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Terminal Entropy posted:Is that factoring in a possible number of murders that no one knows was committed? How can you enter an unknown?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_State_Penitentiary_riot This is a mercifully brief wiki article. If you really want to have nightmares, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M-hPpuAqwQ&feature=youtu.be
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Leopold N. Loeb posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_State_Penitentiary_riot I watched this documentary when it was first on tv in the UK and I dont think ill ever forget it. I still shudder when i hear the phrase "acetylene torch"
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quote:The Penitentiary of New Mexico Prison Riot, which took place on February 2 and 3, 1980 [..] This was the third major riot at the NM State Penitentiary, the first occurring on 19 July 1922[3] and the second on 15 June 1953.[4] Seems to be a worrying pattern here, I hope they're prepared just in case 
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Leopold N. Loeb posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_State_Penitentiary_riot I found this doc while surfing youtube one night, and it still haunts me. There's a book about it, called "The Devil's Butcher Shop" which I kind of want to read, as it goes into all the events leading up to the riot. On another note, Andreas Krieger quote:Andreas Krieger (born Heidi Krieger on 20 July 1966) is a German former shot putter, who competed as a woman on the East German athletics team at SC Dynamo Berlin. Like many prominent East German athletes at the time,[1] Krieger was systematically and unknowingly doped with anabolic steroids. The whole East German doping policy is more sad than creepy, honestly. Krieger's was the most extreme, but almost all of them had terrible health problems in later years.
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Khazar-khum posted:How can you enter an unknown? It's possible to assume that a certain percentage of disappearances and deaths presumed to be accidental or natural are actually murders. That said, I don't know whether that's a reasonable assumption (being as I am not a criminologist) or what percentage you'd use.
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jalopybrown posted:Seems to be a worrying pattern here, I hope they're prepared just in case What pattern? That sometimes prisons have riots?
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Frostwerks posted:What pattern? That sometimes prisons have riots? That the same prison was having a major riot around every 30 years, now I've watched the documentary I guess it's unlikely they'll have another.
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Jul 18, 2013 22:19
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One break was 27 and the other was 31 though? I mean I get that you said "around" every 30 years but I'd hardly call it a pattern
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Jul 18, 2013 22:23
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Frostwerks posted:What pattern? That sometimes prisons have riots? That forcing bad people to live in terrible conditions doesn't always make them nicer.
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This was just posted in the rollercoaster death thread in GBS! The Euthanasia Roller Coaster! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_Coaster So simple, so elegant, so frightening.
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Mysterious people throughout history are always a little unnerving in my opinion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulcanelli - Fulcanelli, a French alchemist/wizard who has published weird, cryptic works and has a tendency of disappearing. He has some interesting things to say about nuclear weapons, before they were invented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_St._Germain - Mysterious jack-of-all-trades who is quite possibly the most successful conman of all time, simultaneously managing to confuse the poo poo out of Horace Walpole. Lots of urban legends about the guy, with some believing him to be immortal. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil_P%C3%A9rez - Gil Pérez, a Spanish soldier dressed in the garb of the palace guards in Manila, seemingly teleports from the Philippines to Mexico in October 26, 1593, babbling about the assassination of the governor, while having absolutely no clue as to how he ended up in Mexico. A ship arrives 2 months later delivering the same news about the governor being assassinated, verifying his story. A person on board the ship recognizes Gil Pérez and swears he saw him on duty on October 23, which if true would mean that Gil Pérez completed the journey in 3 days (pretty drat impossible).
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SBJ posted:
I've been trying to find this article for ages, thanks for posting this! I read it once when it was posted in some other thread and every time I try to find it again to show someone I never could find it. Shame the article dosent exist in the english version, I swear I did'nt have to run it through a translator (and was longer) when I saw it the first time. NuminaXLT has a new favorite as of 17:57 on Jul 23, 2013 |
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NuminaXLT posted:I've been trying to find this article for ages, thanks for posting this! I read it once when it was posted in some other thread and every time I try to find it again to show someone I never could find it. Wikipedia says the english version was deleted. Perhaps it will reappear in a few days mysteriously 
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Not a wikipedia link, but I read about Gil Perez in The Big Book of the Unexplained, which is a pretty fantastic comics anthology that a lot of people in this thread would enjoy. A lot of it is pretty dated and probably completely false, but it's presented in a really entertaining fashion. I'm pretty sure it's still in print and can be gotten for cheap. The whole series it's from is worth a read. I lied, here's a link. I'm only missing Freaks and The Weird Wild West.
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The Big Book of Martyrs is pretty bland but the rest of that series is fantastic and covers some similar stuff to this thread.
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Helmacron posted:This was just posted in the rollercoaster death thread in GBS! The Euthanasia Roller Coaster! I think about this thing every time I look at a roller coaster now.
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Helmacron posted:This was just posted in the rollercoaster death thread in GBS! The Euthanasia Roller Coaster! I immediately thought of another crazy execution device/art work thing called the Brazen Bull http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_bull This guy Perillos designs a big bronze bull in which a prisoner is placed inside and a fire lit underneath. The smoke that comes out was supposed to be heavily scented with incense and the screams converted into some kind of melodious bull noise by a system of pipes and tubes. The king, who was himself a cruel weirdo, thought the device was so hosed up he had Perillos shut up snide it and executed. That roller coaster guy should be forced to ride his own twisted creation.
