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Doctor Spaceman posted:Might be worth a look for a change. Orbspider couldn't make it?
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@mpwoodhead posted:Fiona Nash visits Aboriginal Medical Service & tells them they need a price signal to discourage doctor visits http://t.co/lPirH1dReo ![]()
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Crikey did something on student politics and fee deregulation.quote:Why aren't uni students jumping to the Left? The elephant in the room of course is over two decades of persistent chipping away at the value of student political power. UQ isn't mentioned in the article but I saw first hand how the Young Libs got themselves into power and systematically took down the Union back in the 80's. It's been downhill from there of course. The background to all of this is the fear of a popular uprising by intelligent, committed non-politicians as was seen in the 70's with the Vietnam marches. The youth wings of both majors were enrolled to turn student unions and councils into safe, irrelevant play-pens for student politicians which is how they've essentially stayed since the 80's. The degree treadmill got rolling and fee deregulation is the final nail. No one will have time or money to ask questions or have opinions.
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Haters Objector posted:Can somebody explain to me how the hierarchy of bank ownership works in Australia? For example, why does Westpac own Bank of Melbourne, BankSA, St. George etc, and not just merge them into one, rather than have them all competing for business? Also why does our regulatory system allow the big four to buy all the other banks? It's just a branding exercise. They don't "compete" with each other since they're geographically separate eg BoM is only in Victoria etc. Westpac also owns I think BT Financial which they also market separately. As far as I know they're one of the only banks in the world with this strategy. It's more about brand loyalty and perception than anything else. The same reason Unilever has separate deodorant brands for men and women (Dove/Lynx) - they can simultaneously empower women and objectify them without looking hypocritical. If you don't think about marketing or branding that much (and most people don't, I have to for my job), you'll be surprised to learn that in most consumer goods markets, 80% of the brands are owned by the same few companies.
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Last week there was an online poll for The Drum on the ABC website. It was spread liberally by many Greens and Labor supporters on #auspol Twitter for maximum attention. The poll asked: How do you rate Tony Abbott’s first year as Prime Minister? It was 4% pro Abbott after some 6000 votes, then suddenly there was about a huge influx of pro-Abbott votes, in the region of 5000 or so in about an hour, that figure kept increasing for some time after. #auspol people spread it even more to break the bots increase. It went back to a more respectable 65% 'bad' to 34% 'good' after 24,500 votes when the bots stopped. Someone wrote to The Drum and asked them to explain/amend the results or to take away the fraudulent bot votes. They actually did and this was the result. Overall bad 91% Overall good 7% Somewhere in the middle 1% Undecided 0% They took away some 9000 bot votes. An online poll obviously doesn't say much, most of the people who saw the poll got it from Twitter & I think Twitter is largely a progressive platform. But I guess what it does say, is that the pro-Liberals groups can't even allow an online poll to make them look bad.
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Stop the bots
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Cam Smith, FightDemBack's old Melb rep just wrote a pretty drat funny article for the Guardian on the Tony Abbot birther conspiracy. Aaaand pranked the gently caress out of them in the process http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/09/show-us-your-citizenship-why-the-tony-abbott-birthers-want-to-believe
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Ler posted:They took away some 9000 bot votes. Sure, but as long as they're obsessed with perception, that's a weakness. It's good that they're spending resources on this. Treating the electorate like a monolithic stupid blob will bite all of them in the end. If you want to worry about something, worry that Twitter wants to further monetise their assets by changing their algorithm to be more "targeted". That level playing field goes away and it's just like Facebook.
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webmeister posted:It's just a branding exercise. They don't "compete" with each other since they're geographically separate eg BoM is only in Victoria etc. Westpac also owns I think BT Financial which they also market separately. As far as I know they're one of the only banks in the world with this strategy. ![]()
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So is Mars a good company, or do I have to stop eating Wiskas?
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In University we had a case study that said the Mars brothers were basically giant loving assholes to everyone who worked there, but I dunno how true that was.
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ewe2 posted:Crikey did something on student politics and fee deregulation. Students and young people in general are also surprisingly conservative. The idea that things will get better when the boomers die off is a pipe dream.
