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Ugh:quote:Now Rove’s Crossroads is back with another ad that does pretty much the same thing, this one hitting Senator Kay Hagan in North Carolina over Social Security’s retirement age. The spot, which is backed by more than $1 million, says Hagan is a “big believer” in a “controversial plan” that “raises the retirement age,” while the words “raises Social Security retirement age” flash on the screen. It also claims the plan Hagan supports “increases out-of-pocket Medicare costs.” http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/when-roves-crossroads-moves-sharply-the-left You know, I understand that a cynical, hackish fuckface like Karl Rove would use whatever argument he can to help get votes, even if it means attacking your own policies. But I'm truly curious to see how rank and file Republicans who see poo poo like this feel. Imagine if Obama was at a rally and he told the audience that the Republicans are trying to tax the wealthy in the hopes that they would get angry. I wouldn't think any sentient being who knows what Obama and the Democrats support when it comes to economic policy, would be fooled into supporting the rich. Yet I never to this day have seen a single Republican step back and go "hey, wait a minute..." every time Rove/Romney/Ryan/etc. pulled this sort of up is down, black is white, reality bending crap.
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I live in a state where "frequenting a bawdy place" is a crime. That seems so incredibly vague as to never hold up.
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FairGame posted:I live in a state where "frequenting a bawdy place" is a crime. That seems so incredibly vague as to never hold up. Well you can't write "whorehouse" into a law, children might read the laws!
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FairGame posted:I live in a state where "frequenting a bawdy place" is a crime. That seems so incredibly vague as to never hold up. I understand what they want that law to mean but it is written way too vaguely. Jesus hung out with prostitutes so in Virginia he would probably be considered a criminal.
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Aug 27, 2014 04:02
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hobbesmaster posted:Well you can't write "whorehouse" into a law, children might read the laws! I seem to recall some state legislature failing to outlaw bestiality because none of the lawmakers were mature enough to write it or debate it.
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Aug 27, 2014 04:03
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I think they're referring to Baltimore.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I seem to recall some state legislature failing to outlaw bestiality because none of the lawmakers were mature enough to write it or debate it. Many states still don't have necrophilia and bestiality laws. Kansas, Oklahoma, Louisiana and North Carolina still don't have necrophilia laws. Nevada, Wyoming, New Mexico, Texas, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio, New Jersey, Connecticut, New Hampshire and Vermont: all states that don't have laws against bestiality. And of course Washington didn't have any bestiality laws until after a certain famous horsefucking video.
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Obviously referring to Telephone Road. http://culturcide.bandcamp.com/track/telephone-road
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Prosopagnosiac posted:Cognitive dissonance kind of implies that they have some subconscious psychological/intellectual stress that they seek to resolve. I don't think that's the case anymore for them. They've got their buzzwords and propaganda down to an Orwellian IngSoc science. They can dismiss all conflicting reports, while failing to remember what they did and said a day ago. Let alone last year. The memory hole is real for them, on a both conscious and unconscious level. That's not what I'm saying, though. They don't simultaneously believe that Obamacare is not working as well as it should and that Obamacare must be destroyed- they believe that Obama is the Great Satan, and they're just shouting whatever makes him sound bad.
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CaptainCarrot posted:No, they don't. Hispanics are more socially liberal than whites. Hmmm, I was always told it went the other way. I love learning new things. A quick google search gave me this interesting Poll: http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/04/v-politics-values-and-religion/ I'm going to have to spend some time going through that at a later date, there is a lot of really interesting information just on the surface.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Nevada, Wyoming, New Mexico, Texas, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio, New Jersey, Connecticut, New Hampshire and Vermont: all states that don't have laws against bestiality. Now I really want to troll Republican legislators in some of those states because I can't imagine they're aware of this. Pretend to be an outraged Christian evangelical who is SHOCKED SHOCKED that my upstanding Republican state delegates haven't even outlawed bestiality. Nintendo Kid posted:And of course Washington didn't have any bestiality laws until after a certain famous horsefucking video. I'm like 10% curious because I have no idea what you're talking about, and 90% happy that I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Jackson Taus posted:I'm like 10% curious because I have no idea what you're talking about, and 90% happy that I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Jackson Taus posted:Now I really want to troll Republican legislators in some of those states because I can't imagine they're aware of this. Pretend to be an outraged Christian evangelical who is SHOCKED SHOCKED that my upstanding Republican state delegates haven't even outlawed bestiality. I'm pretty sure the good ol' farmboys are aware of bestiality. I do note that just about all states have animal cruelty laws. So obviously if you hurt an animal while fuckin' you can expect yourself some jail time for that. Google Mr Hands. A Boening engineer had a farm in Washington state where he let animals gently caress him in the rear end (he later died of injuries suffered when he let a horse gently caress him rectally)
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This being the thread formerly known as "GOP Rebuilding", I'd like to point out that the documentary "Zoo," which is all about that case and uses the voices of many of the people directly involved, is up on Youtube now and is amazing. I think the former thread title and Mr. Hands are linked in some way. I can't believe I'm hearing people say they're not familiar with mrhands.avi. Is this still Something Awful?
