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bisticles posted:Anybody been able to get their hands on the Samyang 24mm?
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:The-Digital-Picture posted their review a week or so ago. They weren't terribly impressed with it. Wow... those samples are atrocious. 
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Jun 15, 2013 02:49
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bisticles posted:Wow... those samples are atrocious. Also you probably wouldn't be shooting wide open like that.
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Jun 15, 2013 02:51
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Keep in mind that they're directly comparing it to one of the sharpest lenses Canon has ever produced, so it's not exactly a fair fight. Yeah, but even at f/8 it's kinda lovely compared to the canon. Half the price though.
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Jun 15, 2013 05:15
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Disappointing showing from the Koreans there. Their 35mm 1.4 set the bar really high. Equalling or bettering the 35mm L in pretty much all areas except "bokeh quality" at a third of the price.
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Jun 15, 2013 05:46
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I just bought a 6D (it was 30% off with the 24-105L, how could I not?!) - and it turns out the provided software really hosed up not only my computer, but the rest of the network. As long as "Canon EOS UPNP Service" was running, all computers had trouble using the network - the wireless routers were unusable, pings between devices (not running the service) on the wired network were in the 3-4 digit milliseconds, and it lasted until I killed the service. Great job Canon!  I've been running around rebooting everything for hours, and was on my way to do a test of the wiring in all the network cables when I stumbled over the process
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Jun 15, 2013 09:19
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A drat shame about their tilt shift, because the Samyang 24mm/1.4 is pretty drat good.
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Jun 15, 2013 10:04
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dorkanoid posted:I just bought a 6D (it was 30% off with the 24-105L, how could I not?!) - and it turns out the provided software really hosed up not only my computer, but the rest of the network. Holy poo poo. I thought I was the only one. Killing the Canon wireless transfer program worked for me.
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Jun 15, 2013 13:19
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Wow I can see why the 24TS has such a reputation. The price to performance of the samyang TS when stopped down to f8 seems to be quite fair to be honest.
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Jun 15, 2013 14:46
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ShotgunWillie posted:Holy poo poo. I thought I was the only one. Killing the Canon wireless transfer program worked for me. --edit: Tried the DLNA option and I can access the SD card of my 6D over the network, but it appears to show poo poo, because the photos are all RAW. 
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Jun 15, 2013 15:09
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Mr. Despair posted:Yeah, but even at f/8 it's kinda lovely compared to the canon. Half the price though. I've been wondering about something like this. Does stopping down the aperture improve the image quality over lovely optics and lenses? Like, will a top of the line Canon lens that is shooting at 2.8 always be better than a knock-off lens that costs a tenth as much shooting at 22?
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Jun 15, 2013 17:12
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Boneitis posted:I've been wondering about something like this. Does stopping down the aperture improve the image quality over lovely optics and lenses? Like, will a top of the line Canon lens that is shooting at 2.8 always be better than a knock-off lens that costs a tenth as much shooting at 22? At 22, you'll start running into diffraction effects. Image quality is affected by lens aberrations at low f-numbers, and diffraction at high f-numbers. The sweet spot is somewhere in the middle, usually somewhere around f/8 or f/10. How the different lenses compare would require some sperging out over MTF charts that don't matter anyway because most of my photos end up compressed to hell on Facebook. I've gotten great results from my kit lens at f/10.
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Jun 15, 2013 17:21
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Boneitis posted:I've been wondering about something like this. Does stopping down the aperture improve the image quality over lovely optics and lenses? Like, will a top of the line Canon lens that is shooting at 2.8 always be better than a knock-off lens that costs a tenth as much shooting at 22? Well, it's not quite that simple. Generally lenses will be at their sharpest around f8 or so, but sharpness varies across the image plane, so a lens that is tack sharp in the center even at 1.8 can be softer around the corners. There are also factors like chromatic aberration, lens flare and bokeh quality. So while a cheap lens may be just as sharp in the center at f8 as an expensive lens is at f2, that's not really a fair comparison.
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Jun 15, 2013 17:34
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What's that really, really good Samyang (I remember it's wide, but I can't remember how wide) that had basically better quality than all the Canon lineup?
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Jun 15, 2013 18:12
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Combat Pretzel posted:If the Canon wireless transfer works via UPnP, is there some third party solution for it? Or is there any indication of Lightroom possibly enabling wireless transfers in future? Having the same problem, I'll just make do without that feature I think. However, one sentence 6D review: usable pictures at ISO12800 WTF?!
