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Taaaaaaarb! posted:Alternatively, a return to funding a decent standard of public education that included comprehensive lessons in social sciences would likely do the goddamn trick. People who don't value accuracy or consistency in argumentation are already predisposed to reject education as a value.
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Let's pretend that the assertion that the modern Democratic party is filled with the same people that wrote the Jim Crow laws instead of the reality that it's the opposite. How does that make the argument that modern Republicans are trying to recreate those laws any less valid?
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Radish posted:Let's pretend that the assertion that the modern Democratic party is filled with the same people that wrote the Jim Crow laws instead of the reality that it's the opposite. How does that make the argument that modern Republicans are trying to recreate those laws any less valid? Democrats bad! More like dumbocrats!!! edit: They are the real racists.
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Radish posted:Let's pretend that the assertion that the modern Democratic party is filled with the same people that wrote the Jim Crow laws instead of the reality that it's the opposite. How does that make the argument that modern Republicans are trying to recreate those laws any less valid? At least, that's my theory, but evidence seems to bear it out.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Most people don't know why racism is bad, just that it is bad. Similarly, they don't actually know why Jim Crow was bad, just that it was bad. Hell, most people don't even know what racism is beyond "the KKK is racist." Racism, to many people, is just a word used to slander your opponents. That's why people talk about the 'race card,' and who is the 'real racists': because they literally have no idea what they're talking about, or why they're talking about it. "I don't hate black people because of their SKIN COLOR, I hate them because of what they do/how they speak/what they wear! See, that's not racist! It's a rational opinion!"
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"Allow me, a white lady, to tell a black man to stop talking about race don'tcha know"
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To truly honor the message of MLK I ask you, know your place, boy.
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Continuing the saga of the Klan Recruitment Flyers. Fairly normal banter and then suddenly ' WHITE GENOCIDE U GUYS'. 
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Mister Bates posted:Continuing the saga of the Klan Recruitment Flyers. Fairly normal banter and then suddenly ' Ah yes, the black-majority state of South Carolina. I wasn't aware that 30% was a bigger number than 69%. I know these idiots never bother checking their facts, but could they at least have the decency ever to not spout off bullshit that can be shot to hell by five seconds' use of any of the billions of Internet-capable devices strewn about the country like blinking, beeping dust?
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:Ah yes, the black-majority state of South Carolina. I wasn't aware that 30% was a bigger number than 69%. Yes, why can't the Klan get their facts straight?
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SedanChair posted:Yes, why can't the Klan get their facts straight? I was referring more to Reggie Stration, the one making that claim on the Internet, which means that anyone who wishes to respond to them is also on the Internet, where their idiotic "fact" is debunked with less effort than it takes to play most video games.
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This Richard Sherman thing is fantastic. So many variants of "I'm not racist, but" coming from the whitest dudes who have never checked their privilege.
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I want Seattle to win the Super Bowl now just to piss off the racists. And if I hear one more person bemoan his lack of "class" I swear to god ...
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PUGGERNAUT posted:I want Seattle to win the Super Bowl now just to piss off the racists. But he's a communication major from Stanford. Why didn't he have an eloquent speech prepared for when he made the final play? Obviously these black athletes are HIGH on AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
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Phone posted:This Richard Sherman thing is fantastic. So many variants of "I'm not racist, but" coming from the whitest dudes who have never checked their privilege. I'm a Seahawks fan (see avatar) but some of the Sherman stuff is insane. Even my facebook feed referred to him as a "classless thug" or a "crazy black man." A person on twitter said he pushed blacks back 100 years then proceeded to call him the n-word. If any of you want cool facts on Richard Sherman: 1. He graduated with a 4.2 GPA in HS, 2nd in his class, from one of the worst school districts in CA (Compton) 2. He has an MBA from Stanford 3. He hosts celebrity softball games around Seattle to raise money for charities 4. He's never said a cuss-word in a post-game interview 5. He makes the league minimum in salary right now (granted he's going to get a pretty big pay raise) Seriously, call people out if they're making racist comments. People don't like the connotation of being racist, so they need to realize what they're saying is really dumb.
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Mister Bates posted:Continuing the saga of the Klan Recruitment Flyers. Fairly normal banter and then suddenly ' Oh man I was reading that thinking 'oh well that's a crazy flyer but thank goodness your friends are all laughing at how stupid it is and making some good jokes' and then in comes "WELL ACTUALLY WHITE PEOPLE ARE VICTIMS"
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Phone posted:This Richard Sherman thing is fantastic. So many variants of "I'm not racist, but" coming from the whitest dudes who have never checked their privilege. If I was going to the Superbowl, I would be the biggest smuggest shitheel you've ever seen. He loving earned the right to boast, and if a white player did it literally no one would bat an eye. Perfect example - towards the end of the regular season Tom Brady was caught on live mic saying "That call is loving bullshit!" after a game and nobody cared. As it should be, no one should care at all about what football players say, but suddenly they care a lot when it gives them an excuse to otherize black people.
