WhiskeyWhiskers posted:It's easy, see you tighten your hand into a sort of ball shape, leaving the thumb on the outside and... ...express your disapproval by giving him a thumbs-down
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Tokamak posted:Your honour, this couldn't possibly be a bribe. You see, the money didn't come in a sack with dollar signs on it. http://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/investigations/current-investigations/article/4636 Theres a very long argument in this transcript about whether it was a bribe or mere patronage.
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Earlier this year, the annual Lowy Institute poll of Australian attitudes found 40 per cent no longer believed democracy is the best form of government. The main reasons given were that democracy was serving vested interests rather than those of the majority, and that there was no real difference between the two major parties. Link.
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Tokamak posted:Your honour, this couldn't possibly be a bribe. You see, the money didn't come in a sack with dollar signs on it. or in the form of a bottle of Grange. BCR posted:Earlier this year, the annual Lowy Institute poll of Australian attitudes found 40 per cent no longer believed democracy is the best form of government. I heard this earlier on the Js and thought ooer, is that dissention i hear. A gradual awareness that people are getting hosed by a system they cant escape? 
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Jumpingmanjim posted:http://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/investigations/current-investigations/article/4636 One thing I kind of don't get about political donations. Donations to a party from a business or interest group theoretically (hah) shouldn't be influencing or creating policy within that party as much as it should be supporting a party due to it's stances aligning with what that business/interest group wants, right? If that's the case how the hell do we think that groups are supporting ideologies that they agree with, rather than paying for policy when they make donations to *both* major parties in huge amounts. I mean the only thing they seem to agree on is "torture more refugees" which I don't think any business has as a core principle. Except maybe Serco. The only thing I can think of is that my first premise is wrong, and people are allowed to give parties money in order for them to produce policy which helps those people in which case what in the actual gently caress, how is that different to bribery?
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hooman posted:One thing I kind of don't get about political donations. Donations to a party from a business or interest group theoretically (hah) shouldn't be influencing or creating policy within that party as much as it should be supporting a party due to it's stances aligning with what that business/interest group wants, right? http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/461/take-the-money-and-run-for-office
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Aug 12, 2014 07:15
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You know how there was rumour that the federal Liberal Party want to make businesses party members and to give them a vote? Well, it would seem they're trying it out in Sydney. You see, they hate Clover so much they want to give businesses the vote. No, that's incorrect. Two votesquote:Today the Government announced to the media that they would support a Bill by the Shooters and Fishers Party to manipulate how people can vote in the City of Sydney.
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Jonah Galtberg posted:So my dumb political establishment friend said last night that he agrees with the Newstart cuts ("the average Australian should be smart enough to easily have 6 months' worth of savings") and the premise of a budget emergency 
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Jonah Galtberg posted:His family is rich as gently caress, a fact he only realised in the last month or so Maybe ask him if he's smart enough to do some basic math. Current minimum wage is $640.90 a week before tax. 6 months of that equals $15,381.60 before tax. Give him an actual figure to slap in his face instead of some vague ideological thing he feels he agrees with. He expects every single young person in Australia to have a savings of at least 15 grand to fall back on. Or you could point out that since these cuts are targeting young people, they are just starting their working careers and haven't actually had time to accumulate those savings. Correct my figures if I'm wrong, but I believe it should still take a minimum of 6 months to accumulate that 6 month's worth of savings! Even for the smartest and most aggressive saver who forgoes eating or paying their rent or any other worldly expenses whatsoever. Now what happens if they don't even have a job for that full 6 months.
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And doesn't that 6 months get reduced by how much time you've spent in the workforce anyway? So someone who has not been able to get a job and has no savings is getting hit with the full six months, while people with these theoretical savings are having to spend less time off support?
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BCR posted:Earlier this year, the annual Lowy Institute poll of Australian attitudes found 40 per cent no longer believed democracy is the best form of government. One of the most important aspects, if not the most important, of a democracy is an informed populace. lovely media world-wide has put the breaks on that
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Maybe those young poor people shouldn't have chosen to be young and poor.
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BCR posted:Earlier this year, the annual Lowy Institute poll of Australian attitudes found 40 per cent no longer believed democracy is the best form of government. But if we can get it up to 51 percent, that means we've democratically chosen to throw out democracy, so we can try something new, right? 
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Bifauxnen posted:But if we can get it up to 51 percent, that means we've democratically chosen to throw out democracy, so we can try something new, right? Philosopher king?
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Bifauxnen posted:But if we can get it up to 51 percent, that means we've democratically chosen to throw out democracy, so we can try something new, right? Monarchy with the royal family decided via a game of Super Smash Bros Melee.
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bell jar posted:We'll have another one at some point. I never have any money these days to afford that poo poo. If someone else organises one though (Sisgmund??) I'll rock up I said recently I might try and organise the next one, it might mean that I'd have to attend then. Was gonna see when coq was down next.
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Anidav posted:Monarchy with the royal family decided via a game of Super Smash Bros Melee. I think I'd like to have an empire if you're just going to give it to me like that.
