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Team THEOLOGY posted:I'm not sure if you've been on the hill and through security much in a vehicle but when Pierre Pollievere did it, it was stupid as gently caress too. Gonna have to agree with TT on this. It's not a big deal, but it's loving stupid and out of touch and demonstrates that politicians are probably as a class all really egocentric. Blowing through a security checkpoint and not stopping when the RCMP asks you to are not things people need to try and defend or hand-wave away.
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I have to say, Question Period was hilarious today because of all that.
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Cordyceps Headache posted:Gonna have to agree with TT on this. It's not a big deal, but it's loving stupid and out of touch and demonstrates that politicians are probably as a class all really egocentric. Blowing through a security checkpoint and not stopping when the RCMP asks you to are not things people need to try and defend or hand-wave away. From the Globe article on the same subject "In a statement, the NDP said that Mr. Mulcair simply followed his normal routine by driving through the gate and waving at the officer on duty. The officer did not recognize the NDP Leader, and engaged in a pursuit." But I'm sure it was an exciting high-speed chase with the wild-eyed Mulcair dodging pedestrians while blowing through stop signs. Absolutely. I'd bet cash money that this pursuit took place at about 20km/h with Mulcair spending all of it wondering what the gently caress the RCMP guy behind him was doing.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 02:37 |
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Tochiazuma posted:From the Globe article on the same subject Wait, am I the only one who pulls over when an RCMP officer with his lights on behind me is tailing? Anyway, jokes or not, whatever. Again, it's not a huge story but to trivialize it and say its all good is a bit hypocritical. Again, it doesn't matter who it is, it's the principal not the practice. He knows better.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 02:44 |
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If only Angus hadn't opened his big dumb mouth when Polly did it.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 02:53 |
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Team THEOLOGY posted:Wait, am I the only one who pulls over when an RCMP officer with his lights on behind me is tailing? Agreed. Go back and read what the NDP (and CPC) folks were saying when Pollievre did the same thing in 2010, and bathe in the hypocrisy.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 02:53 |
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Team THEOLOGY posted:Wait, am I the only one who pulls over when an RCMP officer with his lights on behind me is tailing? Which is why he apologized. I just think that both in here and in the House it was made to be a much larger deal than it was. Which is politics, I suppose. But, if I think we shouldn't 'waste time' on discussing it, I guess I had better try to get a better discussion going As I think some posters in this thread would agree, the position of Prime Minister holds a lot of power, that Stephen Harper has made the most of. While I don't agree with a lot of his policies, I can say he has been masterful at using every lever of power available while in office. So my question is: should the power of the PM be curbed? And if so, how?
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 02:59 |
This never would have happened to Jack Layton because he biked to work
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 03:26 |
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Did anyone watch Pamela Wallin's interview on CBC? She has her head so far up her rear end it's amazing. Too bad Peter Mansbridge doesn't have the balls to ask real questions, although he didn't have to push too hard to get her to self-incriminate (and pretend she wasn't doing anything wrong in the process). You can read and watch the whole painful exchange here. You can really tell that Wallin has practice expelling this kind of verbal diarrhea: Pamela Wallin, with Peter Mansbridge in bold posted:Let’s get back to the issue that you say is the sole issue that’s at hand, which is flight expenses, travel expenses. We’re not talking about a $25 cab ticket here. We’re talking at least $40,000 you’ve paid back. You see, it's really the Senate's fault for failing to disapprove of my using public funds to promote Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jun 14, 2013 |
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eXXon posted:Did anyone watch Pamela Wallin's interview on CBC? She has her head so far up her rear end it's amazing. Too bad Peter Mansbridge doesn't have the balls to ask real questions, although he didn't have to push too hard to get her to self-incriminate (and pretend she wasn't doing anything wrong in the process). Here's a French lesson, courtesy of La Presse. La Presse, en français posted:Un examen des dépenses de voyage de Mme Wallin, entre septembre 2010 et le 30 novembre 2012, révèle qu'elle a réclamé 29 423 $ pour ce qui est considéré comme des déplacements réguliers entre la Saskatchewan et Ottawa, tout en exigeant 321 000 $ supplémentaires pour d'autres voyages ailleurs au Canada et à l'étranger. Trois cent vingt et un mille loving dollars to flights not between Saskatchewan and Ottawa. Let's be generous for two seconds and say it costs as much for the connections from Ottawa to Toronto that are either connections to Saskatchewan or just "simple flights to Toronto". That leaves at the very least 292k$ of questionable flights. Can someone tell me how many boards she had to resign from recently (Gluskin Sheff and Porter Airlines), and how many she is still a member of?
