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VLADIMIR GLUTEN posted:this is factually untrue, at least in Toronto, i had a disagreement with a friend about uber so i caught a cab and he ubered and i beat him by ~3 minutes on a 25 minute trip and paid $15 with tip and he paid something like $50 because of SURGE PRICING
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pr0zac posted:this is really not true either, esp if you put any value on your time at all, taxi drivers are crazy efficient professional drivers that know the city like the back of their hand and get across SF twice as fast as an uber usually wait is uber like an air bnb service for cars only instead of staying at someone's house where they might kill you you're getting into their car? cause if so lol
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Oct 14, 2014 21:07
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yeah all uber drivers are independent contracters, they bring just about everything at their own expense
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Oct 14, 2014 21:09
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uber is literally just a cab company but with apps and also they don't pay payroll taxes or follow governmental regulations on cars for hire because they're disrupting the industry.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:13
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i can't wait for the first uber/lyft murder
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Oct 14, 2014 21:19
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Bad Sneakers posted:wait is uber like an air bnb service for cars only instead of staying at someone's house where they might kill you you're getting into their car? cause if so lol the confusion is understandable: uber started out as a service to sell excess black car capacity. when that turned out not to be a billion dollar industry they went for the airbnb model
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Oct 14, 2014 21:24
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pr0zac posted:are you in SF? cause I definitely find this to be the case here and in other cities (Toronto most recently) I've had every kind of cabbie and many of them don't know basic poo poo about SF like "don't ever drive on market street" or "don't go up Powell because you will get stuck behind a cable car" cabs need:
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Oct 14, 2014 21:25
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what is it about cashless transactions that makes cabbies mad? serious question
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Oct 14, 2014 21:34
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its a logged transaction that you can dispute later on vs they've got your cash and now they're gone and you cant do poo poo if they ripped you off
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Oct 14, 2014 21:35
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qirex posted:I've had every kind of cabbie and many of them don't know basic poo poo about SF like "don't ever drive on market street" or "don't go up Powell because you will get stuck behind a cable car" is the transit authority so toothless as to be unable to push those as laws/regulations? if a cab in nyc gives you poo poo there's a number you can call immediately to report the cab, and all you need is the 4 letter cab ID
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Oct 14, 2014 21:39
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i dont know how you get past the super sexist or racist cabbies though, those are on the individual cabbie
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Oct 14, 2014 21:40
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carry on then posted:what is it about cashless transactions that makes cabbies mad? serious question the MTA charges 5% also they can't cheat on their taxes
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Oct 14, 2014 21:41
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Ripoff posted:i can't wait for the first uber/lyft murder there was a convicted felon driver who bashed his passenger's head in with a hammer a few weeks ago
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Oct 14, 2014 21:44
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Sagebrush posted:uber is literally just a cab company but with apps and also they don't pay payroll taxes or follow governmental regulations on cars for hire because they're disrupting the industry. fyi cab companies do the independent contractor scam too
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Oct 14, 2014 21:47
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Share Bear posted:is the transit authority so toothless as to be unable to push those as laws/regulations? the transit authority doesn't run the cabs, we still have a ton of independent companies that range from OK to complete trash but almost nobody who owns a medallion still drives they just rent their out for 85-95% of what a cabbie can reasonably make in a shift
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also quote:Taxi-hailing company Hailo said it was done with North America today in light of, “the astronomical marketing spend required to compete.” The company, which has raised some $100 million and first launched in London, had fought particularly hard to conduct its business in New York, where it was part of the first group of companies that got city permission to allow people to hail rides from an app. CEO Jay Bregman is out, and 40 employees will lose their jobs, a company spokesperson said. The move was earlier reported by the Financial Times.
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Oct 14, 2014 22:12
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carry on then posted:what is it about cashless transactions that makes cabbies mad? serious question in addition to having a paper trail forcing them to pay taxes on it and the mobile payment processors used to completely gently caress the cabbies (because the ones awarding the contract aren't the ones paying the transaction fees so they tended to not exactly be competitive) when cab drivers are usually just barely scraping by.