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I just want to know how these people learn their history. Or just their facts in general. Do they literally just look up random things on the internet without studying the context of them at all? In fact, I would love to see one of these people write a history paper.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:People who don't value accuracy or consistency in argumentation are already predisposed to reject education as a value. Gee, now why is that? 
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Sir Rolo posted:
Technically accurate, if by liberal the author means "Liberal", i.e. Republicans.
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PARTY OF LINCOLN! And the party who's members want secession.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:PARTY OF LINCOLN! Just use this:  The img tag just makes it look even more like the hurried image macro most of these people put out.
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Dyz posted:I just want to know how these people learn their history. Or just their facts in general. Do they literally just look up random things on the internet without studying the context of them at all? They learn their history in a way that is very similar to to the way they pick up those delightful image macros, I imagine.
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WampaLord posted:If I was going to the Superbowl, I would be the biggest smuggest shitheel you've ever seen. He loving earned the right to boast, and if a white player did it literally no one would bat an eye.  If he'd been white, him claiming to be the greatest would be acceptable. If he wasn't so loud about being the greatest, he'd be lauded for being humble. If he wasn't the greatest, he'd be written off as a buffoon. But because he's black, talented, and knows it, he's a thug and a threat to white superiority.
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Jeedy Jay posted:They learn their history in a way that is very similar to to the way they pick up those delightful image macros, I imagine. Yeah the Tea Party, and far right wingers in general, is a group of people who's entire historical knowledge and argumentative databases are based solely on loving image macros from Facebook.
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darthbob88 posted:I like this article from Deadspin on the subject, which can probably be summed up with this image, and the addendum "Pick Two".  They suspended him from boxing, (almost) put him away for draft dodging (because it went against his muslim beliefs), but he's still the greatest. Dyz fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jan 22, 2014 |
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Slate has a fairly good article on the controversy by Seth Stevenson. Basically, Sherman is a skilled, intelligent, successful player, who at the particular moment of his comments was still being kind of a dick. Muhammad Ali is an apt comparison- incredible sportsman, highly skilled, worked to promote social justice, sometimes a dick.
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I like Sherman (I loved him when he made that tip) but when he started going off I just thought "Oh Richard, how...un-Cascadian of you."
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SedanChair posted:Ohohoho just you wait until they find out about Russell's wife. Well, Russell's one of the good ones, remember. 
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I think it's funny how if a white athlete gives an interview in jeans and a baggy T-shirt it's no big deal, he's just wearing comfy clothes after a big game. If a black athlete wears the same clothes he's perceived as a gangster.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I think it's funny how if a white athlete gives an interview in jeans and a baggy T-shirt it's no big deal, he's just wearing comfy clothes after a big game. Black athletes get poo poo for wearing nice suits for post game interviews, too. Makes them "flamboyant" or whatever alternative to the u-word you prefer.
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Mellow Seas posted:Black athletes get poo poo for wearing nice suits for post game interviews, too. Makes them "flamboyant" or whatever alternative to the u-word you prefer. Black athletes get poo poo completely regardless of what they do, and if you point this out to the people giving them poo poo, you're the racist in that conversation as far as they're concerned.
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Mister Bates posted:Black athletes get poo poo completely regardless of what they do, and if you point this out to the people giving them poo poo, you're the racist in that conversation as far as they're concerned. I wonder whether people who do this secretly know they're acting racist and are scrambling for justification, or if they honestly believe what they're saying due to a "fish have no word for water" situation.
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http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-word-thug-was-uttered-625-times-on-tv-yesterday-1506098319 Not since Trayvon Martin has the word "thug" been thrown around so liberally.
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UtinniOnTheRocks posted:Well, Russell's one of the good ones, remember. Hahaha well that approach just backfired thanks to Sherman 
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Phone posted:http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-word-thug-was-uttered-625-times-on-tv-yesterday-1506098319 Emphasis mine; I wonder what would happen if exactly those words were said to a fundagelical right-winger   
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Phone posted:http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-word-thug-was-uttered-625-times-on-tv-yesterday-1506098319 This is actually one of the few time I'm glad I read the comments on an article about racism in the media. quote:moveslikerichards2 Its nice when people with actual information show up.
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