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We warned you about splits bro.
Yes, it would have to have a different name for the party though like The Real Greens.
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Wouldn't that just disadvantage local farmers or something?
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Hahahahah, lamb exports suspended to Russia. Good job, that'll show them we mean business. 
Presumably the coalition will be savaged by the media for destroying the lamb export trade through ill-considered reactionary policy.
I'm honestly wondering how this works, did the rebels launch a roast at the plane or something?
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Yeah fair enough, I was just wondering about the mechanics of it.
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Sky link, but here's Gillian Triggs talking about her recent visit to Christmas Island and how nearly everyone there is sick in one way or another and there is a disproportionately high incidence of self-harm among the children there.
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ABC article:
quote:Asylum seekers: Many children on Christmas Island reportedly sick and distressed, wetting the bed, having flashbacks
By political reporter Karen Barlow
The Australian Human Rights Commission says it holds "grave concerns" for the welfare of asylum seekers, particularly mothers and children, on Christmas Island.
Commission president Gillian Triggs has recounted her inspection of the centre last week as part of a national inquiry into the mandatory detention of children seeking asylum in Australia.
Professor Triggs says conditions have worsened markedly since her last visit four months ago.
Almost all of the child asylum seekers inside the Christmas Island immigration detention centre are reportedly sick and distressed, with many wetting the bed and some developing severe speech impediments and having flashbacks.
There are 1,102 asylum seekers in the centre, including 174 children, and Professor Triggs says she and her team interviewed hundreds of detainees over three days.
"Almost all of them, including the adults, were coughing, were sick, were depressed, unable to communicate, were weak," she told AM.
"Some of them [are] not leaving their cabins, are not eating."
The inspection coincided with the first anniversary of the starting date - July 19, 2013 - of the Government's policy not to allow asylum seekers arriving by boat to settle in Australia.
Professor Triggs was accompanied by leading paediatrician Professor Elizabeth Elliott.
"We have seen children who have become sad, they are crying all the time," Dr Elliott said.
"They have developed bed wetting and poor sleeping. Some are refusing to eat.
"We saw several children, which is quite distressing, who had developed severe speech impediments.
"They were having flashbacks and nightmares."
Christmas Island 'no place for young children'
There are almost half the number of children at the centre compared to the last Human Rights Commission visit in March, but Professor Elliott says that is still too many under current conditions.
"Christmas Island is no place for young children," she said.
Professor Triggs says there is an unprecedented rate of self-harm among children.
She says 128 cases have been reported in the last 15 reporting months.
"The desperation is palpable ... and the boredom of the children with no school, nothing to do," Professor Triggs said.
"It is very well known, as a matter of research, that children decline much more rapidly than their parents do.
"There is no eye contact with some of them."
Professor Elliott says she was especially concerned about the unaccompanied minors.
"[There were] boys aged 14 to 17 who had seen violence such as shooting and abduction of relatives at home and were now in the detention centre and really felt that they had no future," she said.
Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young has called on Immigration Minister Scott Morrison to immediately remove the children, describing conditions on Christmas Island as "child abuse".
"It is not tenable to keep women and children in those conditions any longer. They should be brought to the Australian mainland," she said.
"We don't have to be treating refugees as if they are criminals."
The Human Rights Commission would also like access to the children being held on the Australian-run offshore processing centre on the Pacfiic Island nation of Nauru, but have been told it does not have jurisdiction.
Senator Hanson-Young says Nauru should be opened up.
"Just imagine how bad it is on Nauru, where there is even less transparency and less access from the outside world," she said.
Morrison says number of child detainees has declined
Immigration Minister Scott Morrison is returning from a trip to India, but in a statement, his office says the minister is drawing down the numbers of child detainees.
"The number of children in held detention has declined by over 35 per cent under this Government, from more than 1,300 at the time of the election down to 849, and the number of children in detention on Christmas Island has been reduced by more than 60 per cent," it said.
"The Government reiterates its intention to reduce the number of children in detention to return to what it was under the Howard government. Just before the Labor came to government there were no .. children in (immigration) detention."
A spokeswoman for Mr Morrison says "in July last year, under Labor, at its peak there were 1,992 children in held detention".
"It is disappointing that such an inquiry was not undertaken, or even contemplated, when the number of children in detention was at that peak," she said.
Detainees 'reaching the end of the tether'
Mothers on Christmas Island reported to the Human Rights Commission delegation that their children were constantly sick with chest or gut infections and were developmentally delayed.
The women reported being afraid to put babies on the ground for fear of dirt, stones and animals.
Professor Elliott says Christmas Island is a poor environment for raising young children.
