Counter-Strike: Global Offensive - More pretty flowers added to compensate

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kcer: May 28, 2004; Today is good weather
for an airstrike.

CampingCarl posted:

Which reminded me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqkYmVWdxVE
Team works its way up relatively high up in the league(CAL-M I think) where matches start being cast and then gently caress around in amazing ways.

CS was just objectively better when you could 5 man stack, shoot boost and wallbang across the map.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 20:00

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# ? Jun 2, 2024 03:12

down with slavery: Dec 23, 2013; STOP QUOTING MY POSTS SO PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IDIOTS DON'T HAVE TO READ MY FUCKING TERRIBLE OPINIONS THANKS

There's really no reason to remove multi-person boosts other than hating fun. There are still a bunch of hilarious stacking boosts you can do on maps that nobody has any idea about. One of my new favorites is smoking outside and standing behind red box and boosting someone on top of my head to shoot over it into garage on nuke.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 20:15

Cuntpunch: Oct 3, 2003; A monkey in a long line of kings

kcer posted:

CS was just objectively better when you could 5 man stack, shoot boost and wallbang across the map.

That through-the-floor defuse on Nuke. Pure laughs.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 20:19

down with slavery: Dec 23, 2013; STOP QUOTING MY POSTS SO PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IDIOTS DON'T HAVE TO READ MY FUCKING TERRIBLE OPINIONS THANKS

Cuntpunch posted:

That through-the-floor defuse on Nuke. Pure laughs.

This still works in GO fyi (well, not the defuse, but the shooting the planter- which I've only successfully managed to pull off via tking my teammates after the round is over)

# ? Sep 13, 2014 20:22

real dilemma: Apr 12, 2007

Cuntpunch posted:

That through-the-floor defuse on Nuke. Pure laughs.

Had no idea that was possible and lost a CAL match because of it in like 2002; was such an angry teenager for like a week

# ? Sep 13, 2014 20:37

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

Jeza posted:

Not sure what others think, but in my own mind if two players have the best spawn as T's, it's impossible for CT to stop the first one getting down and very hard to stop the second - no matter their spawns. Any more than two players is almost certainly a death trap however. Also while we're on the matter of A rushes on nuke, please use both squeaky and hut. That is all.

You can also cause all kinds of havoc if you get down there just by yourself. Them not knowing if a T is going to pop up vents or out of secret or go up ramp is huge. Can't count the number of times I've done that and come up behind one playing mini or got an awper playing garage.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 20:43

Coleman: May 5, 2011; This just in: Beverly Hills 90210, Cleveland Browns 3.

kcer posted:

CS was just objectively better when you could 5 man stack, shoot boost and wallbang across the map.

I still legitimately don't understand the removal of multi-stacking. I mean, as much as I'd like them back, shoot boosting and wall banging you can kind of get why they'd remove it. But the multi-stacks were so good.

Coleman fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Sep 13, 2014

# ? Sep 13, 2014 20:49

Jeza: Feb 13, 2011; The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

Coleman posted:

I still legitimately don't understand the removal of multi-stacking. I mean, as much as I'd like them back, shoot boosting and wall banging you can kind of get why they'd remove it. But the multi-stacks were so good.

Because then we'd all break the maps in creative ways. As can be seen from this little playthrough on tuscan, without many fancy schmancy boosts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1p4ZmQiIyo

Also, I crumbled and bought the Operation Breakout thing but my first mission is just broken. I click play mission (P2000 kills on deathmatch) but they never register. What's up with that?

# ? Sep 13, 2014 21:08

CampingCarl: Apr 28, 2008

Jeza posted:

Also, I crumbled and bought the Operation Breakout thing but my first mission is just broken. I click play mission (P2000 kills on deathmatch) but they never register. What's up with that?

Mission counters only update at the end of a game and bot kills don't count.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 21:14

Elysiume: Aug 13, 2009; Alone, she fights.

What limits mission drops? At this rate the Operation is going to end before I get 6 more.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 21:15

Coleman: May 5, 2011; This just in: Beverly Hills 90210, Cleveland Browns 3.

Jeza posted:

Because then we'd all break the maps in creative ways. As can be seen from this little playthrough on tuscan, without many fancy schmancy boosts:

Yeah but stuff like this is found for every map every time it's released. When cbble first got added, a bunch of us were on the Goon server just looking for them, we figured out you could solo jump into the upper level of the tree, theres a small ledge boost in the back alley to A, a couple of "invisible bomb" plants. Multi-stacks shouldn't break too much, because anywhere it could be abused either already has a skybox or the skybox can be lowered to prevent seeing over/through solid walls.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 21:19

I AM BRAWW: Jul 18, 2014

Favela had the best map boost glitch lol

# ? Sep 13, 2014 21:20

Jeza: Feb 13, 2011; The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

CampingCarl posted:

Mission counters only update at the end of a game and bot kills don't count.

