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WIFEY WATCHDOG: Jun 25, 2012; Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.

I had sex about 2 hours ago. Though at this point I thinking I'm reverting to my virginal state it's been so long.

# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:32

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# ? May 14, 2024 22:26

serious norman: Dec 13, 2007; im pickle rick!!!!

Tokyo Sex Whale posted:

Have you tried loving

It is overrated though. Realtalk

# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:56

tote up a bags: Jun 8, 2006; die stoats die

I'm having sex right now but I can't shake this virgin feeling... tips??

# ? Apr 7, 2014 01:52

fabergay egg: Mar 1, 2012; it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'

Guys I know how you feel, it is truly something awful. It's been nearly a week-5 days, in fact-since I had sex, and the feelings of worthlessness and rejection have nearly overcome me. Thankfully I will probably get to have sex nearly every day this coming week, so I feel that my recovery is imminent.

# ? Apr 7, 2014 03:08

ArbitraryC: Jan 28, 2009; Pick a number, any number; Pillbug

Best Giraffe posted:

Guys I know how you feel, it is truly something awful. It's been nearly a week-5 days, in fact-since I had sex, and the feelings of worthlessness and rejection have nearly overcome me. Thankfully I will probably get to have sex nearly every day this coming week, so I feel that my recovery is imminent.

I'm honestly not sure whether being an adult virgin or bragging about having sex in the virgin thread is more pathetic. One isn't really that bad if you have the right mindset and willingness to improve your situation, the other is just sad.

# ? Apr 7, 2014 05:04

WIFEY WATCHDOG: Jun 25, 2012; Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.

ArbitraryC posted:

I'm honestly not sure whether being an adult virgin or bragging about having sex in the virgin thread is more pathetic. One isn't really that bad if you have the right mindset and willingness to improve your situation, the other is just sad.

Shut up virgin.

# ? Apr 7, 2014 05:21

Ratoslov: Feb 15, 2012; Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Guys, I have transcended all forms of time and space in order to make it so that I am having sex now and at all points in the past and future, as well as everywhere in the universe at once in one omniorgy, but I'm feeling vaguely viginal because I don't think I'm really living up to my sexhaving potential. Will the pain of loneliness ever go away?

# ? Apr 7, 2014 11:57

cname: Jan 24, 2013; by Lowtax

Ratoslov posted:

Guys, I have transcended all forms of time and space in order to make it so that I am having sex now and at all points in the past and future, as well as everywhere in the universe at once in one omniorgy, but I'm feeling vaguely viginal because I don't think I'm really living up to my sexhaving potential. Will the pain of loneliness ever go away?

Which Star Trek episode was that?

# ? Apr 7, 2014 14:13

Sardonik: Jul 1, 2005; if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel

cname posted:

Which Star Trek episode was that?

I don't know, but that episode where Miles O'Brien gets stuck in a mind prison for 20 years is a good metaphor for the virgin mentality trap. :science:

# ? Apr 7, 2014 17:41

Rhymenoserous: May 23, 2008

Honestly there comes a point where getting an escort is ok. You lot are generally well past that point, and almost to the point where the government should buy one for you.

# ? Apr 7, 2014 17:45

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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:

I had sex about 2 hours ago. Though at this point I thinking I'm reverting to my virginal state it's been so long.

I'm not sure if it's possible to completely return to your virgin state but there are stories of people who've had their insecurites grow back

# ? Apr 7, 2014 18:37

Namarrgon: Dec 23, 2008; Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

I'm trans-virgin and I demand acknowledgement for my awkwardness and crippling low self-esteem.

# ? Apr 7, 2014 18:44

Sardonik: Jul 1, 2005; if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel

Basscop posted:

I'm not sure if it's possible to completely return to your virgin state but there are stories of people who've had their insecurites grow back

I've got insecurities to spare if anybody needs some.

# ? Apr 7, 2014 19:01

fabergay egg: Mar 1, 2012; it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'

Rhymenoserous posted:

Honestly there comes a point where getting an escort is ok. You lot are generally well past that point, and almost to the point where the government should buy one for you.

Does the government give you a voucher or what? I can't imagine wanting to go through the trouble of redeeming some annoying voucher for the probably-a-misdemeanor money for it just to work for an awkward goon. Perhaps the government should just give a lonely virgin tax subsidy, and then they can simply pay in cash for our time?