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Jun 15, 2013 18:17
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HookShot posted:What's that really, really good Samyang (I remember it's wide, but I can't remember how wide) that had basically better quality than all the Canon lineup? The 35mm F/1.4
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Jun 15, 2013 19:52
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pseudonordic posted:The 35mm F/1.4 Ah cool, thanks!
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Jun 15, 2013 21:20
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Is it just me or is the Canon refurb site down? I honestly can't tell because I have been busy ripping adware and virus poo poo off my computer. That is the last time I let somebody else use it.
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CrushedWill posted:Is it just me or is the Canon refurb site down? I honestly can't tell because I have been busy ripping adware and virus poo poo off my computer. That is the last time I let somebody else use it. It is surely acting strange. If I go to the link I have for the refurb cameras directly it just hangs, but if I go to http://shop.usa.canon.com/ and click cameras/refurbs it works just like normal.
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outcast_p posted:It is surely acting strange. If I go to the link I have for the refurb cameras directly it just hangs, but if I go to http://shop.usa.canon.com/ and click cameras/refurbs it works just like normal. Thanks for confirming, at least it's not just me.
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Jun 16, 2013 07:35
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HookShot posted:What's that really, really good Samyang (I remember it's wide, but I can't remember how wide) that had basically better quality than all the Canon lineup? I think you actually mean the 14, there were some comparison shots on here and the result was amazing.
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Jun 16, 2013 11:22
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I'm going to be doing a bit of night landscape photography coming up and I don't really have any great wide angle lenses. I was looking to grab something from LensRentals to try out; does anyone have a recommendation between the Sigma 8-16 4.5-5.6, Sigma 10-20 3.5, Canon 10-20 3.5-4.5, and Tokina 11-16 2.8 (shooting with an XSi)? I can't think of a situation where I wouldn't be using a tripod for these shots so I guess I'd be looking for the sharpest lens?
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GobiasIndustries posted:I'm going to be doing a bit of night landscape photography coming up and I don't really have any great wide angle lenses. I was looking to grab something from LensRentals to try out; does anyone have a recommendation between the Sigma 8-16 4.5-5.6, Sigma 10-20 3.5, Canon 10-20 3.5-4.5, and Tokina 11-16 2.8 (shooting with an XSi)? I can't think of a situation where I wouldn't be using a tripod for these shots so I guess I'd be looking for the sharpest lens? Since you're renting and the price difference between them is probably minimal, I'd go with the Canon 10-22. (Unless you need the extra wide angle that Sigma can offer) It was my favorite lens when I had a APS-C body, and was extremely sharp. My 17-40L is soft in comparison.
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If you're shooting handheld, at night, on an XSi, you'll want that f/2.8. The zoom range is limited but the f/2.8 will allow you to keep exposures firmly in hand-shakeless territory or maybe even on ISO 800. (which saves you from the horrors that are ISO 1600 on an XSi) I used to shoot handheld with the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 on an XSi at night, now I use a 7D for that, and yeah. That f/2.8 goes a long way. It's a great lens, too.
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Jun 16, 2013 18:32
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He said he won't be not using a tripod. All these lenses are great when stopped down, would suggest getting the 8-16 for maximum width.
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Jun 16, 2013 19:55
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I love my 8-16 and primarily use it at 8 but it can be too wide for a lot of landscapes. I find it best for really tall things, or when you have something big in the foreground.
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Jun 16, 2013 21:34
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dorkanoid posted:I just bought a 6D (it was 30% off with the 24-105L, how could I not?!) - and it turns out the provided software really hosed up not only my computer, but the rest of the network. Where did you get this for 30% off? I am hoping to pick one up around July/August if money is there. Man I would love to get that combo for 30% off.
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Jun 17, 2013 15:06
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mAlfunkti0n posted:Where did you get this for 30% off? I am hoping to pick one up around July/August if money is there. Man I would love to get that combo for 30% off. It was in Norway, and the offer ended last Saturday - basically I got 6D + 24-105L for 16999 NOK, which google tells me is approximately 2970 USD - and I see B&H have it for 2400 USD  Usually the camera costs around 15k NOK and the 24-105L around 7-8k NOK. I just wish I'd picked up the 40mm f/2.8 while it cost 600 NOK after cashback
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dorkanoid posted:It was in Norway, and the offer ended last Saturday - basically I got 6D + 24-105L for 16999 NOK, which google tells me is approximately 2970 USD - and I see B&H have it for 2400 USD Ah gotcha. I am thinking I will probably buy the kit .. unless I can get the body only for a bit less and be better off buying the 24-105 as a separate. Also, concerning the UPNP issue with Canon software .. UPNP itself is a horrible horrible thing, so it doesn't surprise me it screwed up so badly. UPNP, to put it in plain words .. is total garbage. mAlfunkti0n fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jun 17, 2013 |
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Jun 17, 2013 15:42
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In a way, I wish Canon would go ahead and offer refurbed 6Ds. In another way, I hope they hold off as I don't have the cash for one at this point. Anybody have a guess what the price will be on a 6D refurb? I'm hoping about the same as a 5DMKII, but that might be a bit optimistic.
