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Mordiceius posted:HAVE SOME TEXT WALL O poo poo! Just gotta keep throwing it. Eventually something will stick!
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CampingCarl posted:[citation needed] for pretty much everything in this strip. I know they will be proved wrong like everything else Muir quotes but I need to know what the root of putting climate denialists in camps and nullifying the borders is. You can't make up pure batshit insane. I don't know about most of that, but the "amendment to limit free speech" is based on a Ted Cruz quote where he (lying through his loving teeth) claimed that a proposed constitutional amendment would limit freedom of speech and freedom of religion because it only explicitly calls out freedom of the press. The reason he's really blatantly lying is because the constitutional amendment in question would grant congress the right to regulate campaign finance (and nothing else.) Naturally, Muir just took Cruz at his word instead of actually checking what the law would do.
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CampingCarl posted:[citation needed] for pretty much everything in this strip. Re: "Democrat Dickinson urges Sarah Palin and Michelle Malkin be killed." Dickinson is a guy who claims he is running for Congress but has not actually filed papers to run. He tweeted about choosing between Palin, Malkin, and Elisabeth Hasselbeck in a game of gently caress-Marry-Kill, which is at best a call to kill Palin or Malkin. Apple Pie Hubbub fucked around with this message at 03:55 on May 25, 2014 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:But that doesn't make a lot of sense because Obama isn't really being 'owned' on that, he's not really clamoring for nor really encouraging at all these deals. ...the comic actually just clicked for me, largely because I didn't realize until someone pointed it out that the other guy was the Chinese Premier. Latuff is a Marxist. The imagery he depicts Putin and the Chinese PM with is bourgeois as gently caress. While he depicts Obama as, well, Obama, it seems like a more flattering depiction (looking at it from a leftist perspective) than the one he gives the other two. It really seems like he's going "god drat it, Obama actually did something not terrible for once and yet it means a grand total of nothing because the Chinese just stepped in instead to keep the bourgeois party going." I might just be PBFing the gently caress out of it, but that's my take.
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ENSENDA CURES MAIL posted:Can someone explain this one? Is the joke just "they poured water on him and now he's not dirty any more"? Krinkle posted:You see it doesn't make sense to waterboard him fifty goddamn times because it's a horrifying act of torture and surely the first two times would have been enough to break anyone. So it wasn't for that reason. It was to clean him up. They really, really cleaned him up, with like fifty goddamn washings. He's the cleanest terr'ist there ever was. That's the joke. Krinkle's got it. We performed horrible torments on this guy, not once, not ten times, not even a hundred times. Nearly 200 times, agents of our nation caused this human man to not just mentally but bodily experience mortal terror, choking and spasming in pure, unmitigated limbic revolt. The image of him cheery and pomaded is one of the darkest jokes ever made. Apple Pie Hubbub posted:Re: "Democrat Dickinson urges Sarah Palin and Michelle Malkin be killed." I wish I could say I was shocked that Muir has no understanding of loving or marrying, but the only surprise here is that he continually humiliates himself far more thoroughly than we ever could.
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King of Solomon posted:The reason he's really blatantly lying is because the constitutional amendment in question would grant congress the right to regulate campaign finance (and nothing else.) So an amendment to limit free speech.
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May 25, 2014 04:06
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JaggerMcDagger posted:2024: By Chris Muir Wait, so people live outside in 2024? JaggerMcDagger posted:On an Ozone Free World? Wouldn't they bake immediately? And I mean, even if they wouldn't, this might be a good time to remind the reader these people are kind of hosed. Of course I'm guessing Rall forgot that fact immediately after writing it.
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:So an amendment to limit free speech. Guess so! It's important to actually know how specifically speech is being limited, though. Also Cruz was still lying through his loving teeth.
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Xenoveritas posted:I don't think that would work in this case, because most people spouting the view that fast food jobs are "for teenagers" believe that that's the way they should be. So even if you can prove that there are people trying to live on fast food jobs, the counter-argument is simple: they shouldn't be, reality be damned. 