# ? Apr 7, 2014 20:30

12gauge: Feb 24, 2014

Government help? this joke's been done before

https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Marjan_Siklic
http://thatincelblogger.wordpress.com/

# ? Apr 7, 2014 21:01

Benny Harvey: Nov 24, 2012

12gauge posted:

Government help? this joke's been done before

https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Marjan_Siklic
http://thatincelblogger.wordpress.com/

"Last time I had sex was in 2003 and I don't like to admit it but it wasn't free."

# ? Apr 8, 2014 02:54

Okuteru: Nov 10, 2007; Choose this life you're on your own

12gauge posted:

Government help? this joke's been done before

https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Marjan_Siklic
http://thatincelblogger.wordpress.com/

He tried to rape his mom. :stonk:

# ? Apr 8, 2014 02:57

TheSpiritFox: Jan 4, 2009; I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

12gauge posted:

Government help? this joke's been done before

https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Marjan_Siklic
http://thatincelblogger.wordpress.com/

This lead me to a new webpage, where I have started an account, because there are such wonderous things I can pull out of it.

Like this gem.

Why are women obsessed with being raped? posted:

Because they have a messiah complex. Every woman likes to brag about how she was raped and abused because it makes them feel big. So they brag about it and embellish it or just make it all up.

I've read from multiple sources that 1 in 4 women are victims of rape. That's as bad as the NAZIs claiming that 1 in 4 Germans got raped by the Jews, the gypsies, the communists, the democrats and everyone else they hated.

Rape is actually uncommon. And choosing to have sex with a bloke does not automatically mean she was raped, just because his dick was too big / small, whatever.

Anyway, most women think they're the bloody Messiah or the Holy Virgin. So they go out of their way to convince everyone that they're a rape victim so that everyone feels sorry for them. They go on websites and piss everyone off so that they can boast about getting hate mail and death threats.

If women SERIOUSLY didn't want that there are millions of solutions.
Don't go around flashing your arse and tits.
Stop spouting antagonistic crap at everyone.
If you're convinced that its your beauty getting you unwanted attention, wear spots and avoid makeovers and keep away from Top Shop.
Stop jumping on bad boys dicks
Stop getting pissing drunk and expecting everyone to fall over backwards to look after you.
TRY GROWING UP!

Women. Get this. Your attitude STINKS!

More Real Adult Virgins of the Internet on the way. I'm going to spend a while mining quotes.

:Edit:

TheSpiritFox fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Apr 8, 2014

# ? Apr 8, 2014 06:05

Dr. Snuggles: Dec 3, 2012; Tbh some of us (Pick) use this website more than others and I feel that I am unfairly subsidizing picks posting. Unless some kind of fee by post usage is enabled were basically instituting a forced welfare state of posting.

Apparantly assault doesnt exist if i shoot this guy cause his behavior predetermined my actions.

# ? Apr 8, 2014 06:58

DeathSandwich: Apr 24, 2008; I fucking hate puzzles.

TheSpiritFox posted:

This lead me to a new webpage, where I have started an account, because there are such wonderous things I can pull out of it.

Like this gem.

More Real Adult Virgins of the Internet on the way. I'm going to spend a while mining quotes.

:Edit:

You should find some of the more choice quotes and submit them to the F+ podcast for a dramatic reading. They would love to do dramatic readings for this sort of terrible poo poo. Check out episode 114 for a previous incel reading they did. I think it may have already been linked in either this thread or a different thread, but if anyone wants a good laugh, look up episode 7, 46, and 81 for some choice PUA readings also.

# ? Apr 8, 2014 14:47

12gauge: Feb 24, 2014

# ? Apr 8, 2014 15:55

TheSpiritFox: Jan 4, 2009; I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

Most of what I've pulled so far is short form terrible, including a list of man shaming fallacies where if you point out they are angry and it clouds their judgment you are wrong because it's not wrong to be angry at "injustice" and indifference in the face of "evil" is itself evil.

It's amazing how they declare pointing out irrational anger to be ad homenim and then invalidate the opposing view by declaring it evil and indifferent in the same paragraph. I'll post all that when I get home and when I inevitably fish out a dissertation on some guys rape fantasy I'll look up that podcast.

:edit:

TwoWrongsMakeRightIfItLetsMeRapeSomeone.jpg

TheSpiritFox fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Apr 8, 2014

# ? Apr 8, 2014 16:01

ArbitraryC: Jan 28, 2009; Pick a number, any number; Pillbug

Wait is he basically trying to justify rape by saying it's no worse than those sluts not sleeping with him in the first place? What a convenient worldview: If they want to sleep with him, he sleeps with them, if they don't want to sleep with him, he sleeps with them. Either way he gets laid.

