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Kurtofan posted:loving anti-gay marriage protesters tried to disrupt the final of Rolland Garros (Tennis) a while ago, an "Hommen" (male fascist version of Femen) even tried to throw a flare in the Presidential tribune where the mayor of Paris was located. Wow, "hommen" is a good illustration of how MRAs and their ilk really can't do anything but ape the rhetoric of feminism and social justice. "Oh, I have male privilege? Yeah, well you have female privilege! How do you like that? Huh? HUH?" This goes along with the "calling me a homophobe is oppression!" crowd. It's loving disgusting, but I guess it's what you get when outright saying "We should oppress people" becomes slightly less fashionable: you just cloak your oppressive homophobia and misogyny in the skins of movements that have opposed these things, which attempts both to delegitimize their rhetorical tools and muddy the waters among the "truth is in the middle" crowd.
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What's even the point of wearing a mask when you're doing something like that?
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paragon1 posted:What's even the point of wearing a mask when you're doing something like that? Either they're aping 'Anonymous' or it's some "we represent every faceless voiceless child" thing. In some other pics I see of them protesting this, they have cloth gags in their mouths too, so it wouldn't surprise me if it was meant to be symbolic. I'm sure they spend an equal amount of time protesting all the faceless voiceless gay people who commit suicide and stuff too, though 
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Isn't "hommen" the French word for both "man" and "human"? The language proves that women are not real humans, why are they getting uppity?! 
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Man is "homme" (the N at the end of their name comes from copying FEMEN) and it is often used to mean human as well, although the proper word for that is "humain".paragon1 posted:What's even the point of wearing a mask when you're doing something like that? They know that for all their rhetoric about standing for a silent majority they don't actually have that much support in the general population, especially now that the law's been adopted.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:Prediction: In a 5-4 decision, Kennedy holds that federal benefits are available to anyone legally married by any state, regardless of whether their current state of residence allows gay marriage. In a scathing dissent, Scalia argues that not only do gay people lose their benefits when they travel to a non-marriage state, but that the Constitution bars gay people from being federal citizens. The ruling is eventually cited as a major cause of the Second Civil War, as it draws Gaybraham Lincoln out of private life and back into politics. You can't bring up Gaybraham Lincoln without this.
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Kassad posted:Man is "homme" (the N at the end of their name comes from copying FEMEN) and it is often used to mean human as well, although the proper word for that is "humain". Yeah, wearing a mask at a protest seems more like an act of cowardice than anything else to me.
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No decision on any of the marriage cases today. I believe this only leaves two more possible days in this term for an opinion to be released now.
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SCOTUSblog is expecting opinions on June 13th, June 17th and June 24th. There's also the possibility of additional decisions being announced on June 20th. Following today's opinions, there are still 23 cases yet to be decided. VVV Releasing opinions on Mondays is traditional, and towards the end of the session it's not uncommon to see opinions on Thursdays as well, when the Court also meets in conference to vote/consider new cases. Wax Dynasty fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jun 10, 2013 |
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Jun 10, 2013 20:28
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What are they waiting for? Sweeps?
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:What are they waiting for? Sweeps?  I remain an optimist. 
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:What are they waiting for? Sweeps? Enough justices might not have completed their opinions yet to find a majority. There may even be dissent between the multiple ways to rule on the case in total.
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fade5 posted:They're forestalling the protests and screaming that'll happen when they legalize Gay Marriage nationwide. See I'm the pessimist I'm bracing myself for the "prop 8 and DOMA are constitutional because reasons" Majority ruling written by Scalia. Literally the stuff of nightmares.
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paragon1 posted:Yeah, wearing a mask at a protest seems more like an act of cowardice than anything else to me. Definitely. It's pretty striking in comparison to the FEMEN activists who don't hide their identities at all, even in countries where protesting topless means actually facing a judge. It goes to show how most of the opponents of same-sex marriage are privileged enough to be able to just walk away from it when they want, with no consequences to themselves. And of course they deny having any responsibilty when someone eventually gets hurt or killed because of their toxic bullshit. This tremendous tool wasn't wearing a mask but he knew the cops wouldn't touch him: 
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Kassad posted:Definitely. It's pretty striking in comparison to the FEMEN activists who don't hide their identities at all, even in countries where protesting topless means actually facing a judge. It goes to show how most of the opponents of same-sex marriage are privileged enough to be able to just walk away from it when they want, with no consequences to themselves. And of course they deny having any responsibilty when someone eventually gets hurt or killed because of their toxic bullshit. I hate these people so loving much, they are obviously from well off backgrounds, yet protest violently over something that doesn't concern them in any way, and then have the gall to call themselves the victims, do they believe their own lies or are they just loving evil? "boohoo the socialist dictatorship is arresting us for our ideas, why does the police attack us while letting suburbs thugs (dogwhistle for immigrants youth) run rampant?"
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Kassad posted:This tremendous tool wasn't wearing a mask but he knew the cops wouldn't touch him: In the US someone can spit on or even near a cop at a protest and get hauled off on assault charges. An actual physical attack like that gets you hauled off on an assault charge with a couple of minor cuts, abrasions and bruises from a rough arrest and most likely resisting charges to boot. Are the French more lenient in general or is this entirely because they're white and rich instead of just partially.
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cafel posted:In the US someone can spit on or even near a cop at a protest and get hauled off on assault charges. An actual physical attack like that gets you hauled off on an assault charge with a couple of minor cuts, abrasions and bruises from a rough arrest and most likely resisting charges to boot. Are the French more lenient in general or is this entirely because they're white and rich instead of just partially. Yeah, I'm having a hard time picturing how any cop on crowd control duty would just be like "whoa, he kicked me, what do I do?!? I guess nothing." No matter how Suit-y and white the person doing the kicking was.
