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What I found really weird was the commentators after the finish, saying (more than once) "Was Brock going to tap out to Cena?" despite the fact that Cena was pinning Brock, and didn't have him in the STF when Rollins struck. I don't know if they altered the finish and Vince was screaming outdated lines in Cole's ear or what.
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DeathChicken posted:Charlotte Flair beating Brock at Wrestlemania is the best possible option. Correct.
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Sep 22, 2014 20:24
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Bull Dempsey is the 1 who finally beat the 1 in 21 and 1
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I would really like the John Cena push if they gave Dean Ambrose the John Cena push instead of John Cena, who isn't as good as Dean Ambrose.
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sticklefifer posted:I had a thought - it would be hilarious if Rusev got the US title and then Triple H retired the belt just to spite him. No merger, no raising the belt to the rafters or whatever, just "gently caress you, you can't represent USA". And then have Rusev continue carrying it around anyway for heel heat. The answer is he wins and turns the belt in the Russian championship.It writes itself. Then you build up someone to take it back.
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Dias posted:I just think that last night's match stretched some things a bit too far. If Lesnar eats FOUR AAs, one of the most protected finishers in history, and is still able to kick out, how the gently caress do you book someone to beat him in a clean match? You'd have to punt the fucker off a cage Foley-style. Paradoxically, the whole setup for the match didn't help Lesnar look all that powerful, IMHO, even with the finisher spamming. To me, it didn't feel like Cena was being dominated and getting lucky, it felt like he had the momentum on his side for a good part of the match but Lesnar was the wrestling equivalent to a bullet-sponge. In truth, the whole thing felt like a WWE '14 match.
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Sep 22, 2014 20:39
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Power Windows posted:Am I crazy for thinking Ambrose should be the one to take the belt off Lesnar? His whole character is built around eating a metric fuckton of punishment and coming back for more. Even John "NEVER GIVE UP" Cena gave up; maybe it takes a deranged brawler with nothing to lose, who isn't afraid of his "dark side" because that's his only side. I like Ambrose but I think he'd do just as well or better to be Rocky 1 instead of Rocky 2. Just keep taking a beating and ultimately lose, but show his strength by getting up after. It'd be more natural for them to finish and then cool off this feud with Seth and then re-ignite it when/if Seth cashes the briefcase in.
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Yeah that whole "9/22" business has to be about the video game, the network is showing Part 1 of the Roster Reveal after Raw.
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If they did blood anymore, Brock making him pass out from blood loss would be neat. He's already at the Austin going after Bret Hart stage anyway with Rollins playing the part of Bret.
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cronox2 posted:Yeah that whole "9/22" business has to be about the video game, the network is showing Part 1 of the Roster Reveal after Raw. There is also a trailer out.
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Sep 22, 2014 20:50
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Minidust posted:The AA is far less protected than Cena himself. Even Miz at his chickenshittiest kicked out of it. It's kind of like the Angle Slam in that it's a "finisher" that gets kicked out of most of the time, but he's occasionally booked to win with it to mix things up. I agree that plenty of guys kick out of it, but it's definitely not something he only occasionally wins with. It's his primary finisher, with the STF being his second.
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Stealthed Zombie posted:What's that jobber looking guy doing to Ziggler? I don't think I've ever seen that move before. Must be a game exclusive move, no one would actually do that in real life. Cesaro? That's an uppercut. He does them all the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvkRuUwNrMk
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AmbassadorFriendly posted:Cesaro? That's an uppercut. He does them all the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvkRuUwNrMk 
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AmbassadorFriendly posted:Cesaro? That's an uppercut. He does them all the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvkRuUwNrMk He was making a joke about Cesaro's supposed "Some Jobber" status.
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Spikeguy posted:He was making a joke about Cesaro's supposed "Some Jobber" status. Also a dig on the seemingly missing giant swing that he never does.
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I thought the comment was odd for someone in the WWE thread. I should have gone with my gut. Oh well, at least we can all watch this video of Cesaro doing uppercuts.
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The only way to beat Brock Lesnar is to have Steve Austin toss him a beer and see what happens next.
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Is Bull Dempsy just a dollar store version of Bull Nakano?
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NienNunb posted:Is Bull Dempsy just a dollar store version of Bull Nakano? They don't even belong in the same sentence.
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NienNunb posted:Pro Wrestling is really really great right now thanks in very little part to WWE.
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Sep 22, 2014 21:32
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Basic Chunnel posted:The endless bleating about match endings does make a ton of sense when you realize that any given IWC forum is like 98% puro marks Please watch New Japan Pro Wrestling.