# ? Apr 8, 2014 16:23

12gauge: Feb 24, 2014

Yeah, he's justifying rape to himself. In other posts he talks about being addicted to heroin, and killing himself. Does that make it more or less funny?

# ? Apr 8, 2014 16:54

TheSpiritFox: Jan 4, 2009; I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

ArbitraryC posted:

Wait is he basically trying to justify rape by saying it's no worse than those sluts not sleeping with him in the first place? What a convenient worldview: If they want to sleep with him, he sleeps with them, if they don't want to sleep with him, he sleeps with them. Either way he gets laid.

Yeah that's exactly what it is. The incel community started as young men whining, Reddit forever alone basically, all depression all the time. At some point older men got involved, men in their 40s and 50s and I hypothesize that it's from those men, denied the 2.5 kids American fantasy that the violence lines infiltrated.

First saw it in TFL (true forced lonliness) which was ring lead by a 40 something who seethed with hate for women and articulated some very complex and well thought out bat poo poo crazy opinions. Now they are love shys and incels which is just a new label and different players.

Their basic thesis is that sex and relationships are a human right they have been denied. They have become bitter and hateful in their entitlement, these are the kinds of people who write the above and use terms like sexual marketplace and resent men who have sex for taking sec away from them while blaming women for the fact that sec having men can do that in the first place. They basically say that women set the standards which exclude them and some men are just lucky to fit into them and gently caress those guys.

The really tragic thing here is that the core hateful victim complex psychos have a huge surrounding of people with legit problems. If you read any forums with people who have dating issues there are always the ones who either could be datable with some work or people with legitimate issues like anxiety disorders or severe depression that medication and/or therapy could really help with. The ringleaders take these people who could find hope in either help or self improvement and tell them endlessly that it's an external fault and that there is no hope. They can be convincing to 21 year old virgins who have no idea what they're doing.

The more time passes the more it's the same arguments regurgitated by people with less and less life experience. So while the forever alone subreddit maintains a strict "it's not the fault of women we can't get laid, don't air your disgusting rape fantasy here" line there is a growing community of young men with no hope who reinforce and encourage each other and advocate violence who I'm genuinely concerned will spill out of the Internet and start shooting people.

Sorry to get so serious with it, most of it is hilarious and mock worthy, but they have some concerning things.

# ? Apr 8, 2014 17:52

ninjahedgehog: Feb 17, 2011; It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.

TheSpiritFox posted:

Yeah that's exactly what it is. The incel community started as young men whining, Reddit forever alone basically, all depression all the time. At some point older men got involved, men in their 40s and 50s and I hypothesize that it's from those men, denied the 2.5 kids American fantasy that the violence lines infiltrated.

First saw it in TFL (true forced lonliness) which was ring lead by a 40 something who seethed with hate for women and articulated some very complex and well thought out bat poo poo crazy opinions. Now they are love shys and incels which is just a new label and different players.

Their basic thesis is that sex and relationships are a human right they have been denied. They have become bitter and hateful in their entitlement, these are the kinds of people who write the above and use terms like sexual marketplace and resent men who have sex for taking sec away from them while blaming women for the fact that sec having men can do that in the first place. They basically say that women set the standards which exclude them and some men are just lucky to fit into them and gently caress those guys.

The really tragic thing here is that the core hateful victim complex psychos have a huge surrounding of people with legit problems. If you read any forums with people who have dating issues there are always the ones who either could be datable with some work or people with legitimate issues like anxiety disorders or severe depression that medication and/or therapy could really help with. The ringleaders take these people who could find hope in either help or self improvement and tell them endlessly that it's an external fault and that there is no hope. They can be convincing to 21 year old virgins who have no idea what they're doing.

The more time passes the more it's the same arguments regurgitated by people with less and less life experience. So while the forever alone subreddit maintains a strict "it's not the fault of women we can't get laid, don't air your disgusting rape fantasy here" line there is a growing community of young men with no hope who reinforce and encourage each other and advocate violence who I'm genuinely concerned will spill out of the Internet and start shooting people.

Sorry to get so serious with it, most of it is hilarious and mock worthy, but they have some concerning things.

This is actually a pretty good summary of that incel documentary posted a few pages back. You've got the the resentful ones who think they're owed something (the long-haired creep), the clueless, but harmless, who could probably do really well with a little effort (the dude with glasses), and then the people who try to take advantage of both of them (the PUA rear end in a top hat). It fits even better once it's revealed that the PUA is a virgin himself.

