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AVeryLargeRadish posted:ter-ror-ism freebooter posted:Going back to the ASIO kill powers thing for a second - have they now also been licensed to carry weapons? Because they couldn't before, which makes me wonder exactly how they are supposed to kill a terrorist in a ticking time bomb scenario. Run them down with a car? Krav Maga? King-hit them? The only times I can think of anything close to the ticking bomb scenario actually happening are in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, where suicide bombers have been tackled to the ground by extremely brave police officers or, in one case, a schoolkid - who are then killed in the explosion but the injuries to others are greatly reduced. If someone has a bomb, you're not going to be able to stop them setting it off if they know you are armed, nearby and going to shoot them. Unless they give every ASIO officer a sniper rifle, it's not going to be much good. And that's beside the point because literally any member of the population - or an ASIO agent - would be allowed to shoot a terrorist under that scenario because they'd be saving lives. No court would convict. This way it's just extra dodgy because it's not in the hands of the courts at all. Mr Chips posted:^^^ Wasn't that just the regular metropolitan police armed unit that did it, not MI5? ASIO shouldn't be first on the scene in that sort of situation.
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 Community announcment! I heard a couple of stories today about 08 number social engineering scams you may want to watch out for. They've been doing it for some time and being careful to target people on the do not call register, or in a specific suburb. This is anecdotal but I trust the source and there is something you can do if this happens to you. The first scam is to try and get details about peoples computers. The spiel is "your computer has a fault give us details etc". They will repeatedly ring and get abusive. My source's parents were harassed for 5 weeks with calls a dozen times a day. They threatened to change providers from A Telco Which Will Not Be Named, and contacted the Telecommunications Ombudsman. But then they met other local couples who had also been targeted and discovered that the simple way to make it all stop is to demand to speak to their manager. So they did. Within half an hour a representative from ATWWNBN hastened to assure them that the Ombudsman had been in contact and the 08 number would be "blocked". A number of things about this story smelt really bad to me. If asking for a manager really has that effect it sounds like someone from a telco is making cash on the side for Bad Guys: they didn't care that they weren't getting details, just enjoying the harassment, so someone else was paying them. And calling someone on the Do Not Call Register also points to someone having access, which no one outside telcos can have (in order to avoid calling them of course). Another detail was that the victims were actually told they were being called during "downtime" which sounds suspiciously like a call centre term. The source told me they had recently put themselves on the do not call register and were getting similar calls now, but they know what to do! Demand to get a manager, and they should go away. Scam 2: Another 08 number is calling people either on the dole or getting benefits (they are asking leading questions to be sure) on Fridays and the weekend, and claiming they are in line for a one-off payment of $1500 and they need to get details before they can receive it. If the person called refuses, they are threatened with being cut off. My source tells me they know of at least 8 local people contacted this way in the last week. Now this is simple, ignore them. Centrelink are never going to ring people on the weekend, nor threaten to cut people off. Much easier to cut people off and wait for them to contact THEM. So if this happens to you, tell the caller to get hosed, and report it to Centrelink! Hope neither happens to anyone, never give important details to someone who calls you without a good reason!
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Sep 22, 2014 12:46
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Pickled Tink posted:In what world does a person going "They hate us for our freedom, so we are getting rid of freedom" not sound like blatant surrender? Muslims just hate us for our negative gearing and mining subsidies.
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That first one is an oldie, and isn't very sophisticated - Typically these days the callers claim to be from Telstra and can get really aggressive and making bogus legal threats because the call recipient's so called virus infected computer is damaging Telstra's infrastructure. Their end goal is to get the call recipient to give the caller remote access to their computer where they'll scrape what ever data they can while under the guise of fixing the virus - then they'll demand payment for fixing the bogus fault, and if they don't get a CC number they'll gently caress with Windows so it requires a password on start up. Most of the victims I've dealt with are the ones who can least afford to be hosed over this way, but then the perpetrators are operating out of a call centre in India scraping a living off lovely call centre wages so death to whitey I guess.
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Sep 22, 2014 13:07
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Yeah my father in law gets that "Telstra" call every day like clockwork at 6pm.
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HookShot posted:Yeah my father in law gets that "Telstra" call every day like clockwork at 6pm. Same, but I haven't had it in a while. I used to get them from Telstra or from the Technical Dept of Windows.
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My FIL was getting those calls about a year or so ago. It persisted for a few months but we're not sure how it was resolved except that he finally got abusive back at them.