Son of a bitch. Thanks.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 21:26

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

I AM BRAWW posted:

Favela had the best map boost glitch lol

This is the only one I used consistently because it would take like 4 or 5 rounds until the other team would figure it out.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 21:27

Pomp and Circumcized: Dec 23, 2006; If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.

Elysiume posted:

Does ranking up/down take into account personal performance or is it a standard Elo system that's just wins/losses?

There's a huge guide on the CS guides in your steam overlay.

tl;dr it's done on round wins and losses vs expected round outcome (NOT on match win/loss, it's done per round) and MVP only. No other statitstics.

But none of this is confirmed. Still a good read.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 22:00

HiipFire: Sep 1, 2013; JENNY DEATH LIVES

Does anyone know how to increase ingame voice volume, because even when I put voice_scale to 1 everyone still sounds a bit quiet

# ? Sep 13, 2014 22:24

Pomp and Circumcized: Dec 23, 2006; If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.

HiipFire posted:

Does anyone know how to increase ingame voice volume, because even when I put voice_scale to 1 everyone still sounds a bit quiet

Turn everything else down and turn your sound up.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 22:45

CampingCarl: Apr 28, 2008

ShittyPostmakerPro posted:

There's a huge guide on the CS guides in your steam overlay.

tl;dr it's done on round wins and losses vs expected round outcome (NOT on match win/loss, it's done per round) and MVP only. No other statitstics.

But none of this is confirmed. Still a good read.

I just went to read this and the first thing I noticed is that they presented no evidence at all to support their idea. I really hate articles like that because people always assume they are true even if later they are presented proof that it is wrong. That it is done per round is at least plausible and that the MVP always gets significantly more than the team is certainly something you would need to back up.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 22:49

Pomp and Circumcized: Dec 23, 2006; If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.

CampingCarl posted:

I just went to read this and the first thing I noticed is that they presented no evidence at all to support their idea. I really hate articles like that because people always assume they are true even if later they are presented proof that it is wrong. That it is done per round is at least plausible and that the MVP always gets significantly more than the team is certainly something you would need to back up.

Valve commented on it and stuff and didn't disagree with it. Though they did say CS uses a different system to ELO, which is what the guide is written about.

Please check you are sources.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 23:03

CampingCarl: Apr 28, 2008

ShittyPostmakerPro posted:

Valve commented on it and stuff and didn't disagree with it. Though they did say CS uses a different system to ELO, which is what the guide is written about.

Please check you are sources.

I read the Valve comment. It doesn't go against anything in my post. It certainly doesn't back up per round or MVP bonus. So at worst the guide is incorrect and at best it doesn't give any reason to believe it over the alternatives. At least last time someone ran a test.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 23:30

Pomp and Circumcized: Dec 23, 2006; If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.

CampingCarl posted:

I read the Valve comment. It doesn't go against anything in my post. It certainly doesn't back up per round or MVP bonus. So at worst the guide is incorrect and at best it doesn't give any reason to believe it over the alternatives. At least last time someone ran a test.

I've got to disagree with you on all of that, to be honest. The guide perfectly answers the question.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 23:31

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

Jeza posted:

Not sure what others think, but in my own mind if two players have the best spawn as T's, it's impossible for CT to stop the first one getting down and very hard to stop the second - no matter their spawns. Any more than two players is almost certainly a death trap however. Also while we're on the matter of A rushes on nuke, please use both squeaky and hut. That is all.

Oh, if it's so tight as to be spawn dependent then I'm sure I'm just not doing it correctly. I start getting hosed down when coming out of squeaky. I'm either not quick enough or I spawned too far back.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 23:33

CampingCarl: Apr 28, 2008

ShittyPostmakerPro posted:

I've got to disagree with you on all of that, to be honest. The guide perfectly answers the question.

You could make several changes to that guide and it would still answer the question perfectly. There are several possible ways the ranking system could work and we just don't know which is correct. That guide is just one of them and doesn't offer any reason to believe it compared to the others. The Valve post even says they use a different system than the one described in the guide. He could be right on some part, and could be wrong on others.

The only people who can actually answer the question is Valve and they likely won't ever do it. Any guide claiming they have solved it better have a ton of evidence to back it up or should be treated as just one of the several possibilities. This applies to pretty much every game with a matchmaking system too and people always get it wrong.

