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Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

ThinkTank posted:

Lindros just sat out and joined Team Canada to force a trade. The Nordiques originally said they were unwilling to trade him and would wait as long as it took to keep him, but the NHL intervened and forced them to move him. Incidentally, they actually agreed to trades with both the Flyers AND Rangers, so much so that it required arbitration (by Todd Bertuzzi's uncle of all people) to determine which team got him. The NHL is strange sometimes.

Between this crap and all the teal sweaters I feel like I really missed some hosed up poo poo (in a good way) by being a child throughout the 90s. Thanks for the info, gramps.

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ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

JoelJoel posted:

Between this crap and all the teal sweaters I feel like I really missed some hosed up poo poo (in a good way) by being a child throughout the 90s. Thanks for the info, gramps.

I was a child in the 90s too, I'm just a dork and like NHL history. :eng101:

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

T-Bone posted:

He is eligible - STL still owns his rights. Technically the Devils still own Kovalchuk's rights. Radulov wouldn't be eligible though (he's a UFA now).

Sobotka would be eligible anyway. I specifically used a date after the draft but before July 1 so that everyone drafted this year and everyone who played last year would be eligible.

Kovalchuk's rights aren't owned by New Jersey, his ability to return to the league is determined by New Jersey (apparently). Not the same thing; NJ could have 50 other players on their reserve list. Kovalchuk is not eligible.

mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER
Cool 20 new posts it'll totally be my pick nope it's the vladimir sobotka power hour

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

mennoknight posted:

Cool 20 new posts it'll totally be my pick nope it's the vladimir sobotka power hour

I'm going to make you sad, but the next auto-pick is Iginla (JVR has been taken, right? cant check just now. if not it's JVR).

Rutkowski is probably being auto'd, given it's middle of the night where he lives if I'm not mistaken.

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013
Almost my turn to pick again

Rutkowski
Apr 28, 2008

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS GUY?
Sorry I'm late. Picking Grandon Gormley of the Coyotes because that dude is probably a top 4 pairing this season and a potential 1-2D in just a few years.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Wow. Like 6-10 rounds too early.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
:stare: that sure is a pick. I have a picklist for talent deficit, give me a bit

the talent deficit misses on Olli Maata, but manages to pick up Tobias Enstrom.

Enstrom is an incredibly talented little guy who has had trouble staying healthy over the past few years. He's a strong positional defender who can play top D minutes and put up .5PPG (aside from this past season, sadly).

(My own comment on the pick is that while I like Enstrom, staying healthy is a problem for him, and I wonder how much of his perceived value comes from being the best of a bad lot, similar to my concern with Ehrhoff.)

Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jul 30, 2014

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
Lmao

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
The next 5 picks:

18.Boston Bruins -- Jamwad Hilder
19.Calgary Flames -- mennoknight
20.Dallas Stars -- Twin Cinema
21.Philadelphia Flyers -- mentholmoose
22.Carolina Hurricanes -- eXXon

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

drat, I though I was reaching with Olli.


Also, yes, JVR went in like the second round or something.

mentholmoose
Nov 5, 2009

YKNOW THERES ONLY ONE DIRECTION I KNOW AND THATS DRIVIN STRAIGHT TO THE NET
I like Enstrom. I was hoping he'd fall another round or two because having him on my second pair would be huge.

Gormley is a huge homer pick, though, you could have definitely got him a couple rounds from now.

mentholmoose fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jul 30, 2014

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
really thought I was gonna take a center or a defenseman this round but I'm going to continue to neglect those positions and take yet another winger

Marian Gaborik - 32, 4.875 cap hit for the next 7 years, wasn't very good in NY or CBJ but including the playoffs went 19-19-38 in 45 games for LA. Only 2 seasons removed from a 41 goal season, injuries are always kind of a concern with him but he's still a solid bet for 30+ goals even when he misses time.

