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Turncoat Mommy posted:You're bumming me out man, spvp mode is the best game mode, you should try it. I don't think it's the sPvP game mode itself that people don't like. It's the monotonous maps and conquest-only game type, and the weird total seperation from the rest of the game that's really lame. Fixes sound like they're coming for all of that, which is great. But you really shouldn't be surprised that it's people's least favourite game mode of the 3.
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Traxus IV posted:And thank gently caress for that, poo poo's getting kind of ridiculous lately. Coming back to GW2 as an ex-City of Heroes player I am getting serious Nemesis vibes from everything. "Everything is a Nemesis plot" was a recurring joke back there... 
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WarLocke posted:Coming back to GW2 as an ex-City of Heroes player I am getting serious Nemesis vibes from everything. "Everything is a Nemesis plot" was a recurring joke back there... I'll be honest, I'd be hype for an IP crossover event where Arachnos invades Tyria, but I guess Nemesis would do too. Turn Divinity's Reach into a Recluse's Victory map, make it happen ANet
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Have we truly reached the point that no Scarlet is something to be celebrated?quote:Don't get too excited. If the Reactor Fractal is any indication, she's responsible for the shock pylons around the map. Let's hope they lead to her death then.
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Erdricks posted:I know a number of our bigger and non-us based guilds pulled double shifts lmbo
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Aleph Null posted:Don't get too excited. If the Reactor Fractal is any indication, she's responsible for the shock pylons around the map. Honestly I feel pretty confident that seasonal stuff like Halloween, Wintersday, and SAB will remain Scarlet-free. They were around before she was and if they intend to keep those events around without having to retool them overmuch every year then they'd likely have to make them separate from any living story nonsense going on at the time. Now having said that I will begin the countdown until it is revealed that Scarlet is the reason Tyria has seasons at all, let alone seasonal content. She is such an incredible puppetmaster you guys look she's behind the Holiday Alliance of plastic spiders and renegade toys oh snaaaaaap
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Kinda expected the reward to be bad, the dolyak was enough for me to do it though.Erdricks posted:For what it's worth, the consensus on blackgate was that we would get five greens / blues. I know a number of our bigger and non-us based guilds pulled double shifts, and none of them did it for the rewards. It's kind of lame, but winning for the sake of beating everyone else was a much more powerful motivating force. What's a double shift in wvw terms. CLAM DOWN posted:I don't think it's the sPvP game mode itself that people don't like. It's the monotonous maps and conquest-only game type, and the weird total seperation from the rest of the game that's really lame. Fixes sound like they're coming for all of that, which is great. But you really shouldn't be surprised that it's people's least favourite game mode of the 3. Pretty much, spvp may be fun but after awhile you get bored of the same stuff again and again. It's like if CoF was the only dungeon.
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CLAM DOWN posted:I don't think it's the sPvP game mode itself that people don't like. It's the monotonous maps and conquest-only game type, and the weird total seperation from the rest of the game that's really lame. Fixes sound like they're coming for all of that, which is great. But you really shouldn't be surprised that it's people's least favourite game mode of the 3. I understand if esports mode isn't peoples thing or they don't like the implementation, for some reason being a horrible horrible person for playing it is something else. The map things don't bother me since the appeal is fighting different teams and people with different builds and the map is more or less the setting.
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Double shift is literally playing 12-16 hours per day. Seriously. And when I say "playing" I often mean standing in a tower refreshing siege, buying upgrades and shouting to team/map about incoming. Sometimes it's leading a PUG zerg to paper towers/keeps but it could also be chaperoning Dolyaks. It is a sad, sad thing. edit: Mommy, the truth is, I'm just bad at sPvP. It also gives me anxiety and makes my neck and back stiff and my eyes burn because I get too into it. 
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Turncoat Mommy posted:I understand if esports mode isn't peoples thing or they don't like the implementation, for some reason being a horrible horrible person for playing it is something else. People call people names in MMOs all the time, calling someone horrible for enjoying sPvP is something you should either embrace or ignore. Don't take it seriously and react to it. The map and game type determines so much more than that, it's far more than "just the setting". It determines how you'll play, strategies, builds, overall flow and fun, popularity, everything. Slipknot Hoagie posted:Double shift is literally playing 12-16 hours per day. Seriously. And when I say "playing" I often mean standing in a tower refreshing siege, buying upgrades and shouting to team/map about incoming. That owns, people actually do this.