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 04:44 |
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Jesus 300 grand is enough to sent practically 300 people anywhere in the world, round trip.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 08:12 |
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You think it costs 1000 dollars to go roundtrip anywhere in the world?
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 08:24 |
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It costs upwards of $2000 round-trip to get to certain places in Africa from Canada (flights to-from are generally from Europe to their former colonies). And this is cheap, lovely 12 hour layover flights.
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Cordyceps Headache posted:In pure terms of energy used to transport people, public transit always wins. Even if we bought every poor person a car (which he wold also hate, the liar), who's going to pay for the gas? That's his big loving deliberate omission, the actual cost of the energy to move all the subsidized hunks of metal he's decided solve the transit issue. It's a really awful argument. You might as well say we should build blimps instead of air planes since they cost less, without ever calculating the fuel efficiency factors that makes blimps much worse than airplanes. There was a really interesting study conducted in 2009 that compared the environmental cost of all methods of transit - from Airplane travel, to cars, to rail, to busses. This study looked at the environmental costs required to maintain these vehicles, power these vehicles, and allow these vehicles movement (road and rail maintenance). The finding noted some interesting points. It goes without saying that cars are one of the worst offenders, as the % of people moved versus energy required to move them, maintain the cars, and maintain the roads is high. Airline travel, on the other hand, did not have as high an impact the study authors predicted, as the increased cost in jet fuel was minimized somewhat by not having to maintain a roadway for them to fly in. Surprisingly, the highest, and the lowest, winners were busses. A city buss that is full of people (apparently) is the most efficient method of moving people around as; and conversely, busses are also the biggest losers if they are running without passengers. If someone here also knows of the study and could post me a link, I'd be grateful. I remember hearing it on the CBC back in 2009 and wouldn't mind giving it another read.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 12:13 |
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I support the NDP and I definitely think Tom was being dumb for not stopping. Even if he was doing rolling stops at the signs, went a mere 20k/h, and only asked "Don't you know who I am?" as an actual interrogative since he goes through that checkpoint every day, it's still dumb and rude. Cops behind you? Stop. And unless it's a total fabrication there's no way around asking to look at the badge to get them into trouble later. It's a dumb, self-made distraction and any politician that's more concerned about promoting their cause rather than their own ego would cooperate fully with police - and it's exactly the sort of pointless, gossipy distraction the Opposition shouldn't want to cause right now while the Conservatives are struggling with scandals.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 14:51 |
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Sorry, what scandals? We should be focusing on how angry Tom treats hard working Canadians poorly.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 15:02 |
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Ceciltron posted:Jesus 300 grand is enough to sent practically 300 people anywhere in the world, round trip. It really isn't. When you factor in the taxes and other fees, it can cost about that much just to fly someone one way from Victoria to St. John's.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 15:10 |
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Tochiazuma posted:Can I throw out the possibility that "Don't you know who I am?" means "Isn't it your job to know what the Leader of the Opposition looks like when you work on Parliament Hill?" I agree completely and would care equally little no matter who did it.
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Giant Goats posted:It really isn't. When you factor in the taxes and other fees, it can cost about that much just to fly someone one way from Victoria to St. John's. $300,000? One way across Canada? For one person? Are you considering getting a Concorde out of mothballs just for your personal use one time?
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 16:03 |
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:$300,000? One way across Canada? For one person? Are you considering getting a Concorde out of mothballs just for your personal use one time? It's Trudeau pulling you on a rickshaw and he delivers speeches the whole way.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 16:06 |
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Lobok posted:It's Trudeau pulling you on a rickshaw and he delivers speeches the whole way.