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darthbob88 posted:The Enumclaw Horse Sex Case, where a Boeing engineer died because he was anally hosed by a horse. That sounds really unpleasant in every conceivable way. Even if it all goes according to plan and you don't die of sepsis.
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VitalSigns posted:That sounds really unpleasant in every conceivable way. Even if it all goes according to plan and you don't die of sepsis. See the thing is he'd done that multiple times and didn't die or even get seriously injured. That's what the video of him around the internet shows, one of the cases where he straight up has a horse dick in his rear end and then the horse cums in him - he was ok after that. Though I'm sure his fellow engineers would see him acting a little disheveled when he came back to work the day after one of those.
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Nintendo Kid posted:See the thing is he'd done that multiple times and didn't die or even get seriously injured. That's what the video of him around the internet shows, one of the cases where he straight up has a horse dick in his rear end and then the horse cums in him - he was ok after that. No, I get that, like I said it sounds horrible even if you don't get injured. I mean, horses don't even understand safe words. Plus like, I feel like the horse wouldn't care about you, you know? Sure, maybe he's excited to see you or see a camera in a Pavlovian kind of way but it's just not the same. You could maybe convince yourself that he cares, but I think deep down, you'd know.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Many states still don't have necrophilia and bestiality laws. Kansas, Oklahoma, Louisiana and North Carolina still don't have necrophilia laws. Louisiana doesn't even have a prostitution law. They charge you with committing a Crime Against Nature. Vahakyla posted:He would have made it but did not go to the hospital due to possibly being ashamed lf it. No, the prognosis is not good with acute peritonitis unless it happens in the hospital or you've got something quickly correctable through surgery like appendicitis. Basically, peritonitis is an excellent way to die of infection/sepsis in the hospital or on your couch or bathroom floor.
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Jackson Taus posted:Now I really want to troll Republican legislators in some of those states because I can't imagine they're aware of this. Pretend to be an outraged Christian evangelical who is SHOCKED SHOCKED that my upstanding Republican state delegates haven't even outlawed bestiality. It's possible they don't outlaw it because they are former practitioners. quote:In the course of the interview, however, Colmes asked Horsley about his background, including a statement that he had admitted to engaging in homosexual and bestiality sex. Updated with audio! Granted the guy has not actually held elected office and I think was running under a third party, but still funny and slightly more on topic.
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Mr Interweb posted:Ugh: The Democrats are getting exactly what they deserve for worshiping at the altar of Simpson-Bowles. And they're getting another lesson in how the GOP is way, way better at this than they are. Hopefully they learn something from it.
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Vahakyla posted:While actual people suffer? Good thing that's not what they said
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The GOP have released a videogame to get people hype for the midterms, starring Giopi the elephant! http://www.missionmajority.com  The videogame posted:"Hi, my name is Giopi," states the game's intro. "I'm one of the GOP's best volunteers for the 2014 midterms, and I'm here to show you how we can win back the Senate! There is going to be a lot of red tape and regulations in our way, but we need to overcome them in order to succeed." I am not joking, and it being the GOP, the site has sound on by default and requires you to give them your e-mail address. Because nothing in life is free. ufarn fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:Though I'm sure his fellow engineers would see him acting a little disheveled when he came back to work the day after one of those. Did the horse say, "You ain't gonna poo poo right for a week" during the process? ufarn posted:The GOP have released a videogame to get people hype for the midterms, starring Giopi the elephant! Yeah, it's been covered. It's terrible and you can mess with the code quite easily. Also, you can give it any email address.
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Mr Interweb posted:You know, I understand that a cynical, hackish fuckface like Karl Rove would use whatever argument he can to help get votes, even if it means attacking your own policies. But I'm truly curious to see how rank and file Republicans who see poo poo like this feel.