CampingCarl fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Sep 13, 2014

# ? Sep 13, 2014 23:53

mythadile: Jun 19, 2005

Is this breakout thing worth picking up for .99 or does it cease to do anything once the new operation is released.

# ? Sep 14, 2014 00:07

Jeza: Feb 13, 2011; The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

Just played and lost 16-1 against a 5 LEM premade, my team being 3 russian non-comms (actually they shouted during changeover) as a group and a polish guy. My teammates ranks at the end were: LE for the polish guy and DMG, DMG, MGE for the russians. Truly, a fair matchmaking and pleasant matchmaking experience.

Just going to run a body temperature bath and fetch a razorblade brb

# ? Sep 14, 2014 00:10

Photex: Apr 6, 2009

mythadile posted:

Is this breakout thing worth picking up for .99 or does it cease to do anything once the new operation is released.

it's worth it if you can complete a few of the missions for cheap skins

# ? Sep 14, 2014 00:15

Raymond Hog: Nov 28, 2013

mythadile posted:

Is this breakout thing worth picking up for .99 or does it cease to do anything once the new operation is released.

I got a 60 dollar skin from it, so yes

# ? Sep 14, 2014 00:29

down with slavery: Dec 23, 2013; STOP QUOTING MY POSTS SO PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IDIOTS DON'T HAVE TO READ MY FUCKING TERRIBLE OPINIONS THANKS

CampingCarl posted:

You could make several changes to that guide and it would still answer the question perfectly. There are several possible ways the ranking system could work and we just don't know which is correct. That guide is just one of them and doesn't offer any reason to believe it compared to the others. The Valve post even says they use a different system than the one described in the guide. He could be right on some part, and could be wrong on others.

The only people who can actually answer the question is Valve and they likely won't ever do it. Any guide claiming they have solved it better have a ton of evidence to back it up or should be treated as just one of the several possibilities. This applies to pretty much every game with a matchmaking system too and people always get it wrong.

I've got to disagree with you on all of that, to be honest. The guide perfectly answers the question.

# ? Sep 14, 2014 00:29

Apogee15: Jun 16, 2013

mythadile posted:

Is this breakout thing worth picking up for .99 or does it cease to do anything once the new operation is released.

2 case drops and you'll have made money from it, even ignoring the missions.

down with slavery posted:

I've got to disagree with you on all of that, to be honest. The guide perfectly answers the question.

Pengy has ruled in favor of XP. So it shall be written, so it shall be done.

# ? Sep 14, 2014 00:42

nftyw: Dec 27, 2006; It is a game... where you will put your life on the line.; Lipstick Apathy

I picked up one of those passes the day it went on sale, I got 6 missions last week and got six crappy skins, and a operation breakout case, the latter I sold immediately for 82 cents, which pretty much covered the cost of the thing though by now you're looking at a lot less for them. Apparantly it will go on for around two more weeks or so.

As far as the missions go, I just sat around on an idle server for a bit and then bam, two more missions appeared.

# ? Sep 14, 2014 00:45

mythadile: Jun 19, 2005

Already got 3 skins, worth it.

# ? Sep 14, 2014 01:19

HiipFire: Sep 1, 2013; JENNY DEATH LIVES

ShittyPostmakerPro posted:

Turn everything else down and turn your sound up.

but then my ears die whenever someone shoots an AWP

# ? Sep 14, 2014 02:09

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

HiipFire posted:

but then my ears die whenever someone shoots an AWP

Don't give them the chance. Kill them before they fire a single shot.

# ? Sep 14, 2014 02:20

HiipFire: Sep 1, 2013; JENNY DEATH LIVES

GAYMIEN SANDOW posted:

Don't give them the chance. Kill them before they fire a single shot.

ohh ok

# ? Sep 14, 2014 02:26

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

How to deal with AWPs, a tutorial in one step.

1. shotguns

Note: this works for everything

Push El Burrito fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Sep 14, 2014

# ? Sep 14, 2014 04:02

Elysiume: Aug 13, 2009; Alone, she fights.

Valve please stop unequipping my guns

# ? Sep 14, 2014 04:23

Vahakyla: May 3, 2013

I saw a drop of a red winter offensive case. What the hell?

# ? Sep 14, 2014 04:28

The Joe Man: Apr 7, 2007; Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

Vahakyla posted:

I saw a drop of a red winter offensive case. What the hell?

Pics? Does it say anything?

Sell it for a billion dollars.

EDIT: Well I guess winter is coming up, it's probably a weird glitch that dropped earlier than expected.

That guy's gonna get a billion dollars.

The Joe Man fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Sep 14, 2014

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