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I treat sPvP the same way I treat a game like TF2. I play it to jump into a game and kill some dudes for a bit, then I go gently caress off and do something else. Same with WvW, Dungeons, JPs, or any part of this game. Hopping around to the different aspects of the game is why I'm still playing this game. It's nice to see there is going to be different sPvP maps introduced sometime in the future because capture point can get stale after a while. I think they may even get some of the hardcore pvp folk from other games to transfer over if certain modes are successful and decently balanced. They'll need to utilize the PvE vs PvP separation a bit more at some point which I think they've said in the past they don't like doing. I could be wrong, generally the PvP livestreams annoyed me in the past because the pro dudes would just ramble on about their favorite class and how they thought of a really neat idea to buff their class and make it more inline with whatever class they hate to fight. With the way the one time use skins work now it seems like they may use the "Convert to PvP" button to send it to a universal game mode locker! I can only dream that someday this happens so I can spend all my money collecting gear sets for Achievement points. God help my wallet if this ever becomes a thing.
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I've seen people say that it's not a problem, but I've repeatedly encountered points on my characters where I have done all the content at-level and then the next level of content is tougher than I can take. Plenty of discussion I've seen on the topic has praised that the game is always at-level with you but I don't find that the case and I'm not sure what I can do to remedy it other than play some severely ill equipped WvW.
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:Double shift is literally playing 12-16 hours per day. Seriously. And when I say "playing" I often mean standing in a tower refreshing siege, buying upgrades and shouting to team/map about incoming. Sometimes it's leading a PUG zerg to paper towers/keeps but it could also be chaperoning Dolyaks. It is a sad, sad thing. This is music to my ears because it only confirms exactly what I expected.  Dark_Swordmaster posted:I've seen people say that it's not a problem, but I've repeatedly encountered points on my characters where I have done all the content at-level and then the next level of content is tougher than I can take. Plenty of discussion I've seen on the topic has praised that the game is always at-level with you but I don't find that the case and I'm not sure what I can do to remedy it other than play some severely ill equipped WvW. All content at your level across all maps? The way xp is doled out, exploring and finishing events gives the most overall xp. Supplementing levels with WvW is one thing but you're going to be standing in the middle of oncoming traffic if you don't play cautiously with a zerg since people can rally off your body. Delacroix fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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CLAM DOWN posted:People call people names in MMOs all the time, calling someone horrible for enjoying sPvP is something you should either embrace or ignore. Don't take it seriously and react to it. The most truly baffling WvW behavior I have seen is scouting. Scouting pretty much amounts to doing what I put in that gif I posted for anywhere from 15 minutes to hours on end. It's extremely valuable for obvious reasons, to be able to differentiate between white swords on your tower to someone saying "20 shitbags on X tower, 3 rams down door @ 50%" or to deter 5 randoms from ninjaing your stuff, but jesus christ I'd rather take a bullet.
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Gross, they're changing Arcane Wave to be a range targeted skill, while the new heal is PBAoE. Also, no heals will be instant after all. Also every new heal skill is 25 skill points to unlock across the board (all modes).
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sPVP would be loads better if it had more map/game types, unfucked itself from trying to be an E-SPORT, did I mentioned more map/game types? Also pretend I empty quoted everything Clam said, it's pretty much bang on. Hell even if I just gained XP for my alts via sPVP I'd probably play it a whole lot more vs. what I currently do which is not play it at all.
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:I've seen people say that it's not a problem, but I've repeatedly encountered points on my characters where I have done all the content at-level and then the next level of content is tougher than I can take. Plenty of discussion I've seen on the topic has praised that the game is always at-level with you but I don't find that the case and I'm not sure what I can do to remedy it other than play some severely ill equipped WvW. Do everything. I'm not being flippant, the game levelling experience seems to be based on you doing everything! Do some dungeons, do some crafting, do some WvW (gear does not remotely matter, get in a zerg and you're fine in whites). You will always outpace whatever level content you're at if you mix and match your gameplay.
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gandlethorpe posted:Gross, they're changing Arcane Wave to be a range targeted skill, while the new heal is PBAoE. Also, no heals will be instant after all. Also every new heal skill is 25 skill points to unlock across the board (all modes). Wait, you have to use skill points to unlock it in sPVP?
