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Zero III's voice actor is enjoying the poo poo out of her job. If Ten, Luna, and Alice are all disinclined to betrayal in round one, that implies that whatever you pick you'll have at least four AB games before you can get yourself killed. It makes a certain amount of sense, everyone (but Sigma this one time) being more willing to potentially harm one person over potentially harming two people. Or at least more willing to take the responsibility for harming someone if they have a partner backing them up. The next few updates promise to be delightfully awkward.
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Wait, that was a gif? Stupid Chrome. And yeah they don't change.
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Nidoking posted:I didn't see an answer to this in the thread - K is the chemical symbol for the element Potassium, probably because of an alternate name similar to Kalium. It's no more sensible than W for Tungsten (Wolfram). Kalium was a Latin (really Neo-Latin) word taken from "alkali," and therefore ultimately taken from an Arabic word, I believe having something to do with ashes. Potassium is taken from "potash," which is a literal translation of a German word for an old process of obtaining potassium compounds from plant ashes by soaking them in water in a pot - ergo, pot ash or potash. As for Tungsten, I have no clue where the name came from, but the W(olfram) part came from Peter Woulfe, who discovered it. 
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Zack Ater posted:As for Tungsten, I have no clue where the name came from, but the W(olfram) part came from Peter Woulfe, who discovered it. Tung sten means "heavy stone" in swedish, and it's a refernce to its high density.
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Jun 4, 2013 00:30
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Endorph posted:No, I got that from the .gif, I mean will they be the same reaction shots next time we go to the polls? That would be telling.  Spoilers, man. Jesus christ.
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Jun 4, 2013 00:45
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I'll do the game theory thing like tomorrow. But yeah, those results are shocking. Especially Clover betraying Alice. Unless, of course, it was K... but Clover would still be in there.
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Jun 4, 2013 01:00
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I think we're overlooking the biggest part of the update. Phi says "Maybe it's different this time." That makes me think that either time travel shenanigans are happening or Phi is accessing the morphogenic fields from the future from herself. THat would explain why she knows more than she should, e.g. Sigma's name and the whole reaching zero BP means death.
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Jun 4, 2013 01:04
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Fedule posted:
Hmmm... the first game's time magic was someone sending and receiving psychic messages to/from the future. Maybe Phi is afflicted with a different kind of time magic - some kind of loop, repeating the same day over and over again, like that one movie with Bill Murray. What was it called again?
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Jun 4, 2013 01:18
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Hmmm... the first game's time magic was someone sending and receiving psychic messages to/from the future. Maybe Phi is afflicted with a different kind of time magic - some kind of loop, repeating the same day over and over again, like that one movie with Bill Murray. What was it called again? Groundhog Day?
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Jun 4, 2013 01:24
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Echo'ing the love for "Yo, wassup! Siggyyyyy! Phidoooooooooo!" It really is my favorite part of the entire game. So, so so so great.
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Jun 4, 2013 01:25
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Hmmm... the first game's time magic was someone sending and receiving psychic messages to/from the future. Maybe Phi is afflicted with a different kind of time magic - some kind of loop, repeating the same day over and over again, like that one movie with Bill Murray. What was it called again? Groundhog day. EDIT: Beaten Anyway, I don't think the results of this AB game were too shocking. Both Dio and K would be able to easily overpower their respective partners, and K appears to act somewhat logically whereas Dio is in all likelihood a complete rear end in a top hat.
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Jun 4, 2013 01:26
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Hmmm... the first game's time magic was someone sending and receiving psychic messages to/from the future. Maybe Phi is afflicted with a different kind of time magic - some kind of loop, repeating the same day over and over again, like that one movie with Bill Murray. What was it called again? On its own "this time" could just mean she's played the game before, but combined with her knowing things that she has no way of knowing it seems like time shenanigans are a good explanation.
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Jun 4, 2013 02:03
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curiousCat posted:I'll do the game theory thing like tomorrow. If K really wants to vote betray, do you honestly think Clover can stop him?
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whitehelm posted:If K really wants to vote betray, do you honestly think Clover can stop him?  VVV: Thank you for this mental image 
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Jun 4, 2013 02:15
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Pierzak posted:In normal-mode or psycho-mode?
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Pierzak posted:In normal-mode or psycho-mode? I assume K's armor can protect against axe strikes.
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Jun 4, 2013 02:17
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The "Stupid Jerkface" outcome strikes again! I love how the game is set up for you to awkwardly stare at the person you just betrayed/look into the eyes of the person you just murdered. Zero III is a wonderful little sadist. And, I suppose Zero Sr./Zero II(?) is as well.
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Jun 4, 2013 02:36
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:People complain about the doors and the dot moving around, but for me the worst is I am in the category of people who don't like hearing it everytime. How could anyone want to betray Luna. She seems so nice and quiet.
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Jun 4, 2013 04:19
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mateo360 posted:How could anyone want to betray Luna. She seems so nice and quiet. You know who else was nice and quiet and ended up being the mastermind who threw nine other person into a little murder game for a stupid time loop's sake?
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Jun 4, 2013 04:37
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Jeek posted:You know who else was nice and quiet and ended up being the mastermind who throw nine other person into a little murder game for a stupid time loop's sake? By what metric is anyone in 999 quiet?
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Jun 4, 2013 04:41
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Jeek posted:You know who else was nice and quiet and ended up being the mastermind who throw nine other person into a little murder game for a stupid time loop's sake? On the other hand, the loudest, rudest person (Lotus) turned out to be the most innocent. ...Guys, I think Dio is our best ally here.