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mAlfunkti0n posted:Ah gotcha. I am thinking I will probably buy the kit .. unless I can get the body only for a bit less and be better off buying the 24-105 as a separate. Yeah, my plan for my next camera is a 5Dmk3 with a Raspberry Pi built into the grip to use for wifi tethering instead of the Canon gizmo. Combat Pretzel posted:A drat shame about their tilt shift, because the Samyang 24mm/1.4 is pretty drat good. Now what I'd like to see is the Samyang compared to the original Canon TS-E 24 as it has been know to be vastly inferior to the new version. I wonder which one is better. I'm very disappointed though as the market could really use some affordable wide-angle TS options. I still would've chosen the Samyang over the 17-40L I had been using when I first got started with architecture. I just sold my 10-22 and now I'm considering selling the 17-40 as well and replacing it with either the Samyang 35/1.4 or Sigma 35/1.4 and having all primes.
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woot fatigue posted:Now what I'd like to see is the Samyang compared to the original Canon TS-E 24 as it has been know to be vastly inferior to the new version. I wonder which one is better. I can't do a side-by-side comparison, but I can assure you that my 1st gen 24mm TS-E looks better at f/3.5 than that blurry mess of branches. I don't have many samples of shots taken with that lens at f/3.5 where I wasn't intentionally trying to make part of the frame blurry... so my choices are limited. But here's one, unedited (taken with 5Dmk2). You can see plenty of CA, but it's reasonably sharp (for f/3.5). This is before any kind of CA-correction in Lightroom.
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woot fatigue posted:I just sold my 10-22 and now I'm considering selling the 17-40 as well and replacing it with either the Samyang 35/1.4 or Sigma 35/1.4 and having all primes. Both 35mm lenses you mention are really good. The Sigma in particular really sticks it to the 35mm L but if you don't absolutely need autofocus then saving some $$ going with the Samyang won't disappoint either.
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Someone tell me the 6D is junk and I don't want it. I hate being poor at the moment.
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Jun 18, 2013 14:45
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mAlfunkti0n posted:Someone tell me the 6D is junk and I don't want it. I hate being poor at the moment. It is junk, why the hell would you want it.
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As far as the 35mm goes, you might want to have AF because it's easier to miss with the focus at 35mm than at 24mm. If you still want to go with the Samyang, you might want to consider modding it with a third party chip for focus confirmation, if you don't always want to check and zoom into your images whether you hit infinity correctly or not.mAlfunkti0n posted:Someone tell me the 6D is junk and I don't want it. I hate being poor at the moment.
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Jun 18, 2013 14:54
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Combat Pretzel posted:Sorry, can't do that. You are cruel .. so cruel.
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mAlfunkti0n posted:Someone tell me the 6D is junk and I don't want it. I hate being poor at the moment. Ok I got this. -Less than 100% viewfinder. but you can change focusing screens unlike the 5D3 -SD card only. slow burst rate means you only really need an SD card -No joysick. you don't even get enough AF points to need one, heh
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mAlfunkti0n posted:Someone tell me the 6D is junk and I don't want it. I hate being poor at the moment. I got your back. Refurb Nikon D600 is the camera you want. Cheaper more focus points more megapickles more SD slots more dynamic range built-in wireless flash control higher sync speed or maybe you're loyal to Canon. Ok, then get a 5Dmk2. cheaper higher max shutter higher sync more metal better video better VF CF is faster than SD Comedy Fuji X-E1 option cheaper sweet primes
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The 5Dmk2 does NOT have better video than the 6D. Though everything else about it is a lot better, especially the construction and how it feels in your hand. The 6D also has built-in wireless control, even though it was flaky as hell to use (with the Android app at least). D600 would be my bet (I own one of these) and the dynamic range is pretty insane. Plus you get 2 high speed SD card slots.
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