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Taerkar posted:WALL O poo poo! I think Muir's actually gotten shittier since early this year. It's developed entirely into Revealingly-Clothed-American*-Woman dispensing right-wing talking points or straight-up conspiracy summaries. The writing has always been awful, but the amount of text for story or character development has dropped well below critical in the last month. The democrat characters are getting better development. * - isn't she actually Russian or something?
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Sanguine posted:I think Muir's actually gotten shittier since early this year. It's developed entirely into Revealingly-Clothed-American*-Woman dispensing right-wing talking points or straight-up conspiracy summaries. The writing has always been awful, but the amount of text for story or character development has dropped well below critical in the last month. The democrat characters are getting better development. Sam's half-Japanese, half-Irish. Ethnically anyway.
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Sanguine posted:I think Muir's actually gotten shittier since early this year. It's developed entirely into Revealingly-Clothed-American*-Woman dispensing right-wing talking points or straight-up conspiracy summaries. The writing has always been awful, but the amount of text for story or character development has dropped well below critical in the last month. The democrat characters are getting better development. Are you new here? Because Muir's poo poo isn't. His lack of restraint on how much he copy-pastes comes and goes. quote:* - isn't she actually Russian or something? They're all red-blooded American True Patriot Citizens. Red-headed waifu is half-Japanese/-Irish, and black mouthpiece's waifu is part Argentinian, which is where Don Ex Machina comes in. Liberal sometimes-tattooed recently pregnant half-sister of the red-head, I can't remember. It's all a nuanced portrayal of the American melting pot and not some gross exoticism on Muir's part.
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King of Solomon posted:Guess so! It's important to actually know how specifically speech is being limited, though. Also Cruz was still lying through his loving teeth. In which part specifically was he lying?
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Mordiceius posted:HAVE SOME TEXT I don't know what this says about me but even though I never read Ted Rall's walls of text, I read this. I read all the words. They were not good.
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Swan Oat posted:I don't know what this says about me but even though I never read Ted Rall's walls of text, I read this. I read all the words. They were not good. Muir's walls of text are more fun to read all the time, for me, because they are just moonbat idiocy. Ted Rall is fun to read only if you're in the right mood for  all the way down.
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Mordiceius posted:HAVE SOME TEXT Am I the only one who noticed that Muirs idea of a token feminist just said that feminists will try to blame poor innocent men of harassment and oppression?
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The real interesting thing about Muir is that almost all these other guys are making cartoons for public consumption, so they have to dress up all the usual right-wing talking points in generally palatable terms. So it's a lot of standard "Democrats kill jobs, tax and spend, DEBT" sort of thing, where they try to at least make it seem like complaints with a basis in fact. Not Muir. He is 100% a product of the echo chamber, getting talking points straight off right-wing blogs and sending them right back out to readers who aren't looking for anything more than that. As a result his comics often end up just a few chemtrails short of a Dees, since literally no theory or claim is too ridiculous or crazy to pass on, as long as it reflects poorly on Obama or other Democrats. His cartoons, more than any others, are a look into that pure unfiltered conservative talking point alternate universe. Cartoons like the latest are probably the purest example of that sort of thing. Absolutely none of those "facts" are supposed to convince anyone who hasn't already fully bought into the worldview where they could be true. The only comparable thing I can think of is, as mentioned, Dees. Even Animal Nuz, which is probably the closest thing on the other side in terms of blind ideological alignment, is still more on the level of an Allie in terms of twisting facts. That is, it exists in our universe, albeit a distorted version of it.
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Nckdictator posted:Found these on the dregs of the internet. I want to be offended but these are so over the top and poorly done... It's like if Jack Chick only had access to poser
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Fulchrum posted:Am I the only one who noticed that Muirs idea of a token feminist just said that feminists will try to blame poor innocent men of harassment and oppression? Muir is unable to write a realistic token lefty. The token feminist has "realized" she was wrong and given up her democratic piety in dozens and dozens of arcs. Its funny because Muir has written himself into a corner as he has progressively become more of an ideologue. At first she was supposed to be, I suppose, similar to the right-wing characters in Trudeau's cartoons: wrong but human. But his beliefs about the democrats have become so hostile and simplistic that it is probably impossible for him to write a token democrat. His token democrat espouses far-right beliefs in some weird way for him to humanize her. If she was "democratic" in the way that Muir now sees democrats the only logical and moral thing for the characters to do would be to her attack her.
