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C - We shall stand around and wait as none have ever stood around and waited before!
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Jun 9, 2014 19:22
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our waiting shall break the world
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Jun 9, 2014 19:24
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Ralith posted:C - We shall stand around and wait as none have ever stood around and waited before! Waiting, we have the patience of ten patient men.
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Jun 9, 2014 19:28
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e:Aades posted:Maybe we should do some warm ups while we wait to get the Blood flowing. I prefer jumping jacks. *Enkidel starts rehearsing an ever-growing script of questions* Cornuto fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 9, 2014 19:31
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Maybe we should do some warm ups while we wait to get the Blood flowing. I prefer jumping jacks. Fortune favors the prepared.
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Jun 9, 2014 19:38
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C Looks like that priest needed to spend a few more decades at the high temple in Baitel before being trusted on his own.
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Jun 9, 2014 19:44
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 Diog, I know you're busy. Would you like a count done for this vote?
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Jun 9, 2014 19:45
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Whoa, a completely unanimous vote, good job everyone involved. I vote B! I'd like to amend my vote. I want to get our armor on and wait alone, but I'd also like to wake the others, have them get their armor on and have them wait alone. GloriousDemon fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 9, 2014 19:50
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Vavrek posted:
i think d won GloriousDemon posted:Whoa, a completely unanimous vote, good job everyone involved. reporting this post for voting wrong
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Jun 9, 2014 19:51
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Cause why not join the bandwagon. I'm disappointed in no apocalyptic divine firestorm, but perhaps these guys will join our pilgrimage to make it even bigger and more ridiculous? By the time we reach Baitel we'll probably outnumber the actual city.
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Jun 9, 2014 20:06
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C what they want.
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As an irrelevant aside, we did not experience Drip in the [???] Bucket upon delivering the message. This might mean that our task is somehow not completed, even though we delivered the message as per our Pledge. It could also mean a bunch of other things. Just wondering if we are job done here or not. In fairness, the message does not say a calamity will befall you at sunset. It says get out by sunset or a calamity will befall you. Doesn't say when really. The city may even still fall.
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Jun 9, 2014 20:18
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I'm going to be a contrarian and vote A. El accepted King Zobah's amends, and the King is now going to do what any King would do to a doomsday prophet whose prophecy didn't come true.
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Sogol posted:As an irrelevant aside, we did not experience Drip in the [???] Bucket upon delivering the message. This might mean that our task is somehow not completed, even though we delivered the message as per our Pledge. We aren't doing this for [???]. We are doing this as a servant of El in repayment for divine healing. We got a bump in [???] after committing a heroic act in the presence of witnesses. Being a messenger is not innately heroic. If the wicked king lunged at us and we slayed him then maybe we would have gotten a boost.
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Jun 9, 2014 20:26
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You wake your companions and together you all put on your armor quickly. You tell them "We have some visitors, be ready but I wish to see what they have to say." You watch as the group approaches from the direction of the city. As they come near to your camp fire you see that several of the men were your captives a short time ago. The men who butchered the village of Ashkalon. Most don't seem to be from the attack, or at least you don't recognize them as your former captives. They have shields and spears however their armor is of a poor and cheap quality. One of them, a former captive of yours named Gideon speaks for the men. He tells you that "I warned them about what would happen. Um, I mean my friend Yaakov. I warned him. Say hello to the Hero Yaakov." One of the other men mumbles a "ello" to you. Gideon resumes speaking and says "So I says to Yaakov, I says, we are gonna die if we stay here tomorrow, you said so, so we better pull a runner. And Yaakov says to me, he says, yeah, okay, sure, but I want to bring my friend Ephal cause we known each other since we were kids. Say hello to the Hero Ephal." Another one of the men looks to you briefly and says "'lo milord(*)." Gideon then says "Well Ephal thinks thats a good idea but wait, we gotta bring his brother too, on account of he can't just LEAVE him here, so we gets him too and um... his neighbor and their nephew and their friend and um.... we really wanna come with ya, ya Worshipfulness, on account of we don't wanna die with tha rest tomorrow." After questioning the man you learn a few notable details. Most of the men are all from the same village, a village on the eastern edge of Harmath's domain. Most are young men who have not married, some are. You also learn that the army at large does not know of your warning. Gideon overheard you talking about the message with Jobe on the way here from Ashkalon. It seems that the men want to desert. You are aware that if they are caught, they can expect to be executed so they can't go home. If they flee on their own and are caught... it won't go well for them either. Uriah frowns and says "Absolutely not. These men are murderers." Gideon pleads that "We only did as we were told your lordship!" Danal remains silent. Jobe says that "I... do not think we should get involved further. You delivered the message but the ways of these cities are bad ways, we should not get further entangled in their problems." 