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:11

a nast: Mar 29, 2014; by Cyrano4747

Nice piece of fish posted:

Hi, I'm well educated, sociable and friendly, and I'm considered a good (I prefer business casual) dresser by my friends. I cook, and I know about wine. I also work out a ton, am well travelled, speak a slew of languages, and I'm good at small talk.

I'm also a gigantic nerd, but I keep that stuff to myself because 90% of the people I interact with daily would find the things I find interesting boring as hell, or even worse; weird.

if you worry about people thinking you're weird you've already failed

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:14

a nast: Mar 29, 2014; by Cyrano4747

ZergFluid posted:

Nah.

The fedora has essentially become a signal of low sexual market value due to its use as an obvious attempt to get "style" by low sexual market value males. The fedora would not be so offensive if more attractive men wear wearing it.

Women are repulsed by the fedora because of its association with these sexual losers.

that's mostly true

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:15

a nast: Mar 29, 2014; by Cyrano4747

Chairchucker posted:

That might be why you don't like them I guess, but the overwhelming response from this thread at least doesn't fit with your narrative.

it also became a symbol on the internet but most people don't know about the mra pua redditor connotations

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:17

a nast: Mar 29, 2014; by Cyrano4747

abigserve posted:

Any hobby that's not "videogames" will definitely make you more eager to get up in the morning, and it gives you something to talk about with people. Note: the hobby can literally be watching sports and it counts as a hobby.

video games own

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:23

TheSpiritFox: Jan 4, 2009; I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

And to lighten it up, here are some quotes.

Another guy in the rape thread posted:

I don't think the issue is that. Western women want to squander their youth. Giving unbridled access to free handouts increases their over consumption so by the time they're older and want kids, they're unfit to do so. What does such a woman have to offer other than instructions on how to be more over consumptive than her mother? What does such a woman teach her child?

So we have western women wanting to ignore reality. If they want kids when their 30, show it by working with orphan kids and deprived kids now, and make a stable household for having children now, then get pregnant when 30. But if the woman wants to poison her body from over eating and knocking back all good men and frittering her youth at night clubs and slut walking and being a social burden, she has absolutely no business to expect the right to slot into the privileged role of child rearing and a trusting husband. It's just not acceptable.

The privileged role of child rearing and a trusting husband. Because that's what every bitter virgin sees himself as. The ultimate husband material who any woman would be amazingly privileged to have. All you have to do to deserve these guys is focus your entire life on children and make a home for kids and a husband so your husband gets everything he thinks he ever wanted handed to him on a platter.

P.S. Hope you're ok with marital rape, because part of the privileged role of child rearing and a trusting husband is being up for him taking out his enormous store of anger, frustration, and self loathing on you.

Yet another guy in the rape thread posted:

In real life they dress provocatively so that they are as eye catching as possible, like a walking spam message / advert. Their way of dress with their make overs and hi-tech cosmetics and perfumery and revealing scanty dress ware shouts SEX! SEX! CHAT ME UP! YOU'RE NOT A MAN IF YOU DON'T. COME GROPE MY ARSE!

I guess this is why rape occurs. It's not always them who are raped though, but they've jacked up his testosterone levels. Even if a male doesn't consciously look at them, the information goes in. Humans are not bottomless pits of reserve. Emotions can only be suppressed for so long and then, boom!

Ironically it's the noncels who are already getting sex who are most vulnerable to becoming rapists. Every time I've read in the news about a woman's ordeal at the hands of a rapist, it always turns out that the rapist is either married with kids or has multiple girlfriends.

I think it's like if you drive a car you're more likely to crash.

Men(I) cannot help the basic animalistic drive towards sex. Given the right set of circumstances any man(I) will rape someone, and there is nothing that that man(I) can do to help it. Society needs to understand these pressures that men(I) face and make accommodations for men(I) so that we aren't (I'm not) faced with situations which compel me to rape someone.

This next bit is one guy lashing out, surprisingly enough, at other men.

PUA trolls are the biggest manginas on these forums posted:

PUA trolls are the biggest manginas on this forum

I'll take all of you on anytime, anyday, anywhere.

I spent $3000.00 on a PUA bootcamp and practised everything to the word, to the body-langiage, to the vibe, to whatever they taught me, for well into a second year, without any results. I know why, and I've discovered through social observation of various successful and unsuccessful men who have approached women, what the real secrets are about what makes a man good with the ladies, and newsflash you PUA manginas and mofos - it cannot be taught unless you are "natural" or have "it" to begin with.