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Sir Tonk posted:Did the horse say, "You ain't gonna poo poo right for a week" during the process? No, but "Mr. Hands" had some memorable lines in the video that disseminated throughout the internet. I didn't know it was a Boeing Engineer on the receiving end, although that some sense of the aerospace people I know. edit: Nintendo Kid posted:See the thing is he'd done that multiple times and didn't die or even get seriously injured. That's what the video of him around the internet shows, one of the cases where he straight up has a horse dick in his rear end and then the horse cums in him - he was ok after that. Either you or I have this very wrong. Mr Hands was fine, he was the guy who owned the farm and paid people for services with his horses. The guy in the video was not alright, that was the instance where something went wrong (namely, Mr. Hands didn't hold on and keep the horse from lethally impaling one of his customers). Edit2: Looking deeper into the issue there was apparently a documentary that would sort all this out. Good to know, probably worth watching for the cultural irrelevance. Pythagoras a trois fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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pangstrom posted:Yeah there wasn't a lot of reaction beyond a few of the "serious" conservative pundits when they did this in 2010 and I would guess there will be even less acknowledgement among conservatives this time. It didn't make it into the standard 2010 midterms story for some reason but scaring people about medicare was almost their only winning issue. Voters won't have learned any lessons on this but maybe a few of the Democratic candidates and organizations have. The lesson they need to learn is you have to be for something positive and consistent about it and don't promise poo poo you can't do. Also don't compromise right out the gate goddamn. The one benefit of a Hilary presidency over Obama is she knows how to do politics.
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SirKibbles posted:The lesson they need to learn is you have to be for something positive and consistent about it and don't promise poo poo you can't do. Also don't compromise right out the gate goddamn. The one benefit of a Hilary presidency over Obama is she knows how to do politics. But the downside is she won't fight for anyone except corporations and herself...
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effectual posted:But the downside is she won't fight for anyone except corporations and herself... That's simplifying it, she's great on women's issues (you know with the whole being a woman thing)and that's definitely needed.Honestly she'll be great on domestic issues as long as it's not related to finance. Though I'm not sure where she stands on charter schools either. It's odd how her and Obama are like reverse mirrors politically.
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What domestic issues not related to finance will she be great on? I can't see her sticking her neck out on any social issues that aren't already popular and if her tenure as State Secretary is any indication she's totally down with police militarization.
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Radish posted:What domestic issues not related to finance will she be great on? I can't see her sticking her neck out on any social issues that aren't already popular and if her tenure as State Secretary is any indication she's totally down with police militarization. Great in terms of Democrats vs Republicans is actively not going backwards.
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SirKibbles posted:Great in terms of Democrats vs Republicans is actively not going backwards. I disagree. "Great" is actually fighting for something for the benefit of the people she's supposed to be representing. "Mediocre" is stalemating with Republicans so they don't pass horrible stuff while the country flounders into disrepair. I'm willing to settle for mediocre because of the scotus situation but we shouldn't get our hopes up that she's going to do anything more than Obama because of her experience at the game. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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SirKibbles posted:That's simplifying it, 1)she's great on women's issues (you know with the whole being a woman thing)and that's definitely needed.Honestly she'll be 2)great on domestic issues as long as it's not related to 3)finance. Though I'm not sure where she stands on charter schools either. It's odd how her and Obama are like reverse mirrors politically. 1) Being a woman doesn't make you "great on women's issues" just like Obama being black didn't make him "great" on minority issues. 2) She wasn't in favor of LGBT marriage rights until it was vogue. She wasn't in favor of LGBT/women in combat roles until it was vogue. She is quite literally the moderate liberal Romney. 3) If she's supposed to be liberal with social issues but a corporate shill economically/fiscally, why not just vote for Rand Paul and assume a GOP-run Congress and Executive will Get poo poo Done? The left's Clinton fans and "I'm Ready For Hillary" bumper stickers are really making me laugh. Get burned by empty promises from Obama and you immediately decide to become pragmatic and get the liberal version of Romney with a little dash of McCain? That's some PTSD voting right there. Amergin fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Amergin posted:1) Being a woman doesn't make you "great on women's issues" just like Obama being black didn't make him "great" on minority issues. Hey I don't support her but she's all but guaranteed to be president if Biden doesn't run if. Trying to make the best out of a bad situation and I start talking about not voting for her you'll just do your dumbass gimmick so...... Radish posted:I disagree. "Great" is actually fighting for something for the benefit of the people she's supposed to be representing. "Mediocre" is stalemating with Republicans so they don't pass horrible stuff while the country flounders into disrepair. I'm willing to settle for mediocre because of the scotus situation but we shouldn't get our hopes up that she's going to do anything more than Obama because of her experience at the game. Was just trying to point out that America is not going to turn into an Bladerunner hellhole the moment Hilary is President. SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Amergin posted:1) Being a woman doesn't make you "great on women's issues" just like Obama being black didn't make him "great" on minority issues. I would vote for a fish if it vetoed anything passed by a Republican congress.
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