Saron if you're playing VS.
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Croccers posted:Yeah, playing as VS. Anything else? The Saron does everything well so maybe PPA or some AA if you have money to burn?
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May 28, 2013 17:33
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Urit posted:And I keep telling you I'm happy to, but I want a couple of other goons to play with if we're gonna do this - I don't want to just make an empty outfit for 2 people that never log on. I'd love to get some Space Goon Hitler going, though. Roxxor is my IGN. I've been trying to contact you in-game but I never seem to get a hold of you. My TR guy is "EmperorOfFarts"
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May 28, 2013 17:36
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Fuzz posted:They need to just change the Mattock into a true rail gun that has a more precise reticle and fires big metal spikes at high speed out to 50+ meters. I know slugs sort of already do this, but they need to be faster, go further, have less drop, have a better reticle, and be the default so you don't need to drop 1000 certs to get there. Just give NC a Blueshift/Mercy analog and give VS and TR something on par with Hacksaws or Mattocks. I don't like your idea too much because it sounds like something that would kill in 2 shots, and I'm not particularly fond of the idea of being sniped by MAXes.
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May 28, 2013 17:40
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Bitter Mushroom posted:Really aircraft are the greatest threats to tanks in my experience. You can reasonably do something about turrets or bazooka troops sneaking up on you, but a rocket attack from a km up is hard to predict and react to. It's one of the reasons I prefer tanks on amerish, at least until I unlock the vanguard shield. You can always hide the vehicles pretty well under trees. Yeah. Unfortunately, it's pretty much an unavoidable situation in games like this if you want aircraft to actually be viable for anything at all. You're usually okay if you're in a big convoy with a bunch of AA or if your side is coordinated enough to provide air cover, but if you're by yourself in a tank you're basically a sitting duck for any ESF driver with a pulse. Even in a group you might just end up being that unlucky dude that gets blown away before the liberator/ESF gets shot down.
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May 28, 2013 17:49
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go3 posted:I mean really it doesn't take much theorycrafting to figure out how the close in, heavy hitting faction should deal with a bunch of armor compromised disco death machines. But hey by all means keep trying to fight a dozen ZOE MAXes on the open plain. As for MAX stuff, just make Mattocks come with slugs and a reticle to match.
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May 28, 2013 17:56
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Since there's a lot of (delicious) complaining about the NC Max being garbage, I managed to solo one yesterday. I was proud of myself. NC Maxes melt me with sub-ping TTKs all the time, so as far as I'm concerned they can stuff their complaints about not being awesome at everything and just take being an absolute death zone for infantry within CQC.
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May 28, 2013 18:06
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:Just give NC a Blueshift/Mercy analog and give VS and TR something on par with Hacksaws or Mattocks. They're doing that once they release NS flamethrowers. No word on those longer-ranged NC options, though.
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May 28, 2013 18:08
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LuiCypher posted:They're doing that once they release NS flamethrowers. Hahaha really? I wonder how those are going to work. I imagine the words "causes shittons of lag" are involved.
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May 28, 2013 18:11
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:No idea what you're talking about. The only thing we have that qualifies as "close in, heavy hitting" is our MAXes which ZOEs run circles around and would be stupid to get near us anyways. Hmm sounds like a deterrent to me
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May 28, 2013 18:11
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LuiCypher posted:They're doing that once they release NS flamethrowers. The things that were, once again, removed from the test server? Wasn't their functional range closer to 3 meters than 8-10? Edit: Also wasn't their DPS something like 300 per arm? I font put that on par with Hacksaws. Mr.Unique-Name fucked around with this message at 18:17 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 18:14
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Away all Goats posted:Hahaha really? I wonder how those are going to work. I imagine the words "causes shittons of lag" are involved. Flamethrower and rocklet rifle was my favorite loadout for meat grinding in PS1.
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May 28, 2013 18:15
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psivamp posted:Since there's a lot of (delicious) complaining about the NC Max being garbage, I managed to solo one yesterday. I was proud of myself. NC Maxes melt me with sub-ping TTKs all the time, so as far as I'm concerned they can stuff their complaints about not being awesome at everything and just take being an absolute death zone for infantry within CQC. Funny story: the same thing happens with a ZOE MAX with Nebulas... or even just Blueshifts, who needs range? Best part is that you will barely see them coming since they'll zip into the room, lay waste to you and your two buddies, then zip out before the grenade/C4 even goes off! Yay! TR are the only ones that can truly complain about CQC murder, because they can't pull it off without their cumbersome locking down. Fuzz fucked around with this message at 18:20 on May 28, 2013 |
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go3 posted:Hmm sounds like a deterrent to me I bet the grass is such an amazing shade of green on your side of the fence.