I've seen through the PUA scam and can blow any of their ridiculous theories out of the water.

I'll smash all you PUA mofos and manginas on here like a guitar or a piece of wood!

::Followed by...::

What's the matter you PUA cowards? you only want to engage me when it suits you? When it's on your terms?

Typical PUA behaviour and deception.

::Followed by...::

I'm giving all the PUAs and their fanboys on the Loveshy Board until Monday 13 August to challenge me in this thread. I'm going to smash your theories like a piece of wood, or some mashed potato. If you are too chicken, or are just plain cowards, or fear me, or just want to challenge me when the time suits you, or only want to challenge me on your terms, then I'll declare myself the victor of this Loveshy Board PUA fanboy war which I declared on you manginas, trolls and cowards when I started this thread.

If you PUA fanboys of the Loveshy Board don't show up for battle, then you forfeit, and I declare myself the winner by default. That would mean that Coby wins (as per usual).

I don't even have a pithy comment. I guess this misdirected rage is better than rape fantasies, maybe...

Poster GirlsHateMyFace posted:

No one here can really match my intellect

I've debated many people here. Anyone who disagrees with me just comes off as a loving moron. No one can match wits with me here. You cannot deconstruct my arguments. You cannot finds flaws because there exist none.

::Followed by...::

You believe that evolutionary sexual selection has nothing to do with inceldom. loving blue pilled moron.

...

I am a narcissist because I am much smarter than almost everyone I meet.\

...

There never was a discussion. I don't engage in this type of buffoonery with uneducated mongrels like you.

::From another topic::

Confused Poster posted:
What does it mean to be blue pilled?

Have you seen the film, The Matrix?

blue pill = blissful ignorance
red pill = harsh reality

I have to admit I have a soft spot for people who use the word "mongrels" in casual conversation. It lets me know your intellect is superior to mine :allears:

And the goddamn motherload. Forums limitations prevent me from coloring the text. It was colored in their post.

The Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics posted:

"Shaming tactics." This phrase is familiar to many Men's Rights Activists. It conjures up the histrionic behavior of female detractors who refuse to argue their points with logic. Yet women are not the only ones guilty of using shaming tactics against men. Male gynocentrists use them, too.

Shaming tactics are emotional devices meant to play on a man's insecurities and shut down debate. They are meant to elicit sympathy for women and to demonize men who ask hard questions. Most, if not all, shaming tactics are basically ad homimem attacks.

Anyway, it might be helpful to categorize the major shaming tactics that are used against men whenever a discussion arises about feminism, men's issues, romance, etc. The following list contains descriptions of shaming tactics, some examples of quotes employing the tactics, and even color-coded aliases for mnemonic purposes. Enjoy.

Charge of Irascibility (Code Red)

Discussion: The target is accused of having anger management issues. Whatever negative emotions he has are assumed to be unjustifiable. Examples:

* "You're bitter!"
* "You need to get over your anger at women."
* "You are so negative!"

Response: Anger is a legitimate emotion in the face of injustice. It is important to remember that passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue.

Charge of Cowardice (Code Yellow)

Discussion: The target is accused of having an unjustifiable fear of interaction with women. Examples:

* "You need to get over your fear."
* "Step up and take a chance like a man!"
* "You're afraid of a strong woman!"

Response: It is important to remember that there is a difference between bravery and stupidity. The only risks that reasonable people dare to take are calculated risks. One weighs the likely costs and benefits of said risks. As it is, some men are finding out that many women fail a cost-benefit analysis.

Charge of Hypersensitivity (Code Blue) - The Crybaby Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of being hysterical or exaggerating the problems of men (i.e., he is accused of playing "Chicken Little"). Examples:

* "Stop whining!"
* "Get over it!"
* "Suck it up like a man!"
* "You guys don't have it as nearly as bad as us women!"
* "You're just afraid of losing your male privileges."
* "Your fragile male ego ..."
* "Wow! You guys need to get a grip!"

Response: One who uses the Code Blue shaming tactic reveals a callous indifference to the humanity of men. It may be constructive to confront such an accuser and ask if a certain problem men face needs to be addressed or not ("yes" or "no"), however small it may be seem to be. If the accuser answers in the negative, it may constructive to ask why any man should care about the accuser's welfare since the favor will obviously not be returned. If the accuser claims to be unable to do anything about the said problem, one can ask the accuser why an attack is necessary against those who are doing something about it.

