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mom posted:how hard would it be to cross into syria from turkey Depends who you cross for. And yeah Sedan Chair, after a certain point people don't care if they die, as long as you give them some water first.
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mom posted:how hard would it be to cross into syria from turkey Caro managed it twice and he was paranoid schizophrenic, but I think they've cracked down since then.
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I would keep fighting to the bitter end and leave a round in the chamber for myself if it came to it. Better than being tortured, dehuminised and executed imo. Sounds like the surrounded Filipino UN troops are doing just that. http://www.smh.com.au/world/un-peacekeepers-seized-by-syrian-militants-on-the-golan-heights-20140829-10a2qm.html posted:While the UN continues to seek the release of its peacekeepers on the Golan Heights, the Philippine army said in a statement that militants had surrounded the Philippine contingent's encampments with Fijian hostages in tow and demanded that the Filipino troops surrender their firearms.
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Fanatic posted:I would keep fighting to the bitter end and leave a round in the chamber for myself if it came to it. Better than being tortured, dehuminised and executed imo. Pictures from that story seem to be trying to indicate it was ISIS but the Golan Heights is all the way on the other side of the country, so my guess it is likely to the the Islamic Front and/or SRF.
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It's JaN, the other jihadists. http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/al-nusra-front-captures-syrian-golan-heights-crossing-747933668
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Aug 29, 2014 11:43
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I've been aware of Caro and his crazy exploits for a while now but I never really knew anything more specific than "Went to Libya, then went to Syria, now missing", so now after a little google I see that he actually fought alongside Libyan rebels? I was sure he was only playing journalist. Did he go to Syria to fight alongside the loyalists or was he going to join the rebels/al-Qaeda/whoever? Does anyone even know? What a crazy guy. Assuming that he isn't dead and someday turns up well and safe, wouldn't he be tried for treason in the US?
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Aug 29, 2014 12:23
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emanresu tnuocca posted:What a crazy guy. Assuming that he isn't dead and someday turns up well and safe, wouldn't he be tried for treason in the US? He is. Starved to death in a regime prison.
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Aug 29, 2014 12:25
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My Imaginary GF posted:He is. Starved to death in a regime prison. Source? Can't find much new info about him past 2012.
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Aug 29, 2014 12:30
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I don't think anything definitive made it out, but correlatíng his position, rebel affiliation and the usual survival rate of regime prisoners, he's toast. If we have not heard from him at this point, there's just no hope he made it.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Source? Can't find much new info about him past 2012. I think I'm the source of that. There's two people who independently of each other said the saw him in Branch 215, half-starved, tortured, and begging people to kill him. The FBI are looking into it, as well as at least one journalist.
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SedanChair posted:I think history shows the "beaten or surrounded enemies fight desperately to the death" phenomenon to be pretty rare. Rare enough that when it happens it often becomes a historical event. And back in those days, people under siege could pretty much expect to be put to the sword, to the last man. Sometimes it was solely for the benefit of those who weren't soldiers. Romans would certainly loot a city they captured, but they'd leave it intact if only so they could loot it again later. If you gave them a hard time and resisted entreaties to surrender, though, you could look forward to every man, woman, and child inside enslaved/killed, then the city itself turned into a no-man's land.
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Aug 29, 2014 12:59
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Morning news from Chicago, some schlub was driving around flying an ISIS flag and made a bomb threat when his vehicle was pulled over. I'm glad LEO is on the lookout for ISIS flags.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Morning news from Chicago, some schlub was driving around flying an ISIS flag and made a bomb threat when his vehicle was pulled over. I'm glad LEO is on the lookout for ISIS flags. ISIS? Excuse me Officer but this is clearly an al-Shabaab flag. I've been into jihad for years before those takfiri hipsters on twitter.
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mom posted:how hard would it be to cross into syria from turkey  ISIS throws people in prison over selling cigarettes, and cut their own guys hands off for stealing in a punishment called hadd. Probably not the best place to be a broken addict. Caro tried going through Turkey, and the last place he was seen was here.
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Fanatic posted:I would keep fighting to the bitter end and leave a round in the chamber for myself if it came to it. Better than being tortured, dehuminised and executed imo. I just want to point that everyone says this. Doing it is a different matter.
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I think its best to learn from the pumpkin thread and Caro by not answering any specific question related to obtaining access to a potential conflict zone without a specific reason. Call it an overabundance of caution if you will, I'd rather not indirectly assist anyone's plans to enter ISIS territory with my posts. I'm opening myself up to a sick burn in there, somewhere. E: Blue Footed Booby posted:I just want to point that everyone says this. Doing it is a different matter. There far too often comes a point in life where the only options are 'Surrender and drink water, then die' or 'Die from dehydration.' If you're going to die, far better to relieve the thirst first. At least that'll be one last, fleeting moment of fulfillment, rather than the horrid wasting where one feels their eyes drying blind, gluing themselves into ever-receding sockets, and not having the energy to blink. My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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Volkerball posted:
They don't gently caress around with second hand smoke.
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There was an NPR report the other day about how the PKK holds a large portion of the Turkish side of the border with Syria and the watch towers were abandoned. Also today is Friday, so there should be a slew of new YPG/PKK videos on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deWuzcKdHnc look ma I can shoot!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cYg4xBBsKA I saw this the other day, it almost looks photoshopped. I'm not sure why giving the Kurds Katyushas is a good idea, though. The video reminds me of the Iranian missile launch photo shop scandal. Torpor fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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TheBalor posted:Sometimes it was solely for the benefit of those who weren't soldiers. Romans would certainly loot a city they captured, but they'd leave it intact if only so they could loot it again later. If you gave them a hard time and resisted entreaties to surrender, though, you could look forward to every man, woman, and child inside enslaved/killed, then the city itself turned into a no-man's land. Also, militaries tend to be hierarchical, so if the boss says to stack your weapons in the corner and open the gates, that's what you do. Presumably he negotiated some form of safe passage or guarantees for the soldiers, right? Right? Where we going, guys? They said that ISIS executed some of the officers a few days earlier, do we know what happened to the commanding officer at the garrison?