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edit: I'm illiterate and dumb 
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Jun 4, 2013 04:46
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Color Printer posted:She was really only ever quiet when she thought her brother had died from internal explosions. Other than that she was as vocal as most of the others. Wrong character.
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Jun 4, 2013 04:47
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Color Printer posted:She was really only ever quiet when she thought her brother had died from internal explosions. Other than that she was as vocal as most of the others. He was talking about June.
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Jun 4, 2013 04:47
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Color Printer posted:She was really only ever quiet when she thought her brother had died from internal explosions. Other than that she was as vocal as most of the others. Clover was the mastermind of nothing. He's talking about Akane. edit: quick, everyone correct him all at once
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Jun 4, 2013 04:47
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Hahahahahaha I'm apparently completely illiterate  Either way I'm definitely sure they wouldn't pull the same shtick twice. Unless....they know I'm going to think that... 
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Jun 4, 2013 04:49
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I'm glad someone who constantly updates their threads is playing this. Saves me the money of buying a 3DS or a Vita. I take it Dio was likely to have thrown Tenmyouji under the bus, regardless of what Quark said, but I'm surprised with Alice. I wonder what the reasoning was for it, considering Alice and Clover seem cool, and K didn't really seem the type to have done it.
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Maybe Tenmoyouji has a really huge estate and quark wants a piece of that sweet, sweet inheritance earlier.
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Zyla posted:Maybe Tenmoyouji has a really huge estate and quark wants a piece of that sweet, sweet inheritance earlier. A summer home with a pool is nicer than a root beer float.
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Jun 4, 2013 05:57
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I forgot how  this game can get!
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Re: Prisoner's dilemma. Maybe the one that was thrown at me in class wasn't the true classic. The one I did in class was the kind where "Work together to get ahead, split up to fail." sort of thing. As expected we were supposed to talk to our "fellow prisoners" and discuss things. I personally was being an rear end and threw in the logical debate that as "prisoners" we would be more likely to use actual physical threats to keep fellow inmates in line. Sort of like the code of silence among criminals to avoid snitching with the penalty being a shanking from the offended prisoner as practical revenge against the squealer. That said I can see that some elements from the previous game has obviously jumped into the current game.
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Kinfolk910 posted:Re: Prisoner's dilemma. I think the original dilemma is something along the lines of: Criminal A and Criminal B are arrested and put into separate rooms. A is told that he is going to be in jail for a year if he doesn't confess, but if he gives evidence on B, then he will go free. B, meanwhile, will have four years. But if they both confess, they get two years. B is then told the same thing. So, the question is, do you trust the other prisoner enough to not rat you out and increase your jail time? Or do you both trying to rat each other out and cause your sentence to double? Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Jun 4, 2013 |
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Jun 4, 2013 07:45
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:So, the question is, do you trust the other prisoner enough to not rat you out and increase your jail time? Or do you both trying to rat each other out and cause your sentence to double? Kinfolk's argument still holds though. With both being criminals, the choice is actually between two years of jail time and getting shanked after four years.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:A is told that he is going to be in jail for a year if he doesn't confess, but if he gives evidence on B, then he will go free. B, meanwhile, will have four years. But if they both confess, they get two years. This is more or less right, but it seems like you're using 'confess' and 'give evidence on' interchangeably, which is a bit confusing. Each prisoner is given the option to stay quiet or testify against the other. The possibilities are: A stays quiet, B stays quiet: small penalty for both (one year) A testifies, B stays quiet: no penalty for A (goes free), large penalty for B (three years) A stays quiet, B testifies: large penalty for A (three years), no penalty for B (goes free) A testifies, B testifies: medium penalty for both (two years) Overall, the best outcome is if both stay quiet and take the small penalty. However, betraying will always result in a better outcome for the betrayer than staying quiet would: if your opponent stays quiet, you go free rather than getting one year; if your opponent testifies, you get two years rather than three. So it's likely that both will testify, meaning that both are worse off than they would have been if they'd both stayed quiet.
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Rith posted:This is more or less right, but it seems like you're using 'confess' and 'give evidence on' interchangeably, which is a bit confusing. Each prisoner is given the option to stay quiet or testify against the other. The possibilities are: Took me about 2 weeks after playing VLR to realize that the AB game is a version of the prisoner's dilemma and that I learned how to use it in an economic environment during my Microeconomics class in college. poo poo's weird.
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Well poo poo. Is it possible for us to stay with Luna for the rest of the game? She's the only one we can trust to not betray us in the AB game. On an unrelated note: Zero III is a rabbit, right? What girl followed the rabbit into Wonderland? Alice. What do rabbits eat? Clover. I think this particular Nonary game is targeted at them.
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Rabbits eat carrots.
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Does it bother no one else that Zero III is calling Clover "Cleaver" considering what happened in the non-canon Axe Ending?
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GeneralYeti posted:On an unrelated note: Zero III is a rabbit, right? What girl followed the rabbit into Wonderland? Alice. What do rabbits eat? Clover. I think this particular Nonary game is targeted at them. Count Bleck posted:Took me about 2 weeks after playing VLR to realize that the AB game is a version of the prisoner's dilemma and that I learned how to use it in an economic environment during my Microeconomics class in college.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Does it bother no one else that Zero III is calling Clover "Cleaver" considering what happened in the non-canon Axe Ending? I brought this up earlier and nobody seemed to notice but yeah I think that's not a coincidence. SingerOfW posted:I'm honestly not sure how you could've missed it. You miss a lot of poo poo at 4AM.
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