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vote_no posted:Ever since I started viewing this show as a comedy, it's been great. There is no other way.
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PostNouveau posted:In Dexter's mind he was saving her, but I think Deb's completely right about getting away from him. Doing drugs with a scumbag she likes is a wayyyyy better life than getting dragged deeper and deeper into her brother's serial killing. I actually meant literally saving her from a mafia hitman.
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EL SAPO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6vZTXAKQpg
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I was personally reminded of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlYFNgnjw_w But I swear there's a song with El ___o somewhere that rhymes with El Sapo, like El Guapo or something, with a really silly sounding melody... I tried typing out some phonetic Spanish but that... it didn't work.
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escape artist posted:But I swear there's a song with El ___o somewhere that rhymes with El Sapo, like El Guapo or something, with a really silly sounding melody... I tried typing out some phonetic Spanish but that... it didn't work. Please tell me you're thinking about the "Cilantro" song from American Dad. It fits beautifully. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9rijazd_jA
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Junkfist posted:Meanwhile, in the alternate timeline: I hope this is a season 8 picture and my dream of a car full of Dexter's ghosts, is actually going to become a thing. Again, I'm already quite chuffed and proud it became an awesome picture (in the OP). Which one of you awesome goons drew that again?
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Ror posted:Please tell me you're thinking about the "Cilantro" song from American Dad. It fits beautifully. YES!!! THIS IS IT!!! Thank you so much for finding it. edit: You seriously just made my night by finding that.
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Ror posted:Please tell me you're thinking about the "Cilantro" song from American Dad. It fits beautifully. El Sapo no es bueno. 
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http://www.digitalspy.ca/odd/s64/dexter/news/a494970/dexter-life-sized-cake-replica-of-tv-serial-killer-picture.html loving cake
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I want to see a pack of fat kids eat that without utensils. It would be a metaphor for the show somehow.
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Picking up Dexter again after a marathon session of Game of Thrones feels like taking off your favourite pair of comfortable shoes and sticking your feet straight in wet mud: it's comfortable but you know you're now covered in poo poo.
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Well it's become clear now that Dexter is going to turn "human". It gets explained several times in the episode how "serial killers" show no empathy etc. Three times in the episode Dexter randomly and out of character gets angry. At Harrison, the guy who cuts him off, and Angel. It's all set up to show how Dexter has emotions now. It's looking like the final scene might involve Dexter crying. Either from being happy or someone's death.
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CaptainHollywood posted:Well it's become clear now that Dexter is going to turn "human". It gets explained several times in the episode how "serial killers" show no empathy etc. Three times in the episode Dexter randomly and out of character gets angry. At Harrison, the guy who cuts him off, and Angel. It's all set up to show how Dexter has emotions now. It's looking like the final scene might involve Dexter crying. Either from being happy or someone's death. I dunno, I thought Dexter's anger issues this episode were implied to be because Deb isn't around to be his "rock," so he's starting to lose it?
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Pellisworth posted:I dunno, I thought Dexter's anger issues this episode were implied to be because Deb isn't around to be his "rock," so he's starting to lose it?
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Pellisworth posted:I dunno, I thought Dexter's anger issues this episode were implied to be because Deb isn't around to be his "rock," so he's starting to lose it? This is how I took it, too. Empathy, the ability to understand how others are feeling, is much different from anger, and Dex is clearly still really lacking in this department. He has no idea how or why Deb wants him to gently caress off and leave her new life alone, nor does he see how or why suddenly turning up everywhere and killing her new boyfriend are making him even more abhorrent to her. He just doesn't get it. The "lack of emotion" that people say in reference to serial killers on this show (and in TV pseudopsychology in general) is more about not understanding others' emotions than not having any of your own. They can definitely get angry and freak the gently caress out like Dexter is doing, especially if their rituals and status quo have been interrupted as much as Dex's have. Although I'm not sure whether the writers knew that or if they just said "whoa what if he like almost kills a guy for cutting him off in traffic." The Code was part of his ritual, and it's pretty much out the window. His only stability, the only person left to make him feel like he's passing for normal (You could argue Harrison, but it's pretty clear how much Dex actually cares about him, and in Dex's mind, he's possibly already been tainted by the events of Rita's death) has been missing for months on a coke binge with some random dude. why am I psychoanalyzing this show my god after all the poo poo e: Taratang posted:This episode laboured the point about "real" psychopaths been cool and disconnected from their emotions, which is why Doakes was never a good fit for the BHB. Though to be honest, outside of maybe Season 1 Episode 1 Dexter has never been a very good example of a psychopath. QuickbreathFinisher fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jul 3, 2013 |
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Why the language area and oh I don't know, the without-remorse area? What about a sociopath with PTSD and anxiety? I wish he'd go at this like a spectrum, and not a cookie-cutter diagnosis. And he's not schizoid, most of his behavior goes against it. But seriously, I'd done a ton of research on ASPD/BPD (personal interest) and whatnot, and there was a psych/doctor that had spent his entire life working with and treating 'sociopaths.' He tried so hard to rehabilitate each one, and he had a few success stories but I just can't find it again. If this rings a bell for anyone, let me know. Let's please not derail on the pop-psych MPD bullshit.