Charge of Puerility (Code Green) - The Peter Pan Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of being immature and/or irresponsible in some manner that reflects badly on his status as an adult male. Examples:

* "Grow up!"
* "You are so immature!"
* "Do you live with your mother?"
* "I'm not interested in boys. I'm interested in real men."
* "Men are shirking their God-given responsibility to marry and bear children."

Response: It should be remembered that one's sexual history, marital status, parental status, etc. are not reliable indicators of maturity and accountability. If they were, then we would not hear of white collar crime, divorce, teen sex, unplanned pregnancies, extramarital affairs, etc.

Charge of Endangerment (Code Orange) - The Elevated Threat Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of being a menace in some undefined manner. This charge may be coupled with some attempt to censor the target. Examples:

* "You guys are scary."
* "You make me feel afraid."

Response: It may be constructive to point out that only bigots and tyrants are afraid of having the truth expressed to them. One may also ask why some women think they can handle leadership roles if they are so threatened by a man's legitimate freedom of expression.

Charge of Rationalization (Code Purple) - The Sour Grapes Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of explaining away his own failures and/or dissatisfaction by blaming women for his problems. Example:

* "You are just bitter because you can't get laid."

Response: In this case, it must be asked if it really matters how one arrives at the truth. In other words, one may submit to the accuser, "What if the grapes really are sour?" At any rate, the Code Purple shaming tactic is an example of what is called "circumstantial ad hominem."

Charge of Fanaticism (Code Brown) - The Brown Shirts Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of subscribing to an intolerant, extremist ideology or of being devoted to an ignorant viewpoint. Examples:

* "You're one of those right-wing wackos."
* "You're an extremist"
* "You sound like the KKK."
* "... more anti-feminist zaniness"

Response: One should remember that the truth is not decided by the number of people subscribing to it. Whether or not certain ideas are "out of the mainstream" is besides the point. A correct conclusion is also not necessarily reached by embracing some middle ground between two opposing viewpoints (i.e., the logical fallacy of "False Compromise").

Charge of Invirility (Code Lavender)

Discussion: The target's sexual orientation or masculinity is called into question. Examples:

* "Are you gay?"
* "I need a real man, not a sissy."
* "You're such a wimp."

Response: Unless one is working for religious conservatives, it is usually of little consequence if a straight man leaves his accusers guessing about his sexual orientation.

Charge of Overgeneralization (Code Gray)

Discussion: The target is accused of making generalizations or supporting unwarranted stereotypes about women. Examples:

* "I'm not like that!"
* "Stop generalizing!"
* "That's a sexist stereotype!"

Response: One may point out that feminists and many other women make generalizations about men. Quotations from feminists, for example, can be easily obtained to prove this point. Also, one should note that pointing to a trend is not the same as overgeneralizing. Although not all women may have a certain characteristic, a significant amount of them might.

Charge of Misogyny (Code Black)

Discussion: The target is accused of displaying some form of unwarranted malice to a particular woman or to women in general. Examples:

* "You misogynist creep!"
* "Why do you hate women?"
* "Do you love your mother?"
* "You are insensitive to the plight of women."
* "You are mean-spirited."
* "You view women as doormats."
* "You want to roll back the rights of women!!"
* "You are going to make me cry."

Response: One may ask the accuser how does a pro-male agenda become inherently anti-female (especially since feminists often claim that gains for men and women are "not a zero-sum game"). One may also ask the accuser how do they account for women who agree with the target's viewpoints. The Code Black shaming tactic often integrates the logical fallacies of "argumentum ad misericordiam" (viz., argumentation based on pity for women) and/or "argumentum in terrorem" (viz., arousing fear about what the target wants to do to women).

Charge of Instability (Code White) - The White Padded Room Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of being emotionally or mentally unstable. Examples:

* "You're unstable."
* "You have issues."
* "You need therapy."
* "Weirdo!"

Response: In response to this attack, one may point to peer-reviewed literature and then ask the accuser if the target's mental and/or emotional condition can explain the existence of valid research on the matter.

Charge of Selfishness (Code Silver)

Discussion: This attack is self-explanatory. It is a common charge hurled at men who do not want to be bothered with romantic pursuits. Examples:

* "You are so materialistic."
* "You are so greedy."

Response: It may be beneficial to turn the accusation back on the one pressing the charge. For instance, one may retort, "So you are saying I shouldn't spend my money on myself, but should instead spend it on a woman like you ---and you accuse me of being selfish?? Just what were you planning to do for me anyway?"