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If you've got a mancrush on Scott Ludlam and like seeing Liberals getting called out on their poo poo repeatedly this Qanda was really good. I was a little bit worried about the whole "Only a Liberal government can
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So I had a job interview at a Japanese Restaurant and one of the pre-requisites is to be able to speak Japanese. I lied, I don't speak Japanese.
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Brown Paper Bag posted:What's the alleged corrupt behaviour? It's not mentioned in the article. Missed this, sorry. They're keeping it really close to their chest - even the Deans are being kept completely out of it (we suspect because a couple of them are involved as well). Best as we can tell, it's a mixture of cronyism and abuse of organisation credit cards.
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Anidav posted:So I had a job interview at a Japanese Restaurant and one of the pre-requisites is to be able to speak Japanese. I lied, I don't speak Japanese.  this will end well.Can't even get a schadenfreude emote right Mr Speaker. ewe2 fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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Sep 22, 2014 14:11
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Language prerequisites are kinda bullshit. Just let me serve the food. It's hospitality, not the UN.
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Sep 22, 2014 14:15
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Lol. That's the spirit. Apply for that dentist position while you're at it.
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Sep 22, 2014 14:23
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You're faking a language but won't just lie and put down 10+ years experience in the industry or whatever?
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Robodog posted:You're faking a language but won't just lie and put down 10+ years experience in the industry or whatever? Anidav arrives for his job interview He grins sheepishly "nǐ hǎo"
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Anidav posted:So I had a job interview at a Japanese Restaurant and one of the pre-requisites is to be able to speak Japanese. I lied, I don't speak Japanese. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EeFa8QOq_Y
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If you say "sou desu ne" a lot, that'll fake you through about half of it. If you're lucky, "irasshaimase" when the customers come in will be the other half of it.
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Here's a quick primer Anidav: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XNaCgKeNLU adamantium|wang fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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ewe2 posted:phone scam stuff. I've gotten two you haven't mentioned there. "The Visa and Mastercard Security Department" which I regret to inform you I did not explore because it screamed scam and I asked them if they enjoyed working in organized crime, at which point they hung up on me. The other one was recently claiming to be from "Telstra Bigpond" asking me about my "Bigpond account". I am with a different ISP. Needless to say, they hung up on me again. They get really touchy when you ask them the pointed questions like "How much does your job earn you?" and "Does being a criminal come with workplace benefits?". Thus far my experiments have shown that they will hang up on me and not call me back that day if: I mention the fact that they are criminals (Only failed once). I pretend to not know who I am in response to them asking for me (with intense overacting). I attempt to serenade them. I engage in Grandpa Simpson inspired rambling. I speak in a high pitched voice. I refuse to talk about anything but kittencams.
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Pickled Tink posted:Thus far my experiments have shown that they will hang up on me and not call me back that day if: These are all excellent ideas, I'll pass them on!
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Contra Duck posted:Come now, in troubled times such as these we shouldn't be worried about petty partisan bickering, we need to band together and stand in unity with our brave leaders and brave diggers So, remember how Abbott was going to strip the orphans of soldiers who died fighting in the Middle East of their benefits? Yeah, he's still going ahead with that.
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Gorilla Salad posted:So, remember how Abbott was going to strip the orphans of soldiers who died fighting in the Middle East of their benefits? Jesus. Got a link?
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Anything that reduces blind nationalist zeal amongst Troops and Troop Families is fine by me
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Jonah Galtberg posted:Anything that reduces blind nationalist zeal amongst Troops and Troop Families is fine by me You are a fuckhead. Kim Jong ill fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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Jonah Galtberg posted:Anything that reduces blind nationalist zeal amongst Troops and Troop Families is fine by me This is a really dumb thing to say. You are punishing children for decisions made by their parents. Why are you always drive by shitposting your crap opinions in threads I like?
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I got one of those scam callers once. I just booted to an XP VM and image searched a bunch of huge black dicks and then wrestled the remote user for control of the mouse while screaming "do you like these bad boys?" into the phone. He did not like the bad boys.
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quote:Abbott bounces in polls after raids Hahah Australians are idiots... wait. poo poo.
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Jonah Galtberg posted:Anything that reduces blind nationalist zeal amongst Troops and Troop Families is fine by me Kill yourself. You have no idea what you're talking about. Cheers, a war vet's orphaned kid. Chiwie fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Sep 23, 2014 |
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Sep 23, 2014 00:46
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Given that News indicates a bump and Morgan a slump I for one am shocked that only Newspoll is being reported 
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Anidav posted:So I had a job interview at a Japanese Restaurant and one of the pre-requisites is to be able to speak Japanese. I lied, I don't speak Japanese. The interview wasn't in Japanese?
