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On the one hand, the events that happened with the NFL need to be paraded around in broad daylight for as long as possible so that the appropriate parties get punished. But the majority of these ex-players are just completely out of their depth, and are not going to add anything to the conversation besides embarrassing themselves.
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Blackula69 posted:I posted it in the aftermath thread and I didn't get a single quote. Harsh, bro. Cris Carter owns tho
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Sep 15, 2014 20:08
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African AIDS cum posted:Don't disagree with what he is saying at all, just think all the moralizing is getting a bit much at this point What so you mean by moralizing? Are you referring to the discussion of a current NFL scandal or something else?
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NC-17 posted:On the one hand, the events that happened with the NFL need to be paraded around in broad daylight for as long as possible so that the appropriate parties get punished. Yes. Now did you actually listen to what Cris Carter had to say? Because it was emotional and relevant
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Sep 15, 2014 20:16
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Blackula69 posted:Yes. Now did you actually listen to what Cris Carter had to say? Because it was emotional and relevant I heard it early. He was great. But he's certainly the exception to the rule. Even in that broadcast.
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So... are we using this as the Adrian Peterson thread too or is someone going to re-open the other thread?
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Blackula69 posted:I'm cross-posting this poo poo because it's rad as heck. Cris Carter had some things to say about abuse and the NFL yesterday: Good stuff here.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I'm not sure about the league office but Ozzie Newsome is on record saying that Ray Rice never lied to the Ravens. Hard to imagine he would be honest with the team and then go fibbing to Goodell. Rice is dumb but even he would have to figure that Rodger and Ravens occasionally talk. Oh, that's actually underplaying how stupid Rice would be to tell the Ravens team officials one thing and the NFL another. From the OTL story disputing the claim that Rice had lied to the league: quote:The June 16 meeting in Goodell's Manhattan office was attended by Rice, his wife, two players' union representatives, Newsome and Ravens president Dick Cass. The presence of two Ravens executives was unusual, multiple sources have told "Outside the Lines." Team executives rarely accompany players to disciplinary meetings with Goodell, according to several lawyers who have represented players and coaches on NFL disciplinary matters. If Rice had lied to the NFL with Newsome in the same room, you would think Newsome wouldn't be out in the media saying that Rice told them the truth.
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Sep 15, 2014 22:16
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NFL players' union expected to appeal Rice suspension Tuesday (http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=461870). I mean I guess the NFLPA has a duty to represent its members but maybe pick your battles a bit better?
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Sep 16, 2014 06:09
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MakaVillian posted:NFL players' union expected to appeal Rice suspension Tuesday (http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=461870).
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MakaVillian posted:I mean I guess the NFLPA has a duty to represent its members but maybe pick your battles a bit better? Yeah, I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure the NFLPA has to fight this no matter what or else they allow precedent to be set, which would be terrible.
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Sep 16, 2014 06:16
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Fair enough
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MakaVillian posted:I mean I guess the NFLPA has a duty to represent its members but maybe pick your battles a bit better? Fines and punishment are something that should exist but the ability for a commissioner to arbitrarily and retroactively wield these powers should be contained. We see these abused for things like the A-Rod case where punishment was highly motivated by the incentive to shirk out of an agreed contract.
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Sep 16, 2014 06:19
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MakaVillian posted:NFL players' union expected to appeal Rice suspension Tuesday (http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=461870). As much as I would prefer it if Rice never played another down. It is completely inappropriate for Goddell to suspend Rice for two games, and then go back and suspend him for longer, for the same incident. Even if you believe the NFL didn't see the tape*, there is no evidence Rice lied about what happened in the elevator, and quite a bit of evidence to say he told the truth. "Because our own decision made us look bad" is not a good reason to suspend Rice a second time. *They saw the loving tape.
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Is there anything in the CBA that says an appeal has to be heard in however much time? I think the Josh Gordon thing was appealed somewhere around draft time, heard early in August and not decided until preseason was over. Do things change when it's in season or are they just going to put him off as long as possible so the media frenzy can die down?