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May 28, 2013 18:18
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Fuzz posted:TR are the only ones that can truly complain about CQC murder, because they can't pull it off without their cumbersome locking down.
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May 28, 2013 18:46
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Bitter Mushroom posted:Give NC tanks a stabilizer for firing on the move. Can I have one of those for my Lightning? I want to be that shithead tonk you can't touch in the Indar deserts. Also, flamethrowers with ZOE were the most hilarious things in the test server. But lockdown didn't affect them one bit 
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May 28, 2013 18:55
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Sorry nc dudes, you're just gonna have to suck it up for a while. Let's just consider this pay back for the months that your max was by far the most op max in the game. :iamafag:
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May 28, 2013 19:09
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NC MAX definitely needs a buff the shield is utter poo poo and breaks new ground in being useless. Actually I can't get a kill to save my life as NC using anything other than Blitz, Phoenix or Vanguard. People praise the Gauss SAW a lot but give me a SVA-88 over the saw any day. Bought the Enforcer for the Vanguard this morning and that thing is death to any vehicle in its radius. Too bad pubbies are still too dumb to gun for a Vanguard. Also holy poo poo Matherson NC does not believe in AA or something. I was literally the only burster max for the entire faction during this alert everywhere I went. As a result they kept getting raped by Scythes.
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May 28, 2013 19:13
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Yeah, it's weird; I'm often one of the few people who pull Skyguards or Burster MAX during any fight. Not that I really complain; all the sweet assist XP is generally mine for the taking. Getting dual extended mags on my Burster arms was one of the best investments I've ever made. I'm warming up to the shield, but something about it just isn't right. I'm taking damage from the front while the shield is up in many cases, and it sometimes causes my AI weapons to deal 0 damage after I bring it down. It's very frustrating, to say the least :/
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May 28, 2013 19:31
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May 28, 2013 19:33
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I'll say this, the aegis shield looks really cool in game. It's easy enough to light assault over and shoot them in the back, but SOE really knows how to make some cool looking stuff. Like my retracted crowning helmet and Palm camo.
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May 28, 2013 19:36
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I kinda like the PPA more than the Saron.
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May 28, 2013 19:42
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DoctorStrangelove posted:I kinda like the PPA more than the Saron. What's it feel like to be insane?
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May 28, 2013 19:44
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So am I like the only person here playing TR on Waterson? I think there was supposedly once a goon outfit here but I'm pretty sure there isn't anymore. I like the red team. Chainguns are rad. I'm hesitant to switch to another faction or server since I've got all these certs on my Waterson TR dude! Though at least I would still have weapons unlocked on a new character, anyway. Also I managed to make a few of my friends create TR characters on Waterson, but they hardly ever play. Not that I play all that much either, I'm only battlerank 35.
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May 28, 2013 19:51
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novaSphere posted:I'm warming up to the shield, but something about it just isn't right. I'm taking damage from the front while the shield is up in many cases, and it sometimes causes my AI weapons to deal 0 damage after I bring it down. It's very frustrating, to say the least :/ My guess is that the game is failing to recognize the state change from shielded to armed weapons, so you're in a moment where the game thinks your weapons are still disarmed, probably due to lag. As for taking full damage head on, I'd guess it happens when you are already under fire and the lag compensation is rewinding damage dealt to you by other clients who, to them, were firing at an unshielded max for a moment. Part of the ZOE max's strength is from lag comp messing up its position when it ADADA's. I wish there was some way to actually see the hitboxes in action for the shield, ZOE, and corner-bouncing infantry!
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DoctorStrangelove posted:I kinda like the PPA more than the Saron. It's just so much more satisfying to melt infantry, isn't it? 
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May 28, 2013 19:52
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I haven't really gotten into planetside 2, had a BR20 or whatever on PS1 though. Is PS2 pay to win at all? I haven't even gotten close to unlocking anything and I am already like BR9 or so.