edit: maybe i can teach one of Eberle, Gaborik, and Vanek to learn center

Vanek-???-Eberle
???-Galchenyuk-Gaborik

lol defense

Rask

Jamwad Hilder fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jul 30, 2014

Laderhan
Oct 2, 2013

Jamwad Hilder posted:

really thought I was gonna take a center or a defenseman this round but I'm going to continue to neglect those positions and take yet another winger

Marian Gaborik - 32, 4.875 cap hit for the next 7 years, wasn't very good in NY or CBJ but including the playoffs went 19-19-38 in 45 games for LA. Only 2 seasons removed from a 41 goal season, injuries are always kind of a concern with him but he's still a solid bet for 30+ goals even when he misses time.

edit: maybe i can teach one of Eberle, Gaborik, and Vanek to learn center

or defense.

But Gaborik was a real good pick imo, great cap hit and he's a fantastic player when he's healthy.


JoelJoel posted:

PK going to sign a 5 year max contract, retire, sit out a year, then join the leafs for a home town discount. :getin:

PK is going to be a Predator for life. :colbert: (god, that sounded wrong, in multiple ways.)

Laderhan fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jul 30, 2014

mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER
So...gimme dat nut, gimme a guy who is still one of the best powerplay guys in the league Andrei Markov i dont care hold old he is. Yep, he will get hurt but he'll be feeding my top 6 forwards great passes allllllllll night long when he's healthy.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

mennoknight posted:

So...gimme dat nut, gimme a guy who is still one of the best powerplay guys in the league Andrei Markov i dont care hold old he is. Yep, he will get hurt but he'll be feeding my top 6 forwards great passes allllllllll night long when he's healthy.

He's been healthy the last two seasons and he's the best D remaining and he has been for a while. He's old is the only legit knock against him.

I like Gaborik, like his contract too. Didn't take him because he's so drat inconsistent.

mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER

Jordan7hm posted:

He's been healthy the last two seasons and he's the best D remaining and he has been for a while. He's old is the only legit knock against him.

I like Gaborik, like his contract too. Didn't take him because he's so drat inconsistent.

I just got a legitimate #1 dman in the fifth round after Jake Muzzin and Grandon Gormley were taken. I can deal with that.

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black

This guy isn't a #1 defense-man in 2014.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

lazerwolf posted:


This guy isn't a #1 defense-man in 2014.

You mean the guy who played the most and toughest minutes for Montreal and who put up 43 points?

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

lazerwolf posted:


This guy isn't a #1 defense-man in 2014.

Eh, Zubov played 'til he was like 38 and he smoked like a drat chimney. He might have a good 2-3 years left in him.

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

Andrei coming down just met PK on the way up this past season in terms of role. I'd give him a C for top pairing, but like an A+ for 2nd pairing. A good pick and I like him. And yea, his injury concerns are, knock on wood, apparently over.

20.Dallas Stars -- Twin Cinema
21.Philadelphia Flyers -- mentholmoose
22.Carolina Hurricanes -- eXXon



e. Though he is for surely old experienced.

Stickarts fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jul 30, 2014

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.
Sorry! I thought we were further back when I checked earlier this morning, but now I have made the thread wait for four hours!

Anyways, give me Alexander Semin. He just turned 30, if often injured, and has labels like 'enigmatic' or 'inconsistent' attached to him. So, why would I want to take him? He gets it done. What's it? Scoring, mostly. Also, a good possession player. While the years of him being a 30-goal scorer may be over, he is still a good piece to have.

So far, I now have

Nash - RNH - Semin

Weber - Vlasic

mentholmoose is up.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

You have $32M committed to 5 players. That's nearly half the cap.

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

ThinkTank posted:

You have $32M committed to 5 players. That's nearly half the cap.

pfft not me :smug: I'm ripe for a panicked salary dump.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

You guys keep picking players not on my list and I am ecstatic. I was a bit nervous the last few but now I'll definitely get at least one major piece I want when my next pick is up.
(I have ~90 picks on my "short" list ready to go)

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Jordan7hm posted:

This also means you can draft guys like Alfy who may not play the 2014/15 season. That's a risk you take.