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open24hours posted:Students and young people in general are also surprisingly conservative. The idea that things will get better when the boomers die off is a pipe dream. The reason that student politics don't swing to the left is that no one gives a gently caress about student politics except people who want to be career politians, and these people skew to the right. Students and young people in general are far more liberal than their older counterparts, they are just apathetic and so don't really bother voting in student politics.
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Shakugan posted:The reason that student politics don't swing to the left is that no one gives a gently caress about student politics except people who want to be career politians, and these people skew to the right. Students and young people in general are far more liberal than their older counterparts, they are just apathetic and so don't really bother voting in student politics. This had been my experience. UTS student election campaigns tend to be first in best dressed. Everyone votes for whoever hassles you in the bar first so they can tell everyone else 'sorry, already voted' and then go back to drinking.
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Palmersaurus posted:So is Mars a good company, or do I have to stop eating Wiskas? Pretty sure they were sourcing cocoa beans from West African child labour until very recently. Edit: Nestle too. Edit: I've just done a bit of reading on all the companies... Just don't buy anything from anyone ever. Ol Sweepy fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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I would consider myself heavily interested and emotionally invested in politics but I did not once vote in a student election because all the candidates from all sides were power hungry assholes who either wanted the uni to be their own personal fiefdom or wanted something to pad their resume when the next safe house of reps seat becomes available
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quote:At Melbourne’s RMIT, where students are voting all this week, the university’s Liberal Club is running for the first time in recent memory, although Crikey is told the club is without a candidate for women’s officer. While the club had one woman willing to run, it couldn’t find another two women to nominate her so she could appear on the ballot. This is hilarious
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Shakugan posted:The reason that student politics don't swing to the left is that no one gives a gently caress about student politics except people who want to be career politians, and these people skew to the right. Students and young people in general are far more liberal than their older counterparts, they are just apathetic and so don't really bother voting in student politics.
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Bompacho posted:Pretty sure they were sourcing cocoa beans from West African child labour until very recently. Nestle's also the one who promote their powdered baby milk over breast milk in developing countries. Lack of sanitation/education lead to people mixing it with unclean water and babies getting sick/dead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott#Baby_milk_issue
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T-1000 posted:Yep. Voter turnout is something like 10% i.e. the only people voting are the ones running, the ones harassing everyone else to vote and their close friends. Yeah I think I have mentioned in here before that some tactics that shitheels tried to use with me in the library were: "If you just vote for X/sign this, I'll go away and leave you alone". "Sign here, we are petitioning for more student study areas (Actual document titled differently)" "What, you don't care what happens at your Uni? That's pretty loving stupid, you should just vote for X anyway" Way to win over your constituents guys.
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Ugggggh it's loving student elections this week at campus. The two main tickets appear to be Stop Abbotts attack on students, support Palestine, attack discrimination on campus Vs Free breakfast, BBQ and beer
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Oh and then there is the RULC because they sure as gently caress aren't putting Liberal on their tshirts Edit: free Palestine is I believe young greens and free breakfast is young labor
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I don't really get why student elections become about supporting refugees and Palestine. They might be good things but those are not the services I expect of a university student union.
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Gough Suppressant posted:Oh and then there is the RULC because they sure as gently caress aren't putting Liberal on their tshirts Progressive Focus is a rainbow alliance of greens, trots, and unaffiliated lefties who never win anything for the reason that T-1000 has pointed out E: Apparently Progressive Focus changed their name to Stand Up this year Drugs fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Gough Suppressant posted:Ugggggh it's loving student elections this week at campus. Vote for the second ones because hopefully when they take power they will mandate a sausage sizzle for every voting booth in the federal election.
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T-1000 posted:I don't really get why student elections become about supporting refugees and Palestine. They might be good things but those are not the services I expect of a university student union. It's not really a new development. During the Vietnam war, there were care packages sent to the Viet Cong from australian universities. source: my sketchy memory.