"Mothers complain that there is just nowhere for them to put their children down to crawl and learn to walk and there is very limited space within their own cabins for children to move about," she said.
A spokeswoman for Mr Morrison says he was concerned about the reports of illness.
"After following this matter up today the Minister has been advised that chest and gut infections are not pervasive at the facility, as alleged, and that any illness is treated with proper and appropriate medical and other support," she said.
"The suggestions made today reflect unfairly on their dedicated efforts and professionalism."
Professor Triggs says the mothers are struggling themselves.
Her inspection took place while a small group of the female detainees, including mothers, were on official watch after threatening self-harm.
She says the number of women on 24-hour watch constitutes a spike in serious cases of self-harm or suicide attempts.
"When we were there, and I can speak very categorically about this, there were 13 women on high-level risk monitoring for suicide, 10 of them requiring 24-hour watch," Professor Triggs said.
Christmas Island has a visiting adult psychiatrist and a visiting child and adolescent psychiatrist.
Of the detainees they spoke to, Professor Elliott says all of them had some sort of mental health problem.
"What we witnessed really was, with this long duration of detention to one extent of another, people are just reaching the end of the tether," Professor Elliott told RN Breakfast.
"They have had enough."
Mr Morrison's office says health care and support, including mental health care, is provided onsite by medical practitioners, mental health nurses, psychologists, counsellors and visiting psychiatrists.
"For privacy reasons, it is not appropriate for the Minister to comment on a person's individual circumstances," it said.
"It is longstanding Government practice not to confirm or comment on reports of individual acts of self-harm."
Government responds to request for education
There is one hope, according to Professor Triggs - the children will soon be able to go to school.
Professor Triggs says the Government has responded to her request for education for the children.
She says teachers should be on the island within a couple of weeks.
"That is probably the most important ray of light in the current situation," Professor Triggs said.
"They will be able to have a routine to their days.
"Their parents will have the routine of getting them to school and making sure their homework is done."
A spokeswoman for the Immigration Minister says the decision to improve education facilities was made well before and independently of discussions with Professor Triggs.
"It was made following the Minister's visit to Christmas Island in November last year and was taken through the Cabinet process," she said.
Professor Triggs hopes the school will transform life within the camp, but says she wants more from the Federal Government.
"It does not take away from the fact that they (the asylum seekers) are still sitting in a legal limbo with no sense of a future and no sense that they are going to be sent anywhere that is safe," she said.
"The Government is stripping away their personal dignity because they can't even cling onto the fact that they are legally recognised as a refugee within the global community."
The inquiry into children in Australian immigration detention is expected to report to the Government before the end of the year.
Government response is to continue to  and blame Labor.
adamantium|wang fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Jul 24, 2014
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Speaking of reverse marketing, I'm in the middle of such a program at the moment, we've had the dream team up from Geelong to butter us up and do makeovers and buy clothes so that's been good, and we're doing the usual resume tightening and reverse-marketing hype that we're about to go into in the next half which starts tomorrow.
The biggest take-out from it is the solidarity between the participants which impresses me most; not so much the hopeful visits from 2 cleaning companies. They've said straight-out that I shouldn't even bother looking locally and start hitting the Melbourne circuit but its all been well-meaning nevertheless and it's not simply a transparent money-grab.
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Separate Crikey bit for lovers of neoliberals everywhere:
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Want some advice for free? The wise heads around the IPA and blog Catallaxy Files are champions of freedom -- sorry, champions of FREEDOM! -- but there are limits. Thus Catallaxy stalwart Professor Sinclair Davidson -- who advocates the rule of the free market from a comfortable publicly funded sinecure at the RMIT University Business School -- has recently authored a report for the Minerals Council of Australia, in which it is argued that anyone advocating divestment from coal companies by share portfolio holders should be liable under the Corporations Act.
The logic? You're going to love this:
Got that? If you freely say that investors should freely choose to freely disassociate from things they don't approve of, you should be prosecuted for costing them money. More proof that classical liberalism is really about property rather than persons, and sees the latter as a subset of the former. Still, as John Quiggin notes, this might be a job for FREEDOM BOY, Tim Wilson. Someone project the Reagan signal into the sky!
ewe2 fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Jul 24, 2014
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We might get another Gallipoli out of it. Another opportunity for a politician to cry about dead soldiers; sounds like a sweet deal.
Wild hypotheticals time? It would be so awesome. Just all the butthurt from patriotic nationalist shitheads as our navy surrenders to or complies with turnback orders from Russian navy in the Black Sea. I would live in a constant state of joy.
One guy was making his own cheese out of discounted milk from Coles.
It's completely hosed.
There's nothing wrong with haloumi, or making haloumi!