Charge of Superficiality (Code Gold) - The All-That-Glitters Charge

Discussion: The charge of superficiality is usually hurled at men with regard to their mating preferences. Examples:

* "If you didn't go after bimbos, then ..."
* "How can you be so shallow and turn down a single mother?"

Response: Average-looking women can be just as problematic in their behavior as beautiful, "high-maintanence" women. Regarding the shallowness of women, popular media furnishes plenty of examples where petty demands are made of men by females (viz., those notorious laundry lists of things a man should/should not do for his girlfriend or wife).

Charge of Unattractiveness (Code Tan) - The Ugly Tan Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of having no romantic potential as far as women are concerned. Examples:

* "I bet you are fat and ugly."
* "You can't get laid!"
* "Creep!"
* "Loser!"
* "Have you thought about the problem being you?"

Response: This is another example of "circumstantial ad hominem." The target's romantic potential ultimately does not reflect on the merit of his arguments.

Charge of Defeatism (Code Maroon)

Discussion: This shaming tactic is akin to the Charge of Irascibility and the Charge of Cowardice in that the accuser attacks the target's negative or guarded attitude about a situation. However, the focus is not so much on the target's anger or fear, but on the target's supposed attitude of resignation. Examples:

* "Stop being so negative."
* "You are so cynical."
* "If you refuse to have relationships with women, then you are admitting defeat."
* "C'mon! Men are doers, not quitters."

Response: The charge of defeatism can be diffused by explaining that one is merely being realistic about a situation. Also, one can point out that asking men to just accept their mistreatment at the hands of women and society is the real attitude that is defeatist. Many men have not lost their resolve; many have lost their patience.

Threat of Withheld Affection (Code Pink) - The Pink Whip

Discussion: The target is admonished that his viewpoints or behavior will cause women to reject him as a mate. Examples:

* "No woman will marry you with that attitude."
* "Creeps like you will never get laid!"

Response: This is an example of the logical fallacy "argumentum ad baculum" (the "appeal to force"). The accuser attempts to negate the validity of a position by pointing to some undesirable circumstance that will befall anyone who takes said position. Really, the only way to deal with the "Pink Whip" is to realize that a man's happiness and worth is not based on his romantic conquests (including marriage).

There. I've stickied them. Now you've read them and so have we. We're onto them. We will defuse them. We will laugh at you for using them. Get better material.

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And the coup de gras

Confuscious posted:

Aristotle posted:
Stop being obsessed over a girl. Shes only an illusion in your mind. We are all alone in this universe, whether we connect to someone or not. The connection we feel with them is only a connection in our minds, and thus, we are alone, whether or not we are in a relationship.

Consciousness, as a discrimination between "self" and "other", is an inherently solitary state.

What we know of the other is inference based on limited external cues. All intimacy is incomplete. The gap between two minds can never be fully bridged.

We are all alone, indeed.

Other people are deep black holes which will suck your soul into a cold, lonely oblivion. A cold lonely oblivion absent your favorite things, Mountain Dew, World of Warcraft, and Fleshlights.

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:42

a nast: Mar 29, 2014; by Cyrano4747

there's a rape thread? link me for hte love of god

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:43

12gauge: Feb 24, 2014

TheSpiritFox posted:

who I'm genuinely concerned will spill out of the Internet and start shooting people.

This already happens. I only know about one that said explicitly 'this is why I'm killing people' but I bet it's more common than people realize. Look at the recent American spree shootings. Quite a few of them saw the shooter described as withdrawn, a troubled loner, whatever. There's a common theme of severe alienation from society, and 'can't get laid' is just a minor symptom of that.

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:44

TheSpiritFox: Jan 4, 2009; I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

a nast posted:

that's mostly true

I know a gay dude in Austin that is pretty hot and rocks Fedoras on occasion. He also wears the women's suits that go with it, including heels, though.

a nast posted:

there's a rape thread? link me for hte love of god

http://www.love-shy.com/lsbb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24221

I'm still exploring, but based on the forum rules...

Rule Post posted:

1. Anything may be discussed here nor will anything be censored unless it involves bragging about you loving kids or actually raping someone and you're now wanted by the police. We're not that kind of "creepy older single". Otherwise, it's okay to talk about your secret drug habit and hookers all you like! And if you're going to kill somebody, try and make it look like it's all hypothetical.

There's going to be more than one rape thread.