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   wherein we all run afoul of the new anti-terrorism legislation Stokebar is booked out that day, we cannot use the venue. We can go to JFC aka Sukachi, Albert St, next to Spoon cafe. And just have platefuls of boneless fried chicken and beers. Or there is Halims Indian Taj in Milton, we can get a curry. Negative Entropy fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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While we're talking about Goon get togethers, I'll take this opportunity to mention (for the final time) that the Adelaide Greens are hosting a screening of The Hundred Foot Journey on Thursday night to raise money for future election campaigns. A few of us are going, and it would be a good opportunity to have a beer afterwards. Adelaide is better than Brisbane, so you should come along. It will be held at Palace Nova on Rundle Street at 6:30pm. Tickets are $20 and include a drink. Book your tickets tonight, because registration will close at noon tomorrow. Tickets are not able to be purchased on the night. Facebook event link Purchase tickets here
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BCR posted:Earlier this year, the annual Lowy Institute poll of Australian attitudes found 40 per cent no longer believed democracy is the best form of government. This doesn't show that people don't like democracy, just that they don't like the current implementation.
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Kim Jong ill posted:Philosopher king? unironically this but also post/username combo Gough Suppressant fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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Aug 12, 2014 08:02
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Elect me as a benevolent dictator and set up a bunch of gulags. I'm talking gulags for people who stand on the right side of the escalator, gulags for people who get on the train before people get off, gulags for the people who did a bad job building the gulags. That's my platform and if you don't like it there's probably a gulag for you, too.
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Bifauxnen posted:Maybe ask him if he's smart enough to do some basic math. Current minimum wage is $640.90 a week before tax. 6 months of that equals $15,381.60 before tax. Give him an actual figure to slap in his face instead of some vague ideological thing he feels he agrees with. He expects every single young person in Australia to have a savings of at least 15 grand to fall back on. I know all these things - my failing was (and always has been) that I get too worked up when I hear someone saying vile poo poo to be able to think of anything in reply except 'get hosed'.
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redweird posted:Elect me as a benevolent dictator and set up a bunch of gulags. I'm talking gulags for people who stand on the right side of the escalator, gulags for people who get on the train before people get off, gulags for the people who did a bad job building the gulags. That's my platform and if you don't like it there's probably a gulag for you, too. vote 1
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Jonah Galtberg posted:I know all these things - my failing was (and always has been) that I get too worked up when I hear someone saying vile poo poo to be able to think of anything in reply except 'get hosed'. I do this too, all the stuff I could spew out at them just disappears in that instant.
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redweird posted:Elect me as a benevolent dictator and set up a bunch of gulags. I'm talking gulags for people who stand on the right side of the escalator, gulags for people who get on the train before people get off, gulags for the people who did a bad job building the gulags. That's my platform and if you don't like it there's probably a gulag for you, too. Include a gulag for people who don't use indicators and you've got my vote.
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redweird posted:Elect me as a benevolent dictator and set up a bunch of gulags. I'm talking gulags for people who stand on the right side of the escalator, gulags for people who get on the train before people get off, gulags for the people who did a bad job building the gulags. That's my platform and if you don't like it there's probably a gulag for you, too. Not enough gulags imo.
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A gulag for people that don't wear bike helmets.
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Scylo posted:A gulag for people that don't wear bike helmets. And one for people who do. Also one for people who don't ride bikes.
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Captain Pissweak posted:Maybe those young poor people shouldn't have chosen to be young and poor. Did Matisyuhaha ever explain why his parents chose to be poor? redweird posted:Elect me as a benevolent dictator and set up a bunch of gulags. I'm talking gulags for people who stand on the right side of the escalator, gulags for people who get on the train before people get off, gulags for the people who did a bad job building the gulags. That's my platform and if you don't like it there's probably a gulag for you, too. You've got my vote. edit: you had me at "gulag"
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Put the gulags inside bigger gulags
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The gulag continent
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Small Keating posted:MELBOURNE GOONS MOBILIZE. We can't let these northerners show us up, with their sunshine and their palm trees and their militarized police state. Goon meets are so last decade
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redweird posted:Elect me as a benevolent dictator and set up a bunch of gulags. I'm talking gulags for people who stand on the right side of the escalator, gulags for people who get on the train before people get off, gulags for the people who did a bad job building the gulags. That's my platform and if you don't like it there's probably a gulag for you, too. Do this for people who walk slowly in front of me in the supermarket.
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Kommando posted:
Have it at Go Lounge. It's BYO and you can order in curry and you can play Twilight Struggle while you chat auspol.
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You Am I posted:Goon meets are so last decade Dont like goon meets? There's a gulag for folks like you. Its full of goons.
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Did I miss this earlier? Best new app of the year. Hope it works in a gulag!
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Do this for people who walk slowly in front of me in the supermarket. Also people who are walking towards you and go right then left then stop.
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redweird posted:I'm talking gulags for people who stand on the right side of the escalator, Take out an ad in mX, you'll get a shitload of Brisbane votes.
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