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Dr Scoofles posted:I immediately thought of another crazy execution device/art work thing called the Brazen Bull
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Dr Scoofles posted:I immediately thought of another crazy execution device/art work thing called the Brazen Bull What? Why? I don't think the creator of that roller coaster was advocating its use, it was just a piece of art. And even if he was, it's meant to be painless and humane, in theory, as well as a matter of personal choice. Why do you think he should be murdered? Edit: As far as disturbing creations whose inventors you kind of wish had never been born go, nuclear weapons are right up there on my list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba Tibor has a new favorite as of 21:20 on Jul 24, 2013 |
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Tibor posted:What? Why? I don't think the creator of that roller coaster was advocating its use, it was just a piece of art. And even if he was, it's meant to be painless and humane, in theory, as well as a matter of personal choice. Why do you think he should be murdered? I was kidding, I don't really think he should be murdered.  I did have a laugh as I pictured him presenting his model to a King and the outraged monarch having him forcibly strapped into one of the little cars. "But your highness, I only sought to please you! Wheeee *gurgle*"
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Nuclear weapons are both terrifying and awesome. I'm sure this was posted here but http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/ has a lot of info on them.
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Dr Scoofles posted:I was kidding, I don't really think he should be murdered. "What is this? A rollercoaster for ants?"
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Dr Scoofles posted:I was kidding, I don't really think he should be murdered. And there are actual historical precedents for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_bull . He could have gotten the Phalaris treatment!
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TerryLennox posted:And there are actual historical precedents for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_bull . He could have gotten the Phalaris treatment!  Dr Scoofles posted:I immediately thought of another crazy execution device/art work thing called the Brazen Bull
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We're through the looking glass, people. Seeing as we're on the torture topic, here's one of my 'favorites' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denailing The article goes into some unsettling detail and has a rather... gleeful tone. Wikipedia posted:Denailing—the forcible extraction of the fingernails or toenails—was a favorite method of medieval torture that retains its popularity in the 21st century. It is both efficient and extremely effective as a form of torture and, in modern use, causes limited physical injury: while brute-force tearing out can and does damage the cuticles, surgical extraction without anesthesia does not. It goes on in this vein, assessing the different variants of it for efficacy and frankly it reads like it was written by a huge fan of ripping people's fingernails out.
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I have had a toenail ripped out (accidentally), and I can attest that it is not at all pleasant. Content: I grew up in North Alabama, and while I never attended a Snake handling church, I know they existed not far from where I lived. I find the whole concept ridiculous and ridiculously dangerous. When I went to college, one of my professors found out where I grew up. He asked me what I knew about snake handling churches. I told him that I was a United Methodist, and we only handled snakes once a month, after Holy Communion. 
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pkticker posted:I have had a toenail ripped out (accidentally), and I can attest that it is not at all pleasant. Oh wow, back in highschool we learned specific limits to freedom of religion as an example of the whole "your freedom ends where your fist hits my face" concept, and one of them was the "no venomous snakes" laws. I could never figure out why the hell that would even ever come up at the time and never really figured it out until reading that page.
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Mister Adequate posted:We're through the looking glass, people. Well obviously the author wasn't keeping a Neutral Point of View.  For content: Virgin boy eggs. People voluntarily eat these things.
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Dr Scoofles posted:I immediately thought of another crazy execution device/art work thing called the Brazen Bull The funniest part about the brazen bull inventor is that he didn't actually die in the bull. They let him out, he thought he was going to be rewarded, but then the king threw him off a hill and killed him.
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Pentaro posted:Well obviously the author wasn't keeping a Neutral Point of View. I've been to Dongyang around pee egg time. My local friend insisted that only old, backwards people in the city eat them, but I'm pretty sure you can't have a citywide boy pee collection drive without more than a few old bumpkins being in on it.
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Speaking of pee and ripping off fingernails. Certain Aboriginal tribes in Australia practiced various rites of passage that included ripping off the fingernails (to be worthy of handling certain sacred objects) and sub-incision, which is pretty much slicing the penis like a hot dog. I don't believe there are any tribes that still practice these things though. So very very very   for user submitted photo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subincision
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang posted:Speaking of pee and ripping off fingernails. Certain Aboriginal tribes in Australia practiced various rites of passage that included ripping off the fingernails (to be worthy of handling certain sacred objects) and sub-incision, which is pretty much slicing the penis like a hot dog. I don't believe there are any tribes that still practice these things though. I...how can you...I don't want to think about this. 
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Khazar-khum posted:I...how can you...I don't want to think about this. Well I was looking at this thread on my phone and couldn't see the picture on wikipedia well so GIS'd it....... Don't
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I always think about that stuff when I microwave a Zweigles and it pops open.
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:I always think about that stuff when I microwave a Zweigles and it pops open. I like to poke holes lengthways in franks I'm boiling so they split all, like, midsagittal. It's fun.
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:I always think about that stuff when I microwave a Zweigles and it pops open. Aw, dude. 
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After looking at penile subincision, I decided to follow a link to BME. I... http://wiki.bme.com/index.php?title=Genital_Bisection The mind works in mysterious ways.
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Khazar-khum posted:After looking at penile subincision, I decided to follow a link to BME. Why....why would it be discolored green? 
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