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SynthOrange posted:Hahah Australians are idiots... wait. poo poo.  Australia... nooooooo.
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Hey guys remember how IS is a death cult that wants to murder Australians?"The Guardian posted:It’s worth noting a contribution last night from the Labor MP Melissa Parke. Parke said two things – she’d had a death threat since speaking out against military engagement in Iraq; and she was still opposed to a military escalation in Iraq.
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Gough Suppressant posted:Given that News indicates a bump and Morgan a slump I for one am shocked that only Newspoll is being reported In reality of course, both indicate no change (at least on 2PP voting intention)
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phone posting, sorry if all the formatting is out ----------- Morgan Poll Update Abbott’s decision to ‘send in the troops’ fails to secure poll bounce: Young Australians comprehensively reject the Abbot Government  In mid-September ALP support rose to 54.5% (up 0.5%) increasing their lead over the L-NP 45.5% (down 0.5%) on a two-party preferred basis. If an election had been held the ALP would have won easily according to this week’s Morgan Poll on voting intention conducted with an Australia-wide cross-section of 2,922 Australian electors aged 18+ over the last two weekends. Â Primary support for the ALP rose to 37.5% (up 0.5% over the past fortnight) whilst L-NP primary support was up 0.5% to 38.5%. Support for the other parties shows The Greens rose to 12% (up 1.5%), the Palmer United Party (PUP) 4.0% (down 0.5%) while Independents/ Others fell 2% to 8%. Support for PUP is highest in the three States that elected Palmer United Party Senators: Queensland (7%), Western Australia (5%) and Tasmania (4%). Support for PUP is lower in the rest of Australia: Victoria (3%), New South Wales (2.5%) and South Australia (2%). Analysis by Gender Analysis by Gender shows ALP support well ahead amongst women: 57% cf. L-NP 43% on a two-party preferred basis. However, men also support the ALP 51.5% cf. L-NP 48.5%. Analysis by Age group Analysis by Age group shows the ALP still with its strongest advantage among younger Australians. 18-24yr olds heavily favour the ALP (76.5%) cf. L-NP (23.5%); 25-34yr olds favour the ALP (62.5%) cf. L-NP (37.5%); 35-49yr olds favour the ALP (55.5%) cf. L-NP (44.5%); 50-64yr olds favour the ALP (53%) cf. L-NP (47%); only those aged 65+ still clearly favour the L-NP (60.5%) cf. ALP (39.5%). Analysis by States The ALP maintains a two-party preferred lead in all Australian States except Queensland. New South Wales: ALP 55% cf. L-NP 45%, Victoria: ALP 55% cf. L-NP 45%, Western Australia: ALP 56.5% cf. L-NP 43.5%, South Australia: ALP 56% cf. L-NP 44% and Tasmania: ALP 55.5% cf. L-NP 44.5%. Queensland is level pegging: L-NP 50% cf. ALP 50%. Roy Morgan Government Confidence Rating The Roy Morgan Government Confidence Rating has risen to 95.5pts this week (up 0.5pts over the past fortnight). Now 42.5% (down 0.5%) of Australians say Australia is ‘heading in the wrong direction and 38% (unchanged) say Australia is ‘heading in the right direction’. The Morgan Poll surveys a larger sample (including people who only use a mobile phone) than any other public opinion poll.The Morgan Poll asks Minor Party supporters which way they will vote their preferences. *News Corp’s poll does not measure or reference the PUP vote! The Morgan Poll allocated preferences based on how people say they will vote – allocating preferences by how electors voted at the last Federal Election, as used by News Corp’s poll*, show the ALP (53.5%) cf. L-NP (46.5 %) – for trends see the Morgan Poll historic data table. Gary Morgan says: “Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s decision to commit 600 Australian troops to Iraq has failed to boost the Government in today’s Morgan Poll. This is unusual as the Morgan Poll has shown on past occasions that external security threats usually favour the incumbent Government. This was the case in early 2003 in the run-up to Iraq War and also in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. “In addition, Prime Minister Abbott lifted the Australian terrorism alert to high for the first time ten days ago (September 12, 2014) just before this polling period began. However, in contrast to what the Morgan Poll has shown in the past the L-NP has received no ‘poll boost’ in the past fortnight with the ALP (54.5%, up 0.5%) increasing their two-party preferred lead over the L-NP (45.5%, down 0.5%). “The small boost in support to the ALP comes despite a special snap SMS Morgan Poll last week showing a narrow majority of Australians (54%) approving of Abbott’s decision to send 600 Australian troops to Iraq against 46% that disapprove. Interestingly, the snap SMS Morgan Poll showed a majority of men and Australians aged 35+ approved of sending the troops whereas a majority of women and Australians aged 18-34 disapproved. “Supporting the sentiment amongst younger Australians against sending Australian troops to Iraq is a strong swing to the ALP amongst 18-24yrolds in today’s Morgan Poll.Now a huge 76.5% (up 15.5%) of 18-24yr olds support the ALP cf. 23.5% (down 15.5%) support the L-NP on a two-party preferred basis. “The extensive raids carried out last week against potential terrorists in Australia have had a strong impact on the electorate with a separate special snap SMS Morgan Poll last week showing a narrow majority of Australians (52.5%) support the death penalty being imposed for people convicted of a terrorist act in Australia that kills someone compared to 47.5% that are opposed. This is the first time a majority of Australians have favoured the death penalty being imposed for any crime since 1995 when 53% of Australians supported the death penalty for convicted murderers.”
