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Stickarts posted:My team is better than yours. An accurate statement when applied to about 3 teams so far.
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Jul 29, 2014 16:40
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Habibi posted:I thought for sure Jordan would take him to pair up with Chara, because holy poo poo that would have been a first line. I don't think Erhoff was the best D left and that's a one year deal. I'd rather sign someone better to a larger deal that lasts longer. (Or no D at all)
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Jul 29, 2014 16:52
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Jordan7hm posted:I don't think Erhoff was the best D left and that's a one year deal. I'd rather sign someone better to a larger deal that lasts longer. (Or no D at all) I think he is. Guy is really awesome and really underrated.
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Jul 29, 2014 16:57
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Danny LaFever posted:Tough one. I think I'll go back to the blueline and select Pittsburgh Penguin Christian Ehrhoff. Number 1 defenseman, easily. The only thing that scared me off was his contract
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Jul 29, 2014 17:21
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tofes posted:Number 1 defenseman, easily. The only thing that scared me off was his contract I dunno about that. I think Martin and Letang may have something to say about that.
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Jul 29, 2014 17:31
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Jordan7hm posted:I dunno about that. I think Martin and Letang may have something to say about that. Ehrhoff is far better than Paul "Mercurial" Martin.
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Jul 29, 2014 17:36
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Jordan7hm posted:I don't think Erhoff was the best D left and that's a one year deal. I'd rather sign someone better to a larger deal that lasts longer. (Or no D at all) Yeah, I'm sure Ehrhoff would hate to re-sign with a team that puts him on the ice with Crosby, Chara, and Hossa.
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Jul 29, 2014 17:42
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Jordan7hm posted:I dunno about that. I think Martin and Letang may have something to say about that. I feel extremely comfortable saying Ehrhoff is better than both Letang and Martin
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Jul 29, 2014 17:46
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Habibi posted:Yeah, I'm sure Ehrhoff would hate to re-sign with a team that puts him on the ice with Crosby, Chara, and Hossa. I'm sure he would. For a lot of money. Ehrhoff signed a "I just got paid insane buyout money and want to win a cup, let's give this a shot for a year" deal. If he doesn't win a cup, he probably goes the Hossa route and signs somewhere else hoping for the same thing. If he does, he either leaves, or signs for market value (as Hossa did with Chicago). Ehrhoff is four years removed from being a great offensive threat, and outside of Buffalo was never depended on to be a #1. He was the best of a bad lot. If I was going to pick a guy on a short term deal to play with Chara, it'd be a guy who is currently undrafted and playing in Montreal, who is probably the actual best remaining defenseman. (I obviously mean Emelin). e: Letang is heads and shoulders above Ehrhoff in terms of offensive play and he also plays more minutes. His issue is injuries, especially going forward. Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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Jul 29, 2014 17:49
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ooooh controversial pick. 