1. You tell the men... A. Sure! Come on. On to Baitel! B. I will see you on to the next city on my route but then, you are on your own. You can't come. C. I take them back to their home village, I can expect to add about a week and a half to the time I rejoin my caravan if I do this. If King Zobah is still around and kicking, they will be found and killed. If King Zobah dies tomorrow and his army falls, this whole region is probably going to be... an exciting place to live, no one will probably care they deserted. D. You accept, you will take them away and save their lives but only if they become your slaves. E. No. I turn them down and give them no other instructions. I turned them down but I also tell them... F. Just go back to your villages and hope for the best. G. Go to another city, on your own. H. Tell them that El hates deserters, they should go back to their camp and accept their fate at tomorrow's battle. I. Tell them that the blood of the innocent people of Ashkalon is on their hands. Their punishment has been ordained. Go back to your camp and accept El's punishment. J. Kill them. Some of them probably helped butcher Ashkalon and according to the villagers, many other villages were attacked. K. March them back to their army by force, let their own commanders kill them for desertion. L. None of the above. I go back to King Zobah and try again. Fill in your technique and/or approach. M. None of the above. I sneak into Tadmor and tell their king the military secrets I gained in King Zobah's tent. N. None of the above. Go back to the army and go over Zobah's head! I WAS SENT BY EL DAMNIT! LISTEN UP! El told your king to beat it and he said no, so I came back to save the miserable lives of all you soldiers! Refuse to fight! Get the El out of here before I start kicking asses and Smattas starts raining fire! O. Something else. Fill in. (*)One of the men called you milord. You know what a lord is. As you know, some cities, according to Tudiya, have something phenomenally wicked called lords. Kings a long time ago started giving land to people and named them lords. At the same time they made most of their people into slaves, as well as their children. They are not freed every fifty years. Not every city has lords but many do. The way they get around the sacred jubilee every fifty years which frees all slaves is that they aren't really slaves! No no no! You see, they just sign contracts promising to farm land in exchange for keeping a tiny portion of what they farm! What a deal! They get to eat! Some months, every day! The contracts also say that if they don't farm enough or quit, they have to pay a bunch of silver as a penalty for breaking the contract. Which being poor farmers they don't have. So it is totally a coincidence that every farmer who walks off their land is tracked down and forced to become a slave to pay their debts. Yeap! A coincidence! It is also a coincidence that the contracts are signed again literally the day after the jubilee(which also extinguishes all debts)! What a bargain! The people enslaved like this are called "serfs". It is one if many wicked ways of the interior cities, though it is not the way of all of them. The city of Harmath has lords and serfs, as does it's allies. Tadmor does not. You can question them if you like but I probably won't have time to answer before tonight. A question which was asked: quote:Consult Jobe and ask if offering penance or completing a selfless act may save their souls. Being a murderous rear end in a top hat wont get you sent to hell. There is no hell and there are a variety of other reasons to want to be in El's good Before Jobe answers, Uriah says with disdain and contempt "These men are not sorrowful, they are cowards. They do not seek forgiveness, they seek only to not die. They may not be Blooded but that is no excuse. The time for action was when they butchered that poor village. That was the time for them to disobey, not on the eve of their doomed battle." Gideon cries out again "Mercy milord! We only did as we must!" Uriah scowls and says "They did not need a Melachin to curse their king to learn El hates those who butcher women and children. We were no match for that Zviv but El was with us and he would have been with these spineless slugs if they made the right choice in Ashkalon. If they are sorrowful, let then give their spears to the Tadmorans and fight for the widows and orphans they made on the morrow." Jobe answers your question saying that "For what they have done, a proper penance would likely involve death, though not certainly so." You may recall when Tudiya had to deal with the survivors of Bareen's temple, he had those who took a life pray for a week. Two he killed after why exactly those two he never said. The others who took a life he only spared after they watched the others die. Tudiya did not fully explain his purpose but you can draw your own conclusions, he sent them off to be sold as slaves far away. You were told to speak with none of their fates, the city thinks Tudiya killed them. quote:Question for the dudes: "You only did what you were told, you say? And what exactly were you told to do?" 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Jun 9, 2014 20:27
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Is H actually true Diog, as far as we know?
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Jun 9, 2014 20:29
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O, Instruct them to return to camp and warn their fellow soldiers about the message from EL. If their hearts are true, EL WILL WATCH OVER THEM. Consult Jobe and ask if offering penance or completing a selfless act may save their souls. ShotgunWillie fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 9, 2014 20:30
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This is an interesting choice. I still want to wait to see if there's any smiting to be done/witnessed. I'm going to say F UNLESS the king and army are destroyed by divine intervention, in which case B Edit: so You can stay here to witness the smiting - no, not right next to me, more over there. A little further....a bit more...Okay, good. *loudly to be heard because they are twenty yards away* After your king is punished for his wickedness, I can take you to the next city on our route. I dunno, I'll probably change my vote later. hollylolly fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 9, 2014 20:33
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:Is H actually true Diog, as far as we know? Also, I quickly edited in one more option. Please make sure your letters still match.
