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100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Nocheez posted:

Don't forget that he rolled over his negative-equity bike into that new one. He already had a bike, but had to get one of the most expensive sport-bikes on the market because ___________.
Man you could not pay me to get on a Ducati, those things are just too goddamn powerful I would probably kill myself within a week.

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Sudden Infant Def Syndrome
Oct 2, 2004

Delta-Wye posted:

Back home it was fishing. When a kid just out of highschool makes 60k in a week, it tends to disappear quickly.

Which sucks when you're out of work most of the year and don't plan ahead for it :shrug:

60k a week?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

60k in a week.

But they only work one week a year.

It's one of those jobs where you make a shitton of money and people will tell you "Oh yeah do that for like five years and then retire forever!"... and that never happens, because welp, there's 60 grand in your bank account, what's a $15 000 truck?

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre
I know some people that would buy 1 year annuities that paid weekly with their fish money because they couldn't not spend it.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

It's really irresponsible obviously, but it's not hard to see why it happens. If you're not working the other 51 weeks a year, what the hell are you doing with your time? Self improvement and learning are for pussies.

Where do I get one of these fishing jobs?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Not as dramatic as fishing, but there's plenty of merchant seamen who take exactly the amount of vacation that'll allow them to spend the year's income, and if for some reason they get laid off early, welp, panic time. Most of them also subscribe to the idea that if you work more than a certain amount of overtime, you loose money because of taxes.

My favorite was the guy who had a gigantic house, gigantic jet ski, two huge diesel trucks, a brand new pool and what have you, but had to work 9+ months a year to be able to afford it (IE, he was working 270+ days a year, if you work 5 days a week without any holidays you'll work 260). Oh and he'd put everything in his wife's name, because she was a native and thus... taxes I guess.

The wife he spends at most 3 1/2 months per year with.

I have not heard of the guy in four, five years (and I have no interest in seeking him out) so there's no punch line, sorry.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

NancyPants posted:

Where do I get one of these fishing jobs?

IIRC openings come up pretty regularly as people get injured and die.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

LorneReams posted:

IIRC openings come up pretty regularly as people get injured and die.

So lots of opportunities then!

Lowness 72
Jul 19, 2006
BUTTS LOL

Jade Ear Joe
Make sure to apply after knocking up your wife. Don't get life insurance.

Folly
May 26, 2010

Lowness 72 posted:

Make sure to apply after knocking up your wife. Don't get life insurance.

And you'd still be making a better decision than that guy with the motorcycle and the pregnant wife.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

NancyPants posted:

It's really irresponsible obviously, but it's not hard to see why it happens. If you're not working the other 51 weeks a year, what the hell are you doing with your time? Self improvement and learning are for pussies.

Where do I get one of these fishing jobs?

Southern Alaska in the 80s. Sorry! Used to be a great way to flip cars; sell them a jalopy when they get back, and then buy another for half off a month before the season when everyone has spent their money. Simply rinse and repeat.

Delta-Wye fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Dec 18, 2013

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
Car forums are another good place to find "bad with money":

sarahsideways RE: Why did you buy a Sonic? posted:

Funny story actually... had a civic.. hated it.. went to trade it in for a Nissan titan (i know riiiight) and the dealer wanted me to botch some info so I said no thanks... ended up hitting a jackpot (1500 not too shabby) at the casino one saturday morning so I said ... I want a new car.. Drove to the Chevy dealership to look through the used lots (honestly wanted a sentra :rolleyes:) couldnt find anything. Was about to leave when the sales guys yells WAIT HAVE YOU SEEN THE SONIC? I was all the whatic? He brings it around from the back (just shipped in, first one the dealer had) test drove it (at night) loved it, bought it and as I was driving home realized it had manual windows.

Trust and believe, if I would have known all the **** I could have had in it (cough TURBO cough) I would have it, but since I had no clue (due to it being brand new and never seen by me before) I ended up with my little 1.8 manual window bucket :D

Kudos to anyone who actually read all that :dancingbanana:
That's right, they bought a car completely on a whim after they won a small jackpot at a casino without doing any research on it at all. They didn't even realize it had manual windows until they had brought it home!

tiananman
Feb 6, 2005
Non-Headkins Splatoma

Mr.Radar posted:

Car forums are another good place to find "bad with money":

That's right, they bought a car completely on a whim after they won a small jackpot at a casino without doing any research on it at all. They didn't even realize it had manual windows until they had brought it home!

haha, they traded in one of the best rated compact cars for an early model sub compact...


Again, not just a bad financial decision - also a bad general decision.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
I worked in sub-prime vehicle finance. Few, if any, of the customers I spoke with had ever even bothered to look at their contract. The dealers were likely telling them where to sign then and then flipping the paper over so they couldn't review it. When I called to go over their payment plan and ask them some questions, most customers would inform me that the dealer was holding onto the contract for them until their financing application was completed. None of them saw anything odd about this.

It wasn't uncommon to see $500.00 tag & title/documentation fees, $300.00 freight charges to move the vehicle to the front of the lot, or $900.00 mark ups on the GPS units we sold the dealers at cost and were required by our contract.