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NC-17 posted:On the one hand, the events that happened with the NFL need to be paraded around in broad daylight for as long as possible so that the appropriate parties get punished. What may ultimately be the best thing to come from all this is that a lot of major talking heads like Eisen have realized they aren't equipped to talk about this poo poo.
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Sep 16, 2014 07:37
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BR is likely just trying to boost their numbers but they're reporting that multiple teams are looking at Ray Rice if he's reinstated.
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Atticus Finch posted:BR is likely just trying to boost their numbers but they're reporting that multiple teams are looking at Ray Rice if he's reinstated. Is one the Vikings?
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Bip Roberts posted:Is one the Vikings? Panthers have some hurt RBs right now also.
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Sep 16, 2014 19:45
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Wrong thread.
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MakaVillian posted:NFL players' union expected to appeal Rice suspension Tuesday (http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=461870). If they dont represent him, that is another lawsuit, hah.
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Oh the tangled webs we weave http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/sep/16/rihanna-cbs-ravens-nfl-ray-rice
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Sep 16, 2014 21:25
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 Jersey trade-in day!
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Chris James 2 posted:
Goddamn. Also rip rihanna's song. She sure overreacted.
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effectual posted:Goddamn. Nope, It's complete bullshit, she is literally the victim of domestic abuse and you are punishing her for being the victim.
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Sep 19, 2014 16:29
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Yeah, if any situation merited a public "gently caress you" it was that. For them to yank her afterwards is terrible.
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Sep 19, 2014 16:30
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CBS executive in $5000 suit: "I just don't think you understand the impact of domestic violence, Rihanna"
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Chris James 2 posted:
That's gotta be so depressing to Ray. (Good)
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Yeah they pull the Rihanna song because they think it conjures up the image of domestic violence when it just creates more of a media storm that results in CBS not supporting a victim of domestic violence.
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I know we're getting into ~victim blaming~, but didn't Rihanna defend Chris Brown? Most victims have circumstances that force them to stay with their abuser, but she just seems like a lovely human being.
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Sep 19, 2014 16:53
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three posted:I know we're getting into ~victim blaming~, but didn't Rihanna defend Chris Brown? Most victims have circumstances that force them to stay with their abuser, but she just seems like a lovely human being. She is a female in an extremely insular industry where pissing the wrong person off can completely gently caress your career up.
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three posted:I know we're getting into ~victim blaming~, but didn't Rihanna defend Chris Brown? Most victims have circumstances that force them to stay with their abuser, but she just seems like a lovely human being. Many victims of domestic violence think that they can fix or save their abuser. They feel they did something wrong and if they just try harder they can change their partner. There's more to it than just "well my husband pays the bills so I better stick with him".
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Dexo posted:She is a female in an extremely insular industry where pissing the wrong person off can completely gently caress your career up. Isn't Rihanna backed by Jay Z who bashed and threatened to end Chris Brown's career? Chich's story is probably more accurate, although I think that's pretty lovely for her to do. If you support someone who beats women, that's bad. I am willing to bet she is not the only woman that he has attacked. That type of action is well within her control, and I think if she wants to go that route, then CBS is justified in pulling her.
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Sep 19, 2014 17:09
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three posted:Isn't Rihanna backed by Jay Z who bashed and threatened to end Chris Brown's career? Wait, what? You're blaming an dv victim because she didn't leave?
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three posted:Isn't Rihanna backed by Jay Z who bashed and threatened to end Chris Brown's career? Drake has her back too
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I think that some of you guys don't really realize how much stronger you are than most women and how that fact by itself is pretty intimidating for a lot of women. She stayed with Chris Brown for whatever reasons and he was an rear end in a top hat. It's on him, totally. Not on her.
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three posted:Isn't Rihanna backed by Jay Z who bashed and threatened to end Chris Brown's career? I'm glad someone finally called that lying bitch out. Thank you. e: oh nm thought you were talking about Janay Rice
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Sep 19, 2014 17:19
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Is it Talk Like a Reddit Day or something
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Isn't the official story that they pulled the song because they wanted to spend that extra 5 minutes talking about Ray Rice
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Ray Rice needs to tat a picture of two feet in an elevator door on his neck.
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