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Jun 9, 2014 20:34
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A. Sure! Come on. On to Baitel! Mercy is never misplaced... but we take them as slaves-by-pledge until we reach Baitel. Once there, we will give them to the temple of El to face whatever divine retribution/penance is meted out. If that deal isn't to their liking tell them to get lost. e: This is about the maximum amount of "interfering with the affairs of Kings" that I'm comfortable with us taking on. Proactively sending them out to spread panic among the King's army is a step over the line IMO. Cornuto fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 9, 2014 20:35
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A The soldier's may accompany us to Baitel to do penance at the House of El.
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A, sort of We can take them with us to the next city and along the way, see how they act and get on with our Balls. If they prove themselves to be worthy and devout they can join us. If they look like they might be a burden or a trouble, ditch em. Also, make them pledge to El to make up for their actions.
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FEUDALISM  Voting I. "We did not leave you to the people of Ashkalon, and we did not deliver you to the people of Tadmor. Accept these mercies and hope we do not meet again."
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Jun 9, 2014 20:37
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 &  Work both angles. Send the deserters back to spread the word to the common soldiers that their king is leading them to their deaths. Any who are unsure can come out here and talk to Jobe who will swear to the truth of the message. We go in to Tadmor and help arrange the calamity with the intel we gained. So the serf-keeping fucklords will have their army desert and their leaders killed in battle. Calamity achieved.
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Jun 9, 2014 20:38
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B/O. Tell them that if they are to accompany us to the next city, they must all agree now to do penance at that city's Shrine of El.
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B. Gets them to relative safety, and lets them hear what's up with the army. If the army is intact, they can stay safely in their new home. If the army is smote, they can make their way back to their village. Easy-peasy. I doubt these guys are psychologically ready for life on the frontier away from their families forever, though, nor does Baitel make a whole lot of sense to me. Question for the dudes: "You only did what you were told, you say? And what exactly were you told to do?" Also, Diog, do we know whether the next city in our lineup is one of those allied to Harmath or no? Also, do inner cities tend to have things like extradition treaties for deserters?
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A.But make sure they leave behind any brand or banner of their old Kingdom, if any armor or weapon has got anything of that sort chuck it. Hell if looks like it's of Harmath make, bury it.
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O - "You will stay here and bear witness to what happens. Afterwards, you are on your own, regardless of the outcome."
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Jun 9, 2014 20:50
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ShotgunWillie posted:O, Instruct them to return to camp and warn their fellow soldiers about the message from EL. If their hearts are true, EL WILL WATCH OVER THEM. I vote Plan ShotgunWillie. Tell them the message and what occurred in the King's tent.
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O - Tell them we've been waiting for them and we have a message for them as well: Tell them they must go back to the army and spread the word that it is El's will that the siege is lifted, or great calamity will befall the attacking army, as retribution for the burning of El's shrine. We've been told not to destroy. This way, potentially a lot more men desert, and either the king can't do his attack and has to quit the field, or at the least many more lives are saved. Edit: Just noticed shotgunwillie's vote, so basically that.
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ShotgunWillie posted:O, Instruct them to return to camp and warn their fellow soldiers about the message from EL. If their hearts are true, EL WILL WATCH OVER THEM. This. They're doing the right thing by listening to El's word instead of their King, but we can't personally save or help everyone last person in need. By having them spread the word, they can save themselves.
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Cornuto posted:A. Sure! Come on. On to Baitel! This. They have done great evil, but they followed El's message. We can't really do anything Tudiya normally pulls out here, so take them to Baitel to seek penance and make amends.
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O. Plan ShotgunWillie+A afterwards. Remember, these guys were conscripts who would be killed for disobedience; the responsibility for their actions lies with primarily with the King and/or Prince. Some repentance isn't inappropriate, though.
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A. Sure! Come on. On to Baitel! The Melachim have already decided on the consequences for the town. If they wanted these guys punished in some specific way, they could have just said so when they were handing out punishments. But they didn't. And it's not our place to question El's leniency after he's made his wishes explicit and clear. So now we've got a bunch of dudes who (correctly) think we get messages from the divine and want to follow us. Sending them back just means that the Kings have 50 extra soldiers to die/kill in the siege. Dropping them off in a random city will probably end up with them turning into bandits. That sucks too. I think the best solution is a combination of A and O. Something else. Fill in: Give them a job. They're have to be plenty of projects that would help Zepath but wouldn't be worth doing personally. So turn them into a sort of unblooded 'junior' attachment to the balls/Farm Team. The trip will give us time to train them to guard merchants or help with useful stuff. We get income and a bunch of followers who (correctly) think we got used as an instrument of Divine Will. Zepath gets bridges and better trade. And nearby cities don't have a sudden bunch of bandits showing up. falcon2424 fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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O "I am not a lord. I see you are set to leave the army of Zobah and will do so regardless of what I say. Sit here with us and we shall see what tomorrow brings. Did you bring food?" Perhaps the conscripted serfs would listen to them, but mostly I think they would ignored at best and executed at worst if we send them back. After we see what events unfold we can agree to take them to Baitel as penance.
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I really like this idea. They have to stay 100 feet away from us until after the smiting is done.
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