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May 28, 2013 19:55
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DoctorStrangelove posted:I kinda like the PPA more than the Saron. Both are really fun and shine in different engagement types. For locking down areas and spraying masses of infantry, the PPA is a total treat. Also great for shooting rear end in a top hat Light Assaults coming to C4 you, tagging sunderers and lightnings for assist XP, and wrecking ATVs. For being able to do anti infantry duty and also do well against vehicles, the Saron is a great choice. Both are nice basically depending on if you want your secondary to be mostly AI focused with some vehicle options, or useful for both but (depending on the fight) sometimes less awesome against infantry. Stealthgerbil posted:I haven't really gotten into planetside 2, had a BR20 or whatever on PS1 though. Is PS2 pay to win at all? I haven't even gotten close to unlocking anything and I am already like BR9 or so. Giggily described PS2 as Pay to Fun and I think that's very accurate. You start out being able to be effective in most roles, but if you want to have fun options in situations, paying gets you there a lot faster. Otherwise you can absolutely get everything you want just by playing, except for cosmetic stuff.
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HJE-Cobra posted:So am I like the only person here playing TR on Waterson? I think there was supposedly once a goon outfit here but I'm pretty sure there isn't anymore. I just saw a bunch of TR guys in "Goon Squad 2013" on Waterson. Wondering if they saw me too, name's Transient. The only guy who's name I remember was "WafflyWaffle". Maybe try sending him a message.
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Operation Save The New Conglomerate Tryiing to win as NC is like to try to win a chess game where you play with peons, and the enemy play with bishops Tryiing to win with the Reaver agains other ESF is like playing with the Rook against a Queen. Our problem is the mobility is a much better gimmick than "shotguns!". The peon has a shotgun, but is beaten again and again by the vortex powered bishop. What the NC really needs to be a viable factions is a new gimmick that is better than "shotguns!". Since we are not going to get anything mayor or game changing, I propose some type of health regen and deployable shields: grenade shields!, deployable shield dome! health station!,.. make the NC faction have lots of shields that render it inmune to other faction gimmick temporally, make the shield gimmick have a health regen. Then we can have something very interesting. It will be more fun for the NC, but it will also be more fun for the other factions, because the NC will be a more interesting enemy to attack!. Tei fucked around with this message at 20:04 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 19:59
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Tei posted:Operation Save The New Conglomerate Lets get real creative...more shotguns!!
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Stealthgerbil posted:I haven't really gotten into planetside 2, had a BR20 or whatever on PS1 though. Is PS2 pay to win at all? I haven't even gotten close to unlocking anything and I am already like BR9 or so. Other people have said it, but PS2 is about the lowest you can get on the pay to win totem. It can sure take a while to be a fully free player and get a new full price weapon, but unlike most F2P games there is no earning cap on your "free" income. That is, while many games limit your income based on match time or something like that (looking at you Tribes, WoT and Hawken), in PS2 if you are good at shooting dudes you will make certs as fast as you can find people to shoot. Or alternately as fast as you can find people to heal or resupply. If you are truly focussed on not spending any money, I would stick to defaults and upgrade your class skills, and then perhaps pick up one of the cheap alternate weapons (some in the 250 cert bracket are really good) if they tickle your fancy.
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international owl day posted:Lets get real creative...more shotguns!! This game is severely lacking in the double barreled shotgun department.
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May 28, 2013 20:11
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international owl day posted:Lets get real creative...more shotguns!! Give NC swords and flamethrowers, that'll add more variety, I'm sure.
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May 28, 2013 20:11
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I still want more melee weapons for MAXes. VS get lightsabers, NC get thunder hammers, TR get chainswords or something.
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May 28, 2013 20:16
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Away all Goats posted:This game is severely lacking in the double barreled shotgun department. Well there're pump actions that shoot 10/11 pellets.
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May 28, 2013 20:17
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Roadmap updates!
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May 28, 2013 20:18
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coffeetable posted:Roadmap updates! Of course, after I made a new character on Mattherson. Actually, I may just go back to Connery. The pop numbers have actually evened out on the server, and I kind of prefer playing there even if I'm not currently in an outfit. I can just try to join Future Crew or something.
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:I still want more melee weapons for MAXes. Let's just admit the truth: MAXes are just man-sized anime death robots. We should give them anime death robot weapons as close-quarters options. Give the NC a broadsword to go with their shield, give the VS a laser katana or something, TR would be fine with big chainsaws.
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