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I've been aware of Caro and his crazy exploits for a while now but I never really knew anything more specific than "Went to Libya, then went to Syria, now missing", so now after a little google I see that he actually fought alongside Libyan rebels? I was sure he was only playing journalist. He fought with the rebels (got his hand on a sniper rifle) and played medic too (didn't bother telling anyone he wasn't actually a *trained* medic though). Nothing like getting operated on by a noted schizophrenic.
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Pimpmust posted:He fought with the rebels (got his hand on a sniper rifle) and played medic too (didn't bother telling anyone he wasn't actually a *trained* medic though). Nothing like getting operated on by a noted schizophrenic. Goondom was well represented in that war, then?
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Torpor posted:
That's from some Iskander footage from Russia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zCzPzCiCE
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Pimpmust posted:He fought with the rebels (got his hand on a sniper rifle) and played medic too (didn't bother telling anyone he wasn't actually a *trained* medic though). Nothing like getting operated on by a noted schizophrenic. Didn't he *train* himself as a medic from youtube videos?
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mom posted:how hard would it be to cross into syria from turkey Too hard for someone to safely do it who has to ask SA. And really, there is no safely doing it, even for pros. Easiest way is to just join ISIS, but you better be a drat convincing "revert."
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cochise posted:Didn't he *train* himself as a medic from youtube videos? To be fair there probably weren't very many trained medics available. Honestly I respect an adventurer, the kind of guy who goes out to fight a war without the confines of the US Army. A proud tradition from the Spanish Civil War.
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cochise posted:Didn't he *train* himself as a medic from youtube videos? Why bother with that? Just read up on Hegel's posts on the military history thread about folklore cures for bullet wounds on the 16th century and hope for the best.´ Bring tons of rabbit foots with you.
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'Are we content with eating Nando's every week? Come to the land of jihad and shout Allah.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l#ixzz3Bo5haD6Q
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Well. Here's to hoping he's not being tortured anymore, at the very least. I guess he was just a crazy mofo with some balls of steel. A shame nobody could stop him before he threw his life away and earned himself a dosage of unimaginable suffering, and who knows what damage he actually wrought to others.
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cochise posted:Didn't he *train* himself as a medic from youtube videos? You don't need to know much to be more effective than the standard militia care, which is loading the wounded on a pickup and driving to the nearest hospital. Assuming you take the "first, do no harm" seriously and know your limits.
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Eating at Nando's? Almost as bad as having to live under an extreme religious dictatorship.
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Pimpmust posted:Their laws should give you some hints, some peculiarly specific stuff: I have this strange feeling that it was better at some point, several thousand years ago, and then there was some upheaval in the social and sexual structure of society, where far out edge attitudes asserted themselves and all these rules specifically meant to protect the sweet baby heart of a man began to find traction. Every single one of those listed bows to the War Machine archetype.
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Some Kurdish media are reporting fighting between IS supporters and Iranian security forces in Iranian Kurdistan. Can you confirm/deny, kustomkarkommando?
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Rotacixe posted:You don't need to know much to be more effective than the standard militia care, which is loading the wounded on a pickup and driving to the nearest hospital. This. It'd be like laughing because a guy trained himself on UXO disposal watching youtube videos and went to Syria. He'd probably be a leading expert on it there. Same is potentially true with Caro. It's not like you can't learn the basics of treating shock and various types of trauma on youtube. Just knowing CPR would save lives. Of course, he was insane, so I don't have much faith in his curriculum he put together.
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Has no one mentioned the "Laptop of Doom" that all the major networks are freaking out about?quote:Abu Ali, a commander of a moderate Syrian rebel group in northern Syria, proudly shows a black laptop partly covered in dust. "We took it this year from an ISIS hideout," he says. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articl...ction_exclusive Considering that the Pentagon couldn't figure out how to weaponize the bubonic plague (lol) it kinda amuses me that CNN et al. are flipping out at the prospect of bubonic plague grenades. It was kinda hard to keep a straight face when they were talking about that, and unless I've missed something I'm not exactly overly concerned about IS' chemical weapon ambitions.
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The Iron Rose posted:Has no one mentioned the "Laptop of Doom" that all the major networks are freaking out about? It sounds like some detailing the contents of my laptop. Regarding Caro's medical training, I think it was pretty much learning how to insert a drip from YouTube, then what he learnt on the job. He spent a lot of money on medical supplies, and got samples of Celox from the company who made it, I think in the end he said he had about $40,000 of credit card debt when he eventually was booted out of Libya.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Well. Here's to hoping he's not being tortured anymore, at the very least. He didn't have balls of steel, he had a fairly severe mental illness. It went untreated, and he was just sane enough to get himself wrapped up in something far beyond his ken. As a completely untrained medic, who knows if he actually even helped the people he 'operated' on. I guess it just bothers me to see the guy lionized. I remember his crazy rear end posts in GiP and everyone telling him that he was completely out of his mind. Even more shocking was when he actually went. It's sad, really.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:He didn't have balls of steel, he had a fairly severe mental illness. It went untreated, and he was just sane enough to get himself wrapped up in something far beyond his ken. As a completely untrained medic, who knows if he actually even helped the people he 'operated' on. He would have been a flameout going through nonstop therapy. At least this way he had something to be remembered for. This was his calling.
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