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Jan isn't really the token lefty. She's basically supposed to be the "mainstream" liberal who just needs to see THE TRUTH and they'll be eternal GOP voters. Skye is the token lefty, and she's portrayed as a reckless child even when she does stuff that the right-wing protagonists do (like using Don Machina's plane).
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:In which part specifically was he lying? Ted Cruz posted:“I'm telling you, I'm not making this up," he said as the audience offscreen gasped. "Sen. Chuck Schumer [D-N.Y.] has announced the Senate Democrats are scheduling a vote on a constitutional amendment to give Congress the plenary power, the unlimited authority to regulate political speech. Because elected officials have decided they don’t like it when the citizenry has the temerity to criticize what they’ve done." The proposed amendment is very specific. It does not grant congress the right to do any of those things. It grants congress (and the states) the right to regulate campaign finance, specifically, and grants the press a specific exemption because of the way the press works. You can still say whatever you want, religious or otherwise. Not only did he not acknowledge what the proposed amendment actually does, he called out specific things that the proposed amendment definitely does not do.
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Rorus Raz posted:Skye is the token lefty, and she's portrayed as a reckless child even when she does stuff that the right-wing protagonists do (like using Don Machina's plane). And thus, when the waifu and Jan head up to help her out after she gives birth to twins on the side of the road, they get two weeks of comics driving and laying down sick burns, and then she gets two comics of having sick burns laid on her before she heads off to Argentina to get the gently caress away from these horrible monsters that she once called a family.
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King of Solomon posted:Source There are structural problems of majoritarian abuse for a constitutional regulatory ability of the sort the proposed amendment describes- among these are the ability to selectively attack campaign messages based on content. It also incorporates by implication a separate constitutional press freedom right, a concept many legal scholars have a lot of trouble with. Thankfully it's a political stunt with little to no chance of passing. More generally, I'd suggest your first cite on something contentious should probably be something other than TPM. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 06:17 on May 25, 2014 |
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Discendo Vox posted:There are structural problems of majoritarian abuse for a constitutional regulatory ability of the sort the proposed amendment describes- among these are the ability to selectively attack campaign messages based on content. It also incorporates by implication a separate constitutional press freedom right, a concept many legal scholars have a lot of trouble with. Thankfully it's a political stunt with little to no chance of passing. More generally, I'd suggest your first cite on something contentious should probably be something other than TPM. The article in question contains a link to a website with a video link of Cruz's commentary and a direct link to the text of the bill. It might not be the best source, but it's sufficient. I'm curious how congress could use this amendment to regulate content, since that should still be unconstitutional (the amendment in question would allow for them to regulate amounts donated/spent, but that shouldn't reflect on content.)
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King of Solomon posted:Source You can still say what you want as long as there's no money moving around. The pastor gets paid by the parish? Regulated as Congress chooses. I guess you can still shout from a rooftop (as long as you don't buy a megaphone), or post on forums (as long as the hosting fees aren't considered to be spending). It's hardly hyperbolic once you know what the government's said before: quote:JUSTICE ALITO:
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Nckdictator posted:Found these on the dregs of the internet. I want to be offended but these are so over the top and poorly done... This stuff is so fuckin' weird, because the guy clearly knows that there are many parts of Islam, a few of which he opposes and most of which he doesn't, but he uses this awful racist imagery that just sweeps it all up into one bundle anyway. I'm looking here specifically at the quotes around "Islam" in the This Mad Brute image and the as perceived ONLY by Islamo-fascists note under the MoDoz cartoon.
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Nckdictator posted:Found these on the dregs of the internet. I want to be offended but these are so over the top and poorly done... Man, Runescape got weird.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:That Jew is surprisingly Aryan Well, plenty of Jews actually do fit the bill, and there is in fact a specific strain of anti-semitism that only targets Ashkenazi Jews on the basis that they're "white and not really Jews".
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