The worst were the first time motorcycle riders. I'd never ride one myself and I don't care for them, but I did learn that if you want to ride one you get one in the 250cc range, maybe 600cc if you're feeling adventurous. We had rich idiot teenagers with no credit who didn't see their 400 per month insurance premium (only for property damage, mind you) as a giant clue from their insurance agency that their 1000cc bike might get them killed.

We had one guy call in crying because, despite the advice of all of his rider friends, he let the salesman talk him into switching from a 550cc beginner crotch rocket to a 1750cc monster for his first bike. He was literally laughed out of his training class when the instructor told him he would not survive the training course. As far as I know the bike is still in his garage and he's still paying insurance premiums and jacked up financing fees for a vehicle he's too afraid to ride.

E: Grammar

cumshitter fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Dec 19, 2013

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

RommelMcDonald posted:

We had one guy call in crying because, despite the advice of all of his rider friends, he let the salesman talk him into switching from a 550cc beginner crotch rocket to a 1750cc monster for his first bike. He was literally laughed out of his training class when the instructor told him he would not survive the training course. As far as I know the bike is still in his garage and he's still paying insurance premiums and jacked up financing fees for a vehicle he's too afraid to ride.

E: Grammar

Which is odd, because when I did rider ed, the course provided low powered dirt bikes for everyone to train on. Having someone bring their own motorcycle to a class to teach them how to ride a motorcycle seems like backwards thinking.

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

Volmarias posted:

Which is odd, because when I did rider ed, the course provided low powered dirt bikes for everyone to train on. Having someone bring their own motorcycle to a class to teach them how to ride a motorcycle seems like backwards thinking.

I was thinking the same thing. It scared the poo poo out of me that people who had never shot a gun before were in my CHL class, and all they had was the instructor telling them once how the basic mechanics of loading and firing worked before we were actually using them during the shooting test. How had they not gotten a friend or paid a trainer before to show them the basic operation of an extremely deadly item that was completely foreign to them??!?

Granted, the instructor had crazily draconian rules on how we handled the guns, magazines, and ammunition during and between firing sections to try and minimize any mishandling or accidents, but I was half expecting some dumbass to turn around, weapon in hand and sweeping the entire firing line, if they had a question or malfunction with the gun.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Volmarias posted:

Which is odd, because when I did rider ed, the course provided low powered dirt bikes for everyone to train on. Having someone bring their own motorcycle to a class to teach them how to ride a motorcycle seems like backwards thinking.

Thats how mine was. There's a second, advanced course you can take that you use your own bike, at least at the place I went to.

One of the lessons requires you to dump your bike on purpose though so gently caress that.

100 HOGS AGREE fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Dec 19, 2013

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Most of our customers had no training at the time that they bought it, according to our in-house insurance guy. I assumed it was normal to have the bike first and then get the training.

DEMAG
Aug 14, 2003

You're it.

Volmarias posted:

Which is odd, because when I did rider ed, the course provided low powered dirt bikes for everyone to train on. Having someone bring their own motorcycle to a class to teach them how to ride a motorcycle seems like backwards thinking.

The class offered by the Army MWR office has you bring your own bike.

OneWhoKnows
Dec 6, 2006
I choo choo choooose you!

tiananman posted:

Right after they get pregnant too. A high-end sports bike after you get pregnant. It's like his wife wants to be a single mom.

These people aren't just making bad financial decisions, they're making bad everything decisions.

I sold my GTO and motorcycles when my wife got pregnant last year... apparently I should have gotten another bike.

MrKatharsis
Nov 29, 2003

feel the bern
I think everybody knows someone like this guy:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4252147274.html

TRD Supercharged Toyota Tacoma 2013 Access Cab 4x4 Automatic - $40000 posted:

odometer: 1300

Spend almost 50k after all parts and labor.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib

MrKatharsis posted:

I think everybody knows someone like this guy:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4252147274.html

TRD Supercharged Toyota Tacoma 2013 Access Cab 4x4 Automatic - $40000 posted: posted:

Email for more questions. Thanks!

Yes, I have a question: can you detail the thought process that went into this?

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

Yes, I have a question: can you detail the thought process that went into this?

Happens all the time in the auto enthusiast circles. Probably a single guy in his mid to late 20s with a really high paying job. Then life changes and the toys have to go. Could have lost his job or is being moved overseas or is getting married or has a kid on the way.

It's a hell of a nice truck and worth the 40K.

MrKatharsis
Nov 29, 2003

feel the bern
But will it have been worth the $8/mile ownership cost?

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

MrKatharsis posted:

But will it have been worth the $8/mile ownership cost?

I don't think that someone selling something with this much effort put into it exactly planned on owning it for like 3 months.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Volmarias posted:

I don't think that someone selling something with this much effort put into it exactly planned on owning it for like 3 months.

Nope, that truck was someones baby and they put a lot of time and money into it, but life happens and sometimes the toys have to go.