TheSpiritFox fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Apr 8, 2014

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:45

a nast: Mar 29, 2014; by Cyrano4747

who cares about that, i want a rape thread here on sa

# ? Apr 8, 2014 18:52

Cole: Nov 24, 2004; DUNSON'D

ArbitraryC posted:

I'm honestly not sure whether being an adult virgin or bragging about having sex in the virgin thread is more pathetic. One isn't really that bad if you have the right mindset and willingness to improve your situation, the other is just sad.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha yeah they are definitely comparable.

# ? Apr 9, 2014 02:59

Garrand: Dec 28, 2012; Rhino, you did this to me!

As amazing as the rape thread is, I would like briefly go back to that incelblogger guy.

"Crazy as gently caress posted:

The post explaining why my parents are monsters is yet to come. Still, the crux of it will be described here.
My parents laughed at my problem ever since I was 15. At that age they told me that I will be chased by girls by the time I turn 18. It was a laughable idea that I didn�t believe in and of course it never happened.
They refused to even acknowledge the fact that I had this problem.

If they could understand the problem they would have tried what I call The Prostitute Scam. . In this scam they would have hired a prostitute to live as a tenant in our building and pretend to seduce me. This should have been done when I was 14 or 15 for two crucial reasons- 1. It was necessary for me to lose this phobia as early as possible 2. By the age of 15 I started trying those SMS flerts. It was necessary for me to meet these 3 girls in 2004 experiences with whom I described here for every one of them might have been my salvation.

Let me be clear about one thing- it was essential for things to happen that way and not in any other way. If you did read this long story you should be now know the answer to the question of why it was impossible for me to see a woman I knew was a prostitute � I�d freak out ! I was unable to meet teenage girls in real life until I was 18, do you think I�d be able to see a prostitute?! . This approach would, of course, be risky and expensive. I might have been shocked by her trying to seduce me. Many things could have gone wrong. But it was the only hope for me to evade what happened later.
As for its price no matter how expensive it wouldn�t be as expensive as all the problems I had later because this wasn�t done.

But my parents never did anything like that. Instead the allowed me to live with this life destroying phobia for many years to come. And for that they are responsible. Think about this the next time you defend them. Think about what they did. They allowed me to be frightened of teenage girls. They are child abusers and monsters. Don�t ever forget that.

This guy literally hates his parents because when he was a teenager they wouldn't hire a prostitute to live with them in order to seduce their son.
I'm sure this guy has had plenty of air time on this forum before, but this is the first I've heard of him.

Haha, just a paragraph down on that page

quote:

In fact, therapists could have helped. Of course, their help would not have been what TAC monsters claim it should have been. Let me say a few words about what standard therapy did in my case � IT DID NOTHING.
Therapists were completely unable to understand this problem. They didn�t even classify it as a social phobia (which would also be wrong as the definition of love-shyness clearly differentiates it from a social phobia). They just said it was something I had to deal with on my own. They had no idea how to help me with this at all.

An informed, reasonable male therapist would wing me. An informed, reasonable female therapist would offer me sex. This they never did and I was left to deal with this crippling condition on my own, with disastrous consequences.

And he's also upset that a female therapist didn't offer to gently caress his problems away.

Garrand fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Apr 9, 2014

# ? Apr 9, 2014 04:33

ArbitraryC: Jan 28, 2009; Pick a number, any number; Pillbug

Cole posted:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha yeah they are definitely comparable.

I dunno if I need to preface this with "I've had plenty of sexual partners" to get any credence but I'd generally consider someone who felt the need to brag to a bunch of virgins about their sexual exploits to be way more pathetic than a person who "it just hasn't happened" for whatever reason. I've known plenty of seemingly normal people who still hadn't gotten laid yet in their early 20s (admittedly most did fix this by the end of college), but like that was a super pathetic post. I mean go reread it, the only purpose of that post was to brag in the virgin thread of all places about getting laid.

ArbitraryC fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Apr 9, 2014

# ? Apr 9, 2014 04:43

OMG JC a Bomb!: Jul 13, 2004; We are the Invisible Spatula. We are the Grilluminati. We eat before and after dinner. We eat forever. And eventually... eventually we will lead them into the dining room.

quote:

And if you're going to kill somebody, try and make it look like it's all hypothetical.

If I (Never) Did It: The Blowjay Simpson Story

# ? Apr 9, 2014 06:52

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# ? May 14, 2024 22:26

Cole: Nov 24, 2004; DUNSON'D

ArbitraryC posted:

someone who felt the need to brag to a bunch of virgins about their sexual exploits to be way more pathetic than a person who "it just hasn't happened" for whatever reason.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha please tell me you dont really believe this

# ? Apr 9, 2014 07:00

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