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Wild hypotheticals time? It would be so awesome. Just all the butthurt from patriotic nationalist shitheads as our navy surrenders to or complies with turnback orders from Russian navy in the Black Sea. I would live in a constant state of joy.
There's nothing wrong with haloumi, or making haloumi!
no but there is something wrong with making haloumi from coles milk
its supposed to be made with sheeps milk you dunderhead
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no but there is something wrong with making haloumi from coles milk
its supposed to be made with sheeps milk you dunderhead
No, you can make it with just about any milk. Trust me, I work on a lot of cooking shows.
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No, you can make it with just about any milk. Trust me, I work on a lot of cooking shows.
yeah but then it's lovely white person rip off haloumi
trust me i ived in cyprus
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Abbott really needs to stop talking in his pressers about corpses rotting in fields and exposed to the ravages of heat and animals. I'm sure that's just what grieving relatives want to hear, you insensitive jerk.
He doesn't care about the families, it plays well to reactionary dickheads who think he's being a STRONG LEADER!!!
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Separate Crikey bit for lovers of neoliberals everywhere:
It's the same as calling for a boycott of Ben & Jerry's because of their environmental stance while trying to ban environmental groups from calling for boycotts.
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This MyGov business is loving stupid. I got my password wrong enough times to get it locked out for TWELVE HOURS 'for privacy and security reasons'.
I bypassed this by literally just creating a new account with my existing email/TFN/PAYG summaries without any issue whatsoever.
Great job!
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This MyGov business is loving stupid. I got my password wrong enough times to get it locked out for TWELVE HOURS 'for privacy and security reasons'.
I bypassed this by literally just creating a new account with my existing email/TFN/PAYG summaries without any issue whatsoever.
Great job!
Don't get me started on eHealth. Somehow it's linked to my mygov and it's impossible to get into with my credentials.
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SMH posted:Former Labor prime minister Julia Gillard offered to resign in favour of Greg Combet at the height of Labor's leadership instability ahead of the 2013 election.
Mr Combet makes the explosive claim in a new book about his time in politics.
The former climate change and industry minister has revealed he spoke privately to Ms Gillard about the difficulties she faced in a closed door meeting.
"I thought there needed to be a caucus ballot for the leadership once and for all, we couldn't have had two leaders going to the election fighting Tony Abbott which was the situation we were in," Mr Combet has told the ABC's 7.30 program.
"Julia surprised me at that discussion by suggesting she would stand down in favour of me if I stood".
Mr Combet added that he didn't know if he would have won in a ballot against former prime minister Kevin Rudd.
Mr Combet says he was also offended by Mr Rudd's suggestion, in 2007, that he needed to be "de-unionised" after being elected to parliament "a bit offensive".
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My experience with the Qld Greens at branch meetings and from volunteering is they tend to be no-nonsense older professionals and a handful of younger, angrier types. Never really ran into mung-bean stereotypes.
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Just catching up on archiving news articles and was fooled by this article:
quote:The Commonwealth Bank has apologised to customers who lost money as a result of bad investment advice from its financial planners.
Commonwealth Bank boss Ian Narev said that the past practices of its financial planners were “unacceptable” and would never happen again.
The bank chief also announced that steps had already been taken to provide compensation to victims of poor financial advice.
“As a responsible corporate citizen, the Commonwealth Bank decided many years ago to put aside money in case of such an eventuality.”
Mr Narev acknowledged, however, that the bank’s customers may not receive as much compensation as they hope.
“Unfortunately the bank relied on advice from its own financial planners when working out how much money should be put aside for compensation payments.”
“We realise now that the sum they suggested is nowhere near enough.”
Mr Narev said that due to the poor advice it received from its financial planners, the bank was not only a victim of the Commonwealth Bank financial planning scandal but “the first victim”.
“Obviously we will be seeking compensation from ourselves as a matter of priority,” said Mr Narev.
The bank boss said that he could not quantify how much money the Commonwealth Bank would be seeking, other than to say it was likely to be “in the low billions”.
Mr Narev promised to pay compensation to other financial planning victims once its own losses were met.
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Just catching up on archiving news articles and was fooled by this article:
This is more believable no less ridiculous than half of the actual news.
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If we're already world leaders in radio astronomy why do we need to keep funding it?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/csiro-cuts-space-research-deeply-to-find-required-114m-savings
quote:CSIRO cuts space research deeply to find required $114m savings
The CSIRO is scrambling to deal with funding cuts in the federal budget, and astronomy is in the firing line
radio telescope, Parkes
At least four staff at the Parkes observatory are believed to be facing redundancy. Photograph: Julian Chung/Guardian Australia
Michael Safi
Deep cuts to the CSIRO budget will see up to 30 positions go in the organisation’s space research division and the suspension of its Bolton fellowship, one of the world’s most prestigious astronomy scholarships.