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Haven't seen the new episode yet but I thought S7 was a great season Maybe it all depends on if you can tolerate certain characters (Hanna!) but I liked her inclusion. The previous few seasons all sucked a lot more than s7
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Dexter seasons are like the worlds from Super Mario Bros 3: 4 is everyone's favourite. 7 has mixed reviews. 3 is kind of unpopular but still generally liked. 5 was a letdown based on how good 4 was.
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Paradox Personified posted:Let's please not derail on the pop-psych MPD bullshit. I think the poster meant more than one personality disorder, not multiple personality disorder. Maybe Dexter has Asperger's - he clearly has trouble reading social signals, has specific interests, and gets upset when his routine is disturbed.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:I think the poster meant more than one personality disorder, not multiple personality disorder. Haha poo poo, sorry. Hey- maybe he just messed up in the head? I'm going with that one.
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Pellisworth posted:I dunno, I thought Dexter's anger issues this episode were implied to be because Deb isn't around to be his "rock," so he's starting to lose it? I think it's just a prelude to more emotions. Sidenote: Just looked up the age of Aimee Garcia (Jamie) 34, one year older than Jennifer Carpenter 
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Aside from bad writing, in the beginning of the series Dexter shied away from sex with Rita, but over the last few seasons he's hooked up with randoms multiple times. I wonder what changed?
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Dexter seasons are like the worlds from Super Mario Bros 3: That means 8 will be really difficult to get through but you'll feel rewarded in the end.
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Bigass Moth posted:Aside from bad writing, in the beginning of the series Dexter shied away from sex with Rita, but over the last few seasons he's hooked up with randoms multiple times. I wonder what changed? The early seasons hewed more closely to the books. In the first book, Dexter notes that women somehow seem to sense what he is after he has sex with them and break up with him at that point. He thinks Rita is his perfect woman because she provides the complete family cover while simultaneously being very wary of becoming intimate with a man after her failed marriage.
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Every season usually ends up with Dexter being influenced to be bad by a stunt-cast special guest star and then rejecting that influence like Luke turning away from the Dark Side or some poo poo. I just hope that's NOT what happens with Vogel. People wonder if Dexter's a psychopath or not...of course he's not a psychopath. He's not even schizoid. He has some traits of both and a murder compulsion but he spends the entire show looking for human connection and dealing with issues of responsibility and guilt. He's more just emotionally retarded and had a childhood that reinforced all those negative reactions with a lot of bizarro reparative therapy. So I hope there's a scene where Vogel realizes this and has a moment of pure  I'VE MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I think we can now safely guess this will be the spinoff/crossover
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Maybe Dexter actually remembers he has emotions now, and he has to pretend to be a real psycho around Vogel or she'll think he's out of control and turn him in, like a reversal of the Deb plot last season.
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Bigass Moth posted:Aside from bad writing, in the beginning of the series Dexter shied away from sex with Rita, but over the last few seasons he's hooked up with randoms multiple times. I wonder what changed? He got his end wet.
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Do y'all not remember the magic Laura Croft blow job that totally changed everything from season 1?
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So I just watched the first episode of s8 and I thought it was really good. It seemed really different in many ways from earlier seasons
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Zzulu posted:So I just watched the first episode of s8 and I thought it was really good. It seemed really different in many ways from earlier seasons In what way?
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Geekkake posted:In what way? LaGuerta was replaced with a bench.
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Hahaha, new thread title is amazing 
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Junkfist posted:LaGuerta was replaced with a bench. Touche.
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Junkfist posted:LaGuerta was replaced with a bench. Dexter parking his rear end right on the bench at some point during this past episode was just perfect
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