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T-1000 posted:But what if ASIO officers are involved in a thrilling car chase through the streets of Sydney during a G20 meeting, which turns into a thrilling boat chase on Sydney Harbour, and then manages to jump onto the terrorist boat and fight the terrorists and set them on course for Fort Denison and then jump off, leaving the terrorists to slam into the fort and explode and our hero to swim back to safety? Do you want him or her charged with murder as well as damage to a heritage-listed building?  Unwelcome calls. 1800 805 996 Is the direct Telstra number for dealing with this. Log the time and date of the call(s). They will trace the call and block the originator.  We are so far through the looking glass now. It's bad enough that the community will profile people and call the cops. To then have your face on the front page of the paper for...? Being completely innocent. Can't wait for Crytalnacht part II (Part one was Cronula you big silly). In other horrid poo poo: From the Heart of Darkness posted:23 Sep 2014The Australian ADAM CREIGHTON ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT Well that was certainly persuasive especially as it will impact on the higher education sector and deregulation: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-23/uwa-to-hike-fees-30-per-cent-if-deregulation-gets-green-light/5762240 quote:UWA to hike fees 30 per cent if deregulation gets green light Muppet government. NOW WITH EXTRA ADDED TERROR! Speaking of: Someone else is smelling BS. http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/politics-with-paul-bongiorno/5762148 You'd have to listen to the audio. Long story short. It is established practice not to talk about security measures relating to politicians and protective security for operational reasons! The recent trumpeting of enhanced security measures flies directly in the face of thirty years of advice from PSCC and is unprecedented. I wonder why the sabers are being rattled against the shutters at parliament house so furiously?
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Controversial but putting it out there anyway: Anyone who runs around with beards like that is not a moderate Muslim and probably warrants some questioning if parked next to a nuclear reactor Not saying that beard = terrorist, but I am saying that beard equals at the very least believing in a very conservative strain of Islam And I don't trust anyone that takes any religion too seriously
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Grauniad posted:A sweeping suppression order will prevent reporting of controversial preventative detention orders used in last week’s counter-terrorism operations, indefinitely. A non-publication order preventing disclosure of any information about the use of the lock-up powers means details of the order will remain secret until a New South Wales supreme court judge rules otherwise. The judge’s ruling is so broad that a supreme court spokesman says even his name cannot be reported. Tip off journalists about the raids to make sure they are there covering it - then issue a suppression order to cover up any reporting of abuse of process. Win-win!
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If only all the members of The Beards would get arrested or questioned just for looking suspicious, that might be the only way to get through to Australia that we've gone too far.
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Cartoon posted:Unwelcome calls. You missed the part where this didn't work. They made excuses like "it has to go on for three weeks", complete bullshit since I know for a fact that it's actually more than 3 calls in 2 days. Don't forget the little fact that they were illegally calling someone on the do not call register, that alone should have spurred immediate action. To reiterate: the calls didn't actually get blocked after contacting that number OR contacting the Ombudsman OR threatening to cancel their a/c. It only stopped after they demanded to speak to a manager. Within half an hour Telstra rang them and said "oh the Ombudsman contacted us we'll block that number". Speaking of competition, the taxi industry's response to Uber is like buggy manufacturers demanding to be protected from trains. ewe2 fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Sep 23, 2014 |
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The SMH posted:Three fans 'humiliated' by police treatment at Roosters-Cowboys match So it looks like profiling is the new normal. edit: Joe Hockeys Scrote posted:Controversial but putting it out there anyway: T-1000 fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Sep 23, 2014 |
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