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Jul 29, 2014 17:59
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Alright - time to go a little maverick. So we've got a bit of a philosophy change, some of you could argue a bit of clean-up to be done. Did Stepan and Palat go earlier than they should've? Yeah, maybe, but we've got youth, anchored by the best and most handsome goalie this side of the Atlantic, giving us the time for players to grow and the chance to build an up-tempo, high-risk high-reward kind of team that'll keep the fans in the seats. No more of this grinding, shot-blocking smothering system. We're bringing in advanced statistics, we want shooting matches because our goalie is gonna be stopping more shots than yours. First thing's first, we needed a youngish puck-moving defenseman, and Mike Green used to sort of be one of those. He's been busted up the past few seasons, but last year he played 70 games and put up a decent CF% on an absolutely abysmal, tire-fire of a team. Discounting the garbage-broken years, you've got a player that moves the puck like few others and can eat up some minutes for you. It's a risk if he's still broken, but a steal if he bounces back (and playing in front of Lundqvist gives him the freedom to play fast and loose like we're trying to build for here). I think this is a decent way to pick since there are still dozens of young picks/grizzled vets to go around, and I wanted someone potentially elite to carry our back-end/power-play. In comes Mika Zibanejad. Again, the youth rush. Kid put up good, good numbers for the Sens last year and is only going to get better with time. He's going to need some cushy zone-starts still, but as I said, there's plenty of defensively responsible centers available to give the hard starts to. When you can take a dynamic player entering his prime, you do it. Now in a few rounds while you guys are scrambling to pick the bottom-barrel kids to keep your team from imploding in a few seasons, I'll be picking up old dudes on short contracts to bridge the gap and keep us competitive while the core grows to maturity.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:15
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I just made my shortlist, even though my pick is 15 picks away. So, yeah, I am ready.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:42
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Jordan7hm posted:I'm sure he would. For a lot of money. Ehrhoff signed a "I just got paid insane buyout money and want to win a cup, let's give this a shot for a year" deal. Ehrhoff already signed a deal for a lot of money and I don't get the impression it ended like he wanted in any sense that wasn't financial. Sure, if he's unhappy after his one year deal, he'll go elsewhere. But as I implied earlier, playing with the guys you have your team is a pretty good reason for a player to not be unhappy.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:45
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Twin Cinema posted:I just made my shortlist, even though my pick is 15 picks away. So, yeah, I am ready. I am looking at extraskater now even though my next pick is over 50 away so yeah
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Jul 29, 2014 18:45
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Habibi posted:Ehrhoff already signed a deal for a lot of money and I don't get the impression it ended like he wanted in any sense that wasn't financial. Sure, if he's unhappy after his one year deal, he'll go elsewhere. But as I implied earlier, playing with the guys you have your team is a pretty good reason for a player to not be unhappy. Fair enough. I don't think he re-signs for the same kind of money though. If his year goes well he'll get a sizeable raise. So I don't think you can look at his contract at being all that great. As I said I don't think he was the best D available anyway, so while I did look at him, it wasn't enough to go with him. I also didn't think that the run on D would continue. As long as there are still guys who can play 22+ minutes by the time it gets back to me, I'll be happy with the D available.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:54
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The Anaheim Ducks proudly select Carl Hagelin. Hagelin is one of the fastest skaters in the league, a possession monster, and one of the best penalty killers out there. His reputation on the PP is not really deserved, as he's never gotten a serious look there, but he's an absolute 5v5 beast. Because of this, he'll remain underpaid compared to his production for likely the rest of his career, so he's a great long-term asset. He's also instant chemistry with whatever line he's on because he just retrieves pucks and backchecks his rear end off, too. Just a top form player, and he was one of the best Rangers against the Kings.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:56
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Emelin is not the 40th best defence man in the NHL. Dude had a horrible year and I never saw much in him like others did anyway.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:56
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Jordan7hm posted:
are you trying to just convince the next guy to take Emelin because come on.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:02
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Stickarts posted:Emelin is not the 40th best defence man in the NHL. Dude had a horrible year and I never saw much in him like others did anyway. Tell me more.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:05
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mennoknight posted:are you trying to just convince the next guy to take Emelin because come on. This is the only thing that makes sense
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Jul 29, 2014 19:15
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I hope none of you take him. Verv is next, followed by A Typical Goon and fits.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:21
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mennoknight posted:are you trying to just convince the next guy to take Emelin because come on. whoosh Stickarts posted:Emelin is not the 40th best defence man in the NHL. Dude had a horrible year and I never saw much in him like others did anyway. whoosh
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Jul 29, 2014 19:25
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Kerr-Gretzky-Yemelin Erhoff-Radulov Brodeur
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Jul 29, 2014 19:48
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T-Bone posted:Kerr-Gretzky-Yemelin My god, it's full of stars!
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Jul 29, 2014 19:50
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 Pictured: Alexy Yemolyn
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Jul 29, 2014 19:52
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stab posted:whoosh I feel shame.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:59
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I don't. It's hard to tell when someone who usually doesn't tickle my funny bone tries to tickle it. It just feels like they're trying to molest me.