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Basic Chunnel posted:The endless bleating about match endings does make a ton of sense when you realize that any given IWC forum is like 98% puro marks And yet they love the bullet club 
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Blasmeister posted:And yet they love the bullet club Maybe because New Japan doesn't have even steven booking where interference happens literally every week.
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Just make the HIAC main match with Cena/Lesnar and let Lesnar go over and walk into Mania the champion against Bryan. I don't even care if it's an evenly-matched deal at HIAC, let them both get some shots in, then Brock just wails the living poo poo out of Cena with a chair/the steps/whatever until he can't physically get up. Cena might be a decent dude outside the ring but I'm tired of his hokey RAPADOO saccharine bullshit gimmick, he needs to get his rear end handed to him, take some time off, and come back with something fresh. Maybe some better acting classes so his promos can all be better, versus having a half dozen decent promos sprinkled in with "poo poo pee pee fart joke gay joke ha ha YOU CAN'T SEE ME" garbage
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I don't watch Puro but would still like match endings to be good instead of bad, which is what they almost always are. I don't know how that fits your narrative.
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Blasmeister posted:And yet they love the bullet club Too Sweet, Blasmeister
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Stealthed Zombie posted:Also a dig on the seemingly missing giant swing that he never does. NienNunb posted:Please watch New Japan Pro Wrestling.
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achillesforever6 posted:He's actually pulls out from time to time lately, but on shows no one watches like Main Event. Also if you are heel its pretty good way to get heel heat by teasing and then denying the audience the move they want to see. This is what happens when I pretty much only watch Raw/NXT.
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DeathChicken posted:Charlotte Flair beating Brock at Wrestlemania is the best possible option. I have never wanted anything more than this.
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I liked the Sheamus/Cesaro ending because it felt like that 'anything can happen' type of ending that WWE wrestling desperately needs more of. Normally it'd just be Sheamus shouting brogue a few dozen times while punching himself then his kick misses then he gets out of the other person's finisher and then finally hits his in the sequence we've seen a billion times before in almost every WWE match lately. The whole multi reversal sequence to a pin/submission is really overdone nowadays. This one was Cesaro backing him into a corner and getting ready to charge him in what looked like your typical corner spot and Sheamus catches him wasting time arguing with the ref then comes out of the corner with a quick finisher and pins him. More finishes need to happen at random times so that we don't automatically go 'Oh here comes the finish' in our heads. But the WWE template for a match that happens every time is a discussion worthy of a thread itself where you could probably break down matches side by side minute by minute and have them all appear the same if you really tried.
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 Oh, Jesus Christ, WWE Shop. Also you're many years behind. And that's the wrong font.
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projecthalaxy posted:I don't watch Puro but would still like match endings to be good instead of bad, which is what they almost always are. I don't know how that fits your narrative. cena sucks. what a lovely ending. lesnar losing insults our intelligence.
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Rand McNally posted:
Has Vince's pop culture knowledge finally reached the 2000s?
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Ambrose vs Orton set for tonight.
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cronox2 posted:Yeah that whole "9/22" business has to be about the video game, the network is showing Part 1 of the Roster Reveal after Raw. Don't get too excited for this by the way, it's the same thing as the Summerslam panel already on YouTube.
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I'm really really just tired of Cena at this point. He's the most uninteresting main eventer and bring down everything around him. I give no fucks about any feud he is in.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Ambrose vs Orton set for tonight. Ambrose and Orton seem like a great fit for each other. I'm very excited for this
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Minidust posted:The AA is far less protected than Cena himself. Even Miz at his chickenshittiest kicked out of it. It's kind of like the Angle Slam in that it's a "finisher" that gets kicked out of most of the time, but he's occasionally booked to win with it to mix things up. It's a protected finisher as in, it takes one to put you down in normal situations, two in "big" matches at most. An AA in a Raw match or against a midcarder is the end, period. More "important" people get to kick out of it in a PPV, but I can't remember a time where a second one wasn't the end - save from this match and when interference happens. Plus, it puts people down even when it's just a flash finisher. It's not the Tombstone (kinda devalued) or THE IMMORTAL LEGDROP BROTHER, but it's pretty protected. Not that that's a problem, seeing he's the face of the company and other people have had even more protected finishers in his position, it's just to illustrate my point about how the match was booked.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Ambrose vs Orton set for tonight. On the one hand, Ambrose battering Orton like yesterday's catfish should be fun. On the other, this only confirms my fear that Cena is stealing Rollins away.
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oatgan posted:Ambrose and Orton seem like a great fit for each other. I'm very excited for this i hope it actually happens and they get some time
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