... but nobody owns his rights at the moment?

What about extensions signed during the offseason?

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Yeah technically you shouldn't be able to pick current UFAs right now.

Laderhan
Oct 2, 2013
I have 21 million commited right now plus whatever Subban gets in arbitration, I just hope that I'm not not screwed later.

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013
FYI I added a couple lines on one of the worksheets that calculates the average salary of each person's team and the difference between everyone's team and the average

mentholmoose
Nov 5, 2009

YKNOW THERES ONLY ONE DIRECTION I KNOW AND THATS DRIVIN STRAIGHT TO THE NET
Well I was literally going to take Semin with this pick, so, uh, I'll take an old dude who can score 30 goals, I hope, Jarome Iginla.

eXXon is up.

e: Simmonds-Backstrom-Iginla

OEL-Carlson

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

eXXon posted:

... but nobody owns his rights at the moment?

What about extensions signed during the offseason?

His rights were owned on the date I used in the OP.

e: To clarify, the issue here is that there are good UFAs who will play in the NHL next year. We had three options: not drafting them at all, allowing it to be a free for all where you suddenly get to draft a guy because he signed a contract right before your pick came up, or the way I did it.

The way I did it allows you to take the risk of signing an unknown or taking a risk (with Alfy for example) that a guy will retire or sign in the KHL. It does mean that a currently UFA player has more risk, but at the same time it may mean that by drafting one you end up with a great bargain pick.

Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jul 30, 2014

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.

ThinkTank posted:

You have $32M committed to 5 players. That's nearly half the cap.

So? There are big money players left, but in this type of draft, I don't think the cap is an issue.

mentholmoose posted:

Well I was literally going to take Semin with this pick, so, uh, I'll take an old dude who can score 30 goals, I hope, Jarome Iginla.

eXXon is up.

e: Simmonds-Backstrom-Iginla

OEL-Carlson

Oh good! I thought I may be able to wait on Semin for another round, but I'm glad I made the right choice.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



I'm not sure what I'm doing anymore, but I probably need someone to score a few goals, so I'll take Patric Hornqvist. He has decent possession numbers against good competition, fair scoring rates and a reasonable contract for what's left of his prime. I'll pretend that the playoff wet farts were an anomaly.

Also, he got traded for James Neal, so he must be good. On the other hand, he got traded by Jimmy Rutherford, soooooo. On the third hand, he should play with one of Malkin/Crosby next season and put up better than usual totals, making me look good in the process. And to tail it off, his dyslexic name is Hatric Pornqvist.

Anyway I've got Hornqvist-Kadri-Tarasenko and McDonagh-Pietrangelo for now. Not the punchiest scoring, but those three forwards were all in the top 20 in the league in penalty differential, so hopefully the powerplay will work out with some veterans later on.

Pat Clements is up.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Since I killed the thread, you can all have a look at one HFBoards version of this exercise, with Leafs fans participating. The caveat is that they decided to only build a team for a single season and ignore the cap because they're dumb.

My favourite is the Washington guy who traded up to pick OEL 16th with Subban on the board, then had Subban drop to his original pick (22nd).

Pat Clements
Feb 10, 2008
Posting from a plane to say Nail Yakupov! is my pick

Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.
Is it my turn now?

Laderhan
Oct 2, 2013

Habibi posted:

Is it my turn now?

yep

Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.
Uh, then do the rules allow me to go off the board and select Jonathan Drouin? Because if so, I'll go off the board and select Jonathan Drouin. Effort later after the kids are asleep.

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Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.

Habibi posted:

Uh, then do the rules allow me to go off the board and select Jonathan Drouin? Because if so, I'll go off the board and select Jonathan Drouin. Effort later after the kids are asleep.

You motherfucker.

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