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Jul 29, 2014 20:00
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Generally molestation produces quite significant feelings of shame.
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Jul 29, 2014 20:23
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Jordan7hm posted:Fair enough. I don't think he re-signs for the same kind of money though. Yeah no way, but I don't think that's going to really be an issue.
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Jul 29, 2014 21:14
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Habibi posted:Yeah no way, but I don't think that's going to really be an issue. In real life for Pittsburgh no. For my imaginary team, ehhhh. We'll see. There are going to be some overpriced but solid D available in the later rounds if last time was any indication.
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Jul 29, 2014 21:18
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Jordan7hm posted:In real life for Pittsburgh no. For my imaginary team, ehhhh. We'll see. There are going to be some overpriced but solid D available in the later rounds if last time was any indication. Heh that's a little funny actually because I was thinking it would be the other way around - Pittsburgh would have trouble retaining an inflated salary, while your imaginary team would be fine. I seem to recall teams having a lot of trouble last year getting even close to the cap.
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Jul 29, 2014 21:21
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Habibi posted:Heh that's a little funny actually because I was thinking it would be the other way around - Pittsburgh would have trouble retaining an inflated salary, while your imaginary team would be fine. I seem to recall teams having a lot of trouble last year getting even close to the cap. Possible. I think I'm at over 30 already though.
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Jul 29, 2014 21:22
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Jordan7hm posted:Possible. I think I'm at over 30 already though. Nice one, Homer.  e: and the cap is going up by a Rogers unit or something, right?
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Jul 29, 2014 21:27
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gonna take dan hamhuis. he was probably the only defenceman on the canucks last year that looked good for the whole year under a crazy person coach and has pretty much been the model of consistency since getting to vancouver he can be the dan hamhuis to brian campbell's brian campbell
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Jul 29, 2014 21:31
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Ill take Jacob Trouba . Though I want to win now, adding a 20 year old top 3 D man on a ELC will help me in the long run. I think Trouba was the best rookie defencemen last season, I'm kind of shocked he went so far after Jones/Lindholm/Murray. He's every bit as good as those guys, if not better. I wasn't sold on Trouba at first, but since being drafted Trouba has excelled at every level he's played at. He has so much potential, and he's already a very solid player. Quite happy with the pick.
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Jul 29, 2014 21:45
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A Typical Goon posted:Ill take Jacob Trouba . Though I want to win now, adding a 20 year old top 3 D man on a ELC will help me in the long run. I think Trouba was the best rookie defencemen last season, I'm kind of shocked he went so far after Jones/Lindholm/Murray. He's every bit as good as those guys, if not better. I wasn't sold on Trouba at first, but since being drafted Trouba has excelled at every level he's played at. He has so much potential, and he's already a very solid player. Quite happy with the pick. Argh, sonovabitch. I knew there was no chance he'd fall but I desperately wanted him to. He would be the perfect backup plan for my busted up Mike Green.
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Jul 29, 2014 21:49
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Verviticus posted:gonna take dan hamhuis. he was probably the only defenceman on the canucks last year that looked good for the whole year under a crazy person coach and has pretty much been the model of consistency since getting to vancouver Good pick A Typical Goon posted:Ill take Jacob Trouba . Though I want to win now, adding a 20 year old top 3 D man on a ELC will help me in the long run. I think Trouba was the best rookie defencemen last season, I'm kind of shocked he went so far after Jones/Lindholm/Murray. He's every bit as good as those guys, if not better. I wasn't sold on Trouba at first, but since being drafted Trouba has excelled at every level he's played at. He has so much potential, and he's already a very solid player. Quite happy with the pick. Bad pick
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Jul 29, 2014 22:10
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tofes posted:
Trouba rocks sorry
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Jul 29, 2014 22:15
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Looking at his numbers it's not as bad of a pick as I previously thought but there are still better right handed d available
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