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Plot idea for an Australian House of Cards: popular, hard-working deputy who has previously avoided leadership contests arranges sidelining of Treasurer through key leaks making him look rich and out of touch. After proving herself in a foreign affairs situation that Australia has no real involvement in, she eases the PM out by surreptitiously revealing that he is still a British citizen, and takes over in the interest of party unity.
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It's one of the things I remember from my Adelaide Uni days when SHY was in student politics. There was a massive focus on things like organising trips to refugee centres, Causes I full agree with, but outside what should be the focus of a university student union, and the type of political action that contributed to the Howard government going after and gutting student unions.
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Palmersaurus posted:So is Mars a good company, or do I have to stop eating Wiskas? What does your heart tell you? Basically any large multinational is guilty of loving over a lot of people. Once a company gets to that size, companies start loving with worker rights, farmers, factory conditions, the environment etc. Because the savings you make at scale far exceed the potential lawsuits, hit to reputation etc. Look at Apple, everyone's clamouring for their new products today, they couldn't keep a live stream up, yet they are responsible for some very lovely labour practices (at both the factory and programmer end of things). It's also why (despite the overly conspiratorial tone) Monsanto and pharmaceutical companies are bad, they do shady poo poo in search of higher profits. Hell you don't even need to be multinational, look at Coles and Woolworths.
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Nelson Mandela wrote in The Long Walk to Freedom that it was very good for his morale while he was in prison when he found out that he'd been elected president of the Oxford University Student Union in absentia.
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Palmersaurus posted:So is Mars a good company, or do I have to stop eating Wiskas? When in doubt choose the one that was made in Australia from Australian products. Most of our laws aren't poo poo and there is minimal child labour around for now.
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Just had a friend back out on me in helping getting a job at Coles. ![]() But bros before shifts, right?
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Palmersaurus posted:Nestle's also the one who promote their powdered baby milk over breast milk in developing countries. Wasn't it Nestle who said water shouldn't be some right and companies should be able to buy up reserves?
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Nibbles! posted:Wasn't it Nestle who said water shouldn't be some right and companies should be able to buy up reserves? Yeah that was them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C29_U0Ksao
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Yeah that was them. They deny it, of course. http://www.nestle.com/aboutus/ask-nestle/answers/nestle-chairman-peter-brabeck-letmathe-believes-water-is-a-human-right
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ewe2 posted:
Any ideas on how these changes could be wound back? open24hours posted:Students and young people in general are also surprisingly conservative. The idea that things will get better when the boomers die off is a pipe dream. That and the only visible student political action on campus these days seems to be slightly deranged and unwashed looking trots shouting incoherently into their megaphone or interrupting lectures to advertise some 'emergency day of action', not something most young people these days particularly identify with or want to be a part of. Gough Suppressant posted:Ugggggh it's loving student elections this week at campus. I can choose between 'Activate' and 'Stand up', plus a few minor groups like 'Free Beer', 'Free Carparking' and 'Free Palestine'. I have no idea which Young Whatevers are backing each of the groups, they all just look like your generic student politicians to me. Also apparently one of our trots is getting expelled for assaulting a woman who didn't vote for a resolution against Israel in some student council thing. I could be wrong but as far as I know the women wasn't even a Zionist, just didn't think the SRC meeting was an appropriate place for geo-politics. Anyway, the trots have put up posters everywhere blaming Pyne for this guy getting expelled.
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So The Union Royal Commission is investigating Julia Gillard's bathroom.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:So The Union Royal Commission is investigating Julia Gillard's bathroom. ![]()
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Frogmanv2 posted:When in doubt choose the one that was made in Australia from Australian products. Most of our laws aren't poo poo and there is minimal child labour around for now. That's fair enough, but it's still counter-productive if the profits from your purchases are going to transnationals who hide their profits in overseas tax havens and exploit the gently caress out of the third world anyway.
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Nauru is running out of water. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/nauru-detention-centres-running-out-of-water-emails-reveal quote:Detention centres on Nauru are experiencing serious water shortages and reserve supplies may run out, emails seen by Guardian Australia show.
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