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Oct 14, 2014 22:15
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hobbesmaster posted:fyi cab companies do the independent contractor scam too but they still take out insurance
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Oct 14, 2014 22:23
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qirex posted:the MTA charges 5% also they can't cheat on their taxes don't forget driving "after hours" for a little on the side that you keep all to yourself that also happens to serve primarily wasted people that you can rip off because who else needs a cab between 3 and 5 am
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Oct 14, 2014 22:34
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:don't forget driving "after hours" for a little on the side that you keep all to yourself that also happens to serve primarily wasted people that you can rip off because who else needs a cab between 3 and 5 am you can't drive a cab "after hours" in nyc medallions are active 24/7, after your shift is done somebody else takes it
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Oct 14, 2014 23:32
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you can't drive a cab "after hours" in nyc i've had cabs do exactly that in brooklyn or maybe he just wasn't running the meter and demanding cash for a different reason, but either way he had no recourse when i told him it was card or nothing and got out
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Oct 14, 2014 23:39
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the only time it has ever happened to me is when i caught an owner/operator heading home for the day -- cut rate, no meter running if i was heading his direction given that medallions are now worth something like $700k, there are not a lot of owner/operator cabbies left. or medallions not rented-out by the shift.
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Oct 15, 2014 02:03
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the only time it has ever happened to me is when i caught an owner/operator heading home for the day -- cut rate, no meter running if i was heading his direction that would be kinda neat to have your retirement plan also be your retirement action
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Oct 15, 2014 02:05
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I've been usin flywheel and it suits my needs ok
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Oct 15, 2014 02:56
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you can't drive a cab "after hours" in nyc is it literally like a big gold medal on a ribbon that they have to hang around their neck. please tell me it is so
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Oct 15, 2014 03:03
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yes
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Oct 15, 2014 03:04
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theadder posted:yes
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Oct 15, 2014 03:13
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nah it's like a baton they pass off when two cabs pass each other
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Oct 15, 2014 03:15
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Jonny 290 posted:is it literally like a big gold medal on a ribbon that they have to hang around their neck. please tell me it is so 
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Oct 15, 2014 03:21
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an old roommate finished school and just did 10 years in NYC. then he visited SF once, went back to nyc and packed up his poo poo, he was gone in a month. i dont understand why ppl live there
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Oct 15, 2014 03:27
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Jonny 290 posted:an old roommate finished school and just did 10 years in NYC. then he visited SF once, went back to nyc and packed up his poo poo, he was gone in a month. i visited this weekend i have no idea why people live there just on top of one another like animals
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Oct 15, 2014 03:31
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sf is not really any better in terms of what you get for what you pay
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Oct 15, 2014 03:34
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I haven't been in NYC much but it seems very bad, super crowded, people are assholes, loud as hell, and the weather is complete poo poo
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Oct 15, 2014 03:37
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that's all true, but one ride on the caltrain or god forbid muni will drive home just how much of a joke city sf is
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Oct 15, 2014 03:40
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rotor posted:I haven't been in NYC much but it seems very bad, super crowded, people are assholes, loud as hell, and the weather is complete poo poo confirmed, all of it
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Oct 15, 2014 03:42
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rotor posted:I haven't been in NYC much but it seems very bad, super crowded, people are assholes, loud as hell, and the weather is complete poo poo see this is what i think of all california
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Oct 15, 2014 03:42
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rotor posted:I haven't been in NYC much but it seems very bad, super crowded, people are assholes, loud as hell, and the weather is complete poo poo agreed, OP. Can you probate Baron's for a laugh? thanks m8 
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Oct 15, 2014 03:47
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aaaaaaaaaaaaay, ima walkin' heeya!!
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theadder posted:see this is what i think of all california even im smart enough to know that bakersfield is probably a more accurate statistical snapshot of california than sf
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