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gandlethorpe posted:Gross, they're changing Arcane Wave to be a range targeted skill, while the new heal is PBAoE. Also, no heals will be instant after all. Also every new heal skill is 25 skill points to unlock across the board (all modes). Goddamnit. Just...goddamnit.
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Here's Blackgate's secret to WvW domination, besides having a large EU/SEA playerbase - we have a spreadsheet and guilds sign up for slots to ensure maximum coverage. And yes, much of it is just refreshing siege and informing the commanders about enemy movements - not the most exciting work to do. But people here really like WvW, really like to win, and at least aren't assholes about it, so whatever floats their boat.
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Erdricks posted:we have a spreadsheet and guilds sign up for slots to ensure maximum coverage God, if Maguuma ever does that SFD will troll the poo poo out of it.
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CLAM DOWN posted:God, if Maguuma ever does that SFD will troll the poo poo out of it. Yeah gently caress those guys for playing how they like.
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gandlethorpe posted:Yeah gently caress those guys for playing how they like. This but unironically
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Tomes are apparently 1,500 glory+20 silver. Is 1,500 glory easy to get?
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Erdricks posted:Here's Blackgate's secret to WvW domination, besides having a large EU/SEA playerbase - we have a spreadsheet and guilds sign up for slots to ensure maximum coverage. And yes, much of it is just refreshing siege and informing the commanders about enemy movements - not the most exciting work to do. But people here really like WvW, really like to win, and at least aren't assholes about it, so whatever floats their boat. Boat-floating aside, that sounds tedious and awful and it's kind of a shame that such things are necessary in order to do well in WvW.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1s9xpo/pvp_developer_livestream_notes/quote:Blog Q&A They said not to break down your pvp collection for luck as there will be some kind of new "system" and to keep building your collection.
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Alteisen posted:Tomes are apparently 1,500 glory+20 silver. Well, unless they change how much you get per match, the rewards currently stand at: 125 for playing, +75 for a win, +25 if you volunteered for autobalance*, and +5 per top player award you picked up. If the match is shorter than 8:30 or so, the rewards scale down a bit. *Kicks in regardless if you got picked for it, if there was more than one volunteer, and if you do get picked you also automatically get the win bonus regardless of whether or not your new team wins. Yes, there is indeed incentive to smash the other team so badly that they start ragequitting. Also only applies to hotjoin, Single/Team Queue don't autobalance. Edit: Oh, and lest I forget, you can pop Glory Boosters for 50% more Glory for an hour; you'll get one for free whenever you finish the daily, and I believe another 10 for the monthly. Also a chance to pick them up in spvp chests, I think. They tend to pile up if you don't burn them. Unoriginal One fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Dec 7, 2013 |
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quote:Q: Gold rate? A: It is not our intent to make PvP a good place to farm. We are looking at average gold rates similar to those playing PvE. UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I would really love to know Anets perceptions of how each facet of the game (including sub-sections like dungeons, fractals, champ trains, open world bosses) stack up in terms of how lucrative they are for gold. Secret Sweater fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Dec 7, 2013 |
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Alteisen posted:Tomes are apparently 1,500 glory+20 silver. If you do the pvp daily every day you should have it before the end of the third day. Earlier if you get lucky. So...they're removing glory, but adding a vendor to buy stuff from for glory...what?
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Those changes sound pretty neat, looking forward to tinkering in sPvP. Perfect timing with the goon sPvP interest guild! 
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Alteisen posted:Tomes are apparently 1,500 glory+20 silver. Yep. Especially if you have boosters. (daily gives a booster) SlothBear posted:If you do the pvp daily every day you should have it before the end of the third day. Earlier if you get lucky. Temporary.
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gandlethorpe posted:Yeah gently caress those guys for playing how they like. You're no fun!!
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Oh okay, so dump all your glory on this stuff while you can sorta thing. Alright.
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I like WvW because people playing it allow me to get richer mining orichalcum twice per node!
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Alteisen posted:Tomes are apparently 1,500 glory+20 silver. Assuming 50% win rate, about 8 hotjoin games more or less. Solo queue would take less games.
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2nd place bronze WvW chest reward (which, I believe, are markedly better then last place gold league  )Mini Dolyak 4 golds 7 greens 1 taste of liquid WvW 9 tomes of knowledge, drat 5 scrolls of knowledge 500 luck 100 dragonite 100 empyreal  edit: and 34 pieces of cold hard copper HaroldofTheRock fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Dec 7, 2013 |
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A permanent reminder for our cheevo-panes.
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