My Rhythmic Crotch
Jan 13, 2011

My aunt is one of my favorite people, and this is more of a sad tale than an example of what not to do. She's worked as a state employee for over 30 years, never advancing to become a manager because she enjoyed her job and found a lot of personal satisfaction in doing it well. She has saved an okayish amount, and she does own a condo outright, but it's falling apart around her and the condo dues are atrocious (I believe $300/mo, and this is in a very cheap part of the country). About a year ago, she announced she was retiring, but then ran the numbers and realized she couldn't. In my mind, the problem mostly stems from the 4 cars she's bought in the past 6 or so years, her shopping habits, and the condo. Her story is not nearly as bad as many others, but it bums me out a lot because she doesn't have additional income from a husband or partner, and her condo is bad enough that I can't imagine her being able to stay there long term. She's been trying to convince my parents to let her move in with them... and... yeah. There's a lot of E/N stuff to go along with the financial difficulties, but, it's not a great situation.

At one point, I posted somewhere on SA asking for ideas that could get her out of the condo. None of the ideas were acceptable to her, and I didn't really want to push the issue any harder, so it's been stalled out.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
One thing I've noticed when looking at various motorcycles over the years is that a lot of the more expensive second hand bikes often have very low mileage. It's like people buy these top-end bikes which are costly to insure and maintain, yet hardly ever ride them. What's the point of that?
Status symbols to sit in your driveway and look pretty?

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Partly that and mostly that they buy them on impulse and either can't afford the insurance/upkeep and/or are terrified to ride them.

Harry
Jun 13, 2003

I do solemnly swear that in the year 2015 I will theorycraft my wallet as well as my WoW

Say Nothing posted:

One thing I've noticed when looking at various motorcycles over the years is that a lot of the more expensive second hand bikes often have very low mileage. It's like people buy these top-end bikes which are costly to insure and maintain, yet hardly ever ride them. What's the point of that?
Status symbols to sit in your driveway and look pretty?
Define very low. You aren't going to be commuting to work (in general) or running errands so that knocks out most people's driving.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
Some people only ride their motorcycles when it's above 90 degrees and there's not a chance of a drop of rain. Seems boring to me, since I ride anytime down to about 20 deg F if there's no ice or snow on the roads.

I guess some of them just like having a motorcycle, it's part of their personal brand—especially big chromed up Harley Davidsons. Others are scared to ride. Or, to them, a motorcycle is just a toy they ride 100 miles a year. To me, it's a great way to commute. Can't say it really costs less than a car (aside from fuel and insurance costs, I have a nerd bike with low insurance.) Sadly, since I've started working from home I've only ridden my current bike I traded for in May about 6000 miles (oh, motorcycles hold their value incredibly well too.)

I feel claustrophobic in cars after riding for several years, I can get places faster and it's a fun to go explore dirt roads in the country.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

http://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/1tdae1/considering_chapter_7_could_use_advice_on/

quote:

: I'm 26, have $25k in credit card debt, own my car outright (though it's a bit of a beater w/ +150k miles on it--Kelly Blue Book value of $6500) and have a credit score of 692.
I've managed, over the last 3 years to pay down about 5,000 of my debt, from a high of 30k. But now I'm just barely able to make the minimum payments and still pay my car & health insurance.
....
My job prospects are limited by the fact that I don't have a college degree in my current name.
....
25K in debt (APR %18.99

:stonk:

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

What the gently caress does "in my current name" mean?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

tuyop posted:

What the gently caress does "in my current name" mean?

quote:

ANYWAY, my degree is in my previous name and because my family are major donors to the school, it's a bad move to transfer it into my current name. That really limits my ability to find a job that could reasonably pay off my debt. Also, did I mention my field of interest is sustainable agriculture? Even in the best of situations, that doesn't exactly bring in investment-banking-type money.

HooKars
Feb 22, 2006
Comeon!
Why is that a problem in anyway? What job requires you to show your actual degree? It's a line on your résumé. You usually list any prior names for a background check anyway. Does he think every girl who goes to college, gets married and changes their name is just hosed?

Propaniac
Nov 28, 2000

SUSHI ROULETTO!
College Slice
Is there even a process for "transferring" a degree to a new name?

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Propaniac posted:

Is there even a process for "transferring" a degree to a new name?

That guy has some Jason Bourne poo poo going on in his life that I want no part of. :stare:

tuyop fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Dec 21, 2013

last laugh
Feb 11, 2004

NOOOTHING!

tuyop posted:

That guys has some Jason Bourne poo poo going on in his life that I want no part of. :stare:

He should've chosen a new name with no debt.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
See I can't get a job without changing my degree to my new name because ???

Also I can't change my degree to my new name because my family are donors and thus ???

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StupidSexyMothman
Aug 9, 2010

The only way it sort of makes sense is if the old name is something extremely blackballed in the industry & the options are "Have the necessary degree, but admit I'm related to the people these guys hate & they won't hire me" and "Don't immediately get blackballed, but without the degree have no shot of getting hired".

For content, my wife spent the mortgage money on Christmas presents last night & now we have ~$600 in bills left to pay this month and under $500 to do it.

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