The Australis fellowship and a number of postdoctoral positions will also go unfilled, and the organisation will not appoint a chief scientist to head its world-leading Square Kilometre Array project, as the CSIRO scrambles to find savings after a $114m funding cut in the federal budget.
Many of these staff cuts could occur by not filling vacant positions or renewing contracts as their terms end, the chief of the CSIRO’s astronomy and space science division, Lewis Ball, said in a presentation in Sydney on Wednesday, but at least nine redundancy offers would be made this week, with “another few likely” in the next year.
We're one of the two host nations for the SKA, one of the largest scientific projects going on around the world, why should we have someone in charge of it? She'll be right mate.
War on science continues.
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hey, it's not like those propellerheads in the radio astronomy division came up with novel solutions to signal processing problems that ended up being worth hundreds of millions in patent royalties for wireless local area networks!
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You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.
You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.
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Hey look it's that time in the news cycle to demonise jobseekers some more.
News.com.au DON'T CLICK
Dole bludgers sleep through job interviews as work ‘doesn’t pay enough’ posted:
BLUDGERS are refusing jobs and staying on the dole because they can’t be bothered getting out of bed for interviews or work they are offered does not suit their lifestyle.
The Department of Human Services has discovered slackers are intentionally making themselves “unemployable” and some dole bludgers even claim working for a living does not pay enough.
Jobseekers were caught failing to turn up for appointments or interviews a staggering 215,000 times in just the first three months of this year, The Courier-Mail can reveal.
The department found more than 121,000 excuses given by jobseekers were rubbish and refused to pay some dole recipients for up to eight weeks.
Almost one in four of those jobseekers penalised either slept in when they knew they had an interview with a job provider or employer, got the date wrong or forgot to attend.
Over 16 per cent did not want to participate because the scheduled time “was not convenient’’, they “did not see the value in attending’’ or “indicated that they did not care whether they attended or not’’.
Ten per cent pretended they had a medical problem, while others said the job didn’t pay enough, they had “cultural issues’’, or had a personal matter they needed to attend to.
The revelations have reinforced the Abbott Government’s determination to forge ahead with tougher compliance measures, which are expected to be announced soon.
Assistant Employment Minister Luke Hartsuyker said jobseekers who received taxpayer-funded income had an obligation to try to find work.
Labor claims welfare is not out of control
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“The Coalition is committed to making sure that job seekers in receipt of income support meet their mutual obligation requirements to actively look for work and do all they can to improve their job prospects,’’ he said.
“The Government has introduced changes to tighten the rules so that more job seekers do the right thing the first time.”
Mr Hartsuyker added that new arrangements meant people who missed an appointment were more quickly reconnected with their employment service provider.
“And from 1 January 2015, a job seeker’s income support will remain suspended until they actually attend the scheduled appointment with their providers,” he said.
“The Government has also introduced legislation so that people who refuse a suitable job or are persistently and wilfully noncompliant will serve an eight-week non-payment penalty.
“This will act as a stronger deterrent to those job seekers who are intent on abusing the system.”
Under current arrangements, job seekers who fail to turn up to just one appointment and do not have a good reason are slugged 10 per cent of their 14-day instalment.
It increases for each day they fail to meet their obligations. However, they receive backpay once they do the right thing. Persistent bludgers are hit with an eight-week non-payment period but those with children or who have less than $2500 in liquid assets escape penalty.
The Newstart allowance is $510 a fortnight for singles.
It is $550 a fortnight if a recipient has a child or children or $460 each if both partners are unemployed.
Those aged 16-24 years looking for work receive $414 a fortnight if they are single and living away from home or $542 if they are single with a child.
The thing is, saying the job doesn't pay enough is an perfectly legitimate argument! If the job is going to pay you less than it costs you to clothe, feed and transport yourself there and have enough for rent and all those necessities, of course you'd turn it down.
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News.com.au DON'T CLICK
The thing is, saying the job doesn't pay enough is an perfectly legitimate argument! If the job is going to pay you less than it costs you to clothe, feed and transport yourself there and have enough for rent and all those necessities, of course you'd turn it down.
And newstart pays better?
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It does if you have a 2hour daily commute by car to work minimum wage.
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Traveling in one direction I mean, that 90min commute. Not overall per day.
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I meant 60minutes each way but didn't realise new start was so much lower than minimum wage.
The article is a total fabrication. If the dole is 30% of minimum wage nobody would use that excuse
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Waaaah the Christians are out to get me