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Michigan activists working on 2016 ballot measure. There is a federal lawsuit is on hold while SCOTUS decides Hollingsworth. The article notes that unlike every marriage state Michigan does not have employment protection and adoption rights, but only the craziest of people think this wouldn't pass in 2016. quote:"We think these polls are simply a reflection of an echo chamber, a Hollywood and mainstream media culture that tells everybody that everybody everywhere suddenly overnight now supports so-called homosexual marriage."
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:What are they waiting for? Sweeps? They're probably waiting for their secretaries to decode the smudged onion-skin typewriter paper that constitutes the 21st-century output of the most powerful court on the planet. I'm half joking, but I remember hearing that one of the justices who retired under Obama wrote his opinions by hand til his last day on the bench. I can just imagine Scalia's pudgy fingers hunting and pecking on an ancient Tandy keyboard, tossing floppies over his shoulder when he's done, where a clerk collects them and runs them through six file converters to get into a usable format. Then he loads gorillas.bas 
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That's pretty badass. I bet handwriter man had an absolutely baller pen. Nice smooth tip, ground to a stylish angle from years of use. Yeah man, that's good stuff. Knowing government employees, though, it's just as possible he had a pallet of Bic Round Stics forklifted in from the Pentagon as soon as Clinton was lame-ducked, and was only 1/4 of the way through when he left. The rest went to the dump unused.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:That's pretty badass. I bet handwriter man had an absolutely baller pen. Nice smooth tip, ground to a stylish angle from years of use. Yeah man, that's good stuff. Bics?! Don't you know there's a sequester on son?
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Also, obviously justices will be set in their ways technologically. When you're deciding your contribution to precedent-setting cases, worrying about where the motherfucking save button got goddamn moved to on this loving version is something you're busy and powerful enough to make someone else's problem.
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cafel posted:Are the French more lenient in general or is this entirely because they're white and rich instead of just partially. I see it as caution rather than leniency. The cops are playing the waiting game because there aren't that many of them compared to the crowd there, and it isn't really rowdy (France may have different standards for that, I'll admit  what I mean is that they're not throwing poo poo at the cops), so grabbing the guy was probably not a good idea at that point. I do think US cops have a tendency to be overly aggressive towards protesters and escalate situations that could be defused fairly easily, possibly because they're less used to illegal protests than French police. That's not too say French cops are perfect or anything, of course, they certainly don't hesitate to snatch people if they have the numbers on their side, same as everywhere I imagine. If I'm not mistaken later during that protest a guy tried to light a fire and then threw some lighter fuel in the face of a police commissioner. Needless to say he was arrested on the spot, crowd or not (full disclosure: it was a black guy, but as OMGVBFLOL said it'd be the same if he was white).If you're interested, here you can see how they behave against an actually hostile crowd:Linking it because integration is disabled Basically they keep the rioters at bay until reinforcements arrive, then they go out and charge and make arrests (and you can see they're not being kind about it). Especially check out the man in a red pullover and brown jacket riling up the others at 7:15, around 9:15 they go out and arrest him when there are less rioters. Also at the very end there's footage of cops trying to prevent the cameraman from filming a rough arrest.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:They're probably waiting for their secretaries to decode the smudged onion-skin typewriter paper that constitutes the 21st-century output of the most powerful court on the planet. I'm half joking, but I remember hearing that one of the justices who retired under Obama wrote his opinions by hand til his last day on the bench. I can just imagine Scalia's pudgy fingers hunting and pecking on an ancient Tandy keyboard, tossing floppies over his shoulder when he's done, where a clerk collects them and runs them through six file converters to get into a usable format. Then he loads gorillas.bas I really hope some intern or clerk that works for him loads this onto his computer then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44uYz6PuTj0
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A Winner is Jew posted:I really hope some intern or clerk that works for him loads this onto his computer then. Christ is that an hour long?
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quote:We think these polls are simply a reflection of an echo chamber And the echo chamber is called "America"
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Prop 8/DOMA decisions could be released tomorrow, right? That would be a nice birthday present (and would make up for the huge-rear end rainstorm that's supposed to happen).
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katium posted:Prop 8/DOMA decisions could be released tomorrow, right? That would be a nice birthday present (and would make up for the huge-rear end rainstorm that's supposed to happen). I think they'll probably wait until the last possible day so that the next two weeks aren't filled with people protesting during other decisions.
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Is there some way to organize a violent protest, or bribe politicians into supporting gay marriage?
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katium posted:Prop 8/DOMA decisions could be released tomorrow, right? That would be a nice birthday present (and would make up for the huge-rear end rainstorm that's supposed to happen). Theoretically yeah. Although there's a lot of controversial decisions to be released, so they might try to get them all over with at once or space them out so as to not overwhelm the newscycles.
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No SSM ruling today. The Court is scheduled to release rulings on June 17th or the 24th, but may add more dates. This seems likely, as the Court only issued four opinions today, with (I think) nineteen more to go. In addition to the SSM cases, the Court has three other major cases undecided involving the VRA, Affirmative Action and a question about the scope of Native American courts.
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Teddybear posted:Theoretically yeah. Although there's a lot of controversial decisions to be released, so they might try to get them all over with at once or space them out so as to not overwhelm the newscycles. They have to butcher Affirmative Action and the Voting Rights Act before they get around to issuing the narrowest decision possible on SSM.
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Today is the day? Or the 24th I guess. Hoping for good news from DOMA and Prop 8, and non-terrible news on affirmative action and the Voting Rights Act 
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No gay marriage ruling again. Another extra ruling day announced for this Thursday.
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Chin Strap posted:No gay marriage ruling again. Another extra ruling day announced for this Thursday. Oh I can't wait for those NOM tears.
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Van5 posted:Oh I can't wait for those NOM tears.
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