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Ofc. Sex Robot BPD posted:BREAKING: RCMP reports Trudeau's remains discovered in torched-out rickshaw outside of Kamloops, BC. Developing... Oh boy, then there will be another leadership race. I think I could manage more 80 hour weeks. And maybe we'll end up with Prime Minister Astronaut. EDIT: Serious, as much as I love Marc, I don't want anything bad to happen to JT, at all.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 16:27 |
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We argued about random alcohol and drug testing at work here at some point. Abella continues to be the best justice on the Court. quote:The Supreme Court of Canada says an employer who wants to impose random alcohol testing on unionized workers in a dangerous work environment must show it is a reasonable move.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 16:57 |
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everyone posted:airplane prices Well poo poo, guess I figured you'd get a bulk discount for 300 grand. (I'm bad, I know, it's been too long since I've even been able to afford looking at the cost of traveling)
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Ceciltron posted:Well poo poo, guess I figured you'd get a bulk discount for 300 grand. (I'm bad, I know, it's been too long since I've even been able to afford looking at the cost of traveling) Is this 300 grand for one year's travel expenses? I don't understand how you could spend that much in one year for travel expenses? I guess she ain't flying coach!
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 18:55 |
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I guess I'm not voting for NDP next time
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 18:58 |
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I think it's funny how National Post and Globe & Mail comment posters, who were previously all in favour of banning religious headwear on the pitch, have decided they hate Quebec even more than they hate Muslims and Sikhs.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 19:49 |
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Nothing unites the rest of canada more than hating on Quebec. All petty regionalism goes out the window when there's a quebec to scoff at. Doesn't matter if you're a yaletown yuppie or an albertan oil worker, it's the one thing that can bring canadians together. Tim Hortons should use it in a disgustingly sentimental ad.
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Baronjutter posted:Nothing unites the rest of canada more than hating on Quebec. All petty regionalism goes out the window when there's a quebec to scoff at. Doesn't matter if you're a yaletown yuppie or an albertan oil worker, it's the one thing that can bring canadians together. Tim Hortons should use it in a disgustingly sentimental ad. Someone should do a study of what unites Canadians more: hating on Quebec or hating on natives.
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Squibbles posted:Someone should do a study of what unites Canadians more: hating on Quebec or hating on natives. Feeling superior to the Yanks.
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Canuckistan posted:Feeling superior to the Yanks. This a thousand times.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 20:11 |
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It's not exactly a feeling, though. More a fact.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 20:13 |
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Yeah, and it unites us about as much as agreeing "the sky is blue" unites us.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 20:21 |
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I gotta say thats my least favorite bit of Canadian culture.
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Baloogan posted:I gotta say thats my least favorite bit of Canadian culture. I'm in this boat. As great as "we" (And "we" is always a strange and nebulous term) are, at least they don't have kings or queens. It's not really of any use, in general, to encourage a culture based on exclusion or superiority complexes.
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Ceciltron posted:I'm in this boat. As great as "we" (And "we" is always a strange and nebulous term) are, at least they don't have kings or queens. Plus it's a great way to pretend we don't have huge systemic problems with racism too. "We Canadians are multicultural, unlike those racist Americans!"; well except for how we treat aboriginal peoples and our periodic bouts of xenophobic hatred for [insert minority here]. But whatever, at least we're not the US.
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Ceciltron posted:at least they don't have kings or queens. Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jun 14, 2013 |
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Baloogan posted:I gotta say thats my least favorite bit of Canadian culture. It leads to a lot of ugly poo poo like Canadians thinking just because a Canadian town is close to the American border, that must mean it also shares their crime rate. Canadians are Niles, Americans are Fraiser.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 20:43 |
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Can you imagine the glorious united nation we'd be if Quebec became a part of the United States?
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Oh hey, here's the Star with some shoddy journalism again:Bryan Tuckey Staff Reporter posted:Government takes one-fifth of cost of new homes in greater GTA Some more garbage about how taxpayers are unfairly shouldering the burden of ... paying... for... public infrastructure... what the gently caress, seriously? Who else is going to pay for public infrastructure in your lovely, poorly designed, low density suburbs encroaching on rich farmland and the Niagara escarpment? At the end of the article is this gem: quote:Bryan Tuckey is President and CEO of the Building Industry and Land Development Association (BILD) and can be found on Twitter (twitter.com/bildgta ), Facebook (facebook.com/bildgta ), Youtube (youtube.com/bildgta ) and BILD’s official online blog (bildblogs.ca). Are you loving serious? Your "Staff Reporter" is literally the head of a developer lobby? Apparently he writes regular opinion pieces, including this one extolling the virtues of ... his own association. What is the Star trying to pull here?
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 20:51 |