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I wanted to see a turkey basted. Also I was drunk and I wanted to see what reactions it garnered. But you were the only person who really cared. ##unvote
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Somberbrero posted:Epsilon, I haven't responded to you because I feel it is a waste of my time, frankly. I am usually busy on weekends and you're not arguing in good faith. The idea that I'm unfairly focused on you is very silly, but something that you've been able to capitalize on effectively. You say that even when you scumhunt I'm all over you for no reason, and people buy into the emotionality of that because you're newer and I'm traditionally kind of a dickhead. I'm tired into playing into this negative feedback loop. I'd actually find that post interesting, so please make it. I legitimately don't believe you've had good enough reasons thus far for zeroing in on EP, so a decent post outlining your case would be nice.
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Oct 19, 2014 23:42
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hi sorry i'm training the new guy at work, I don't have a lot of time. I started working on a post six hours ago let me see if I still have it.
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Unless you guys plan on following me for Somber I'll be voting Opop before deadline to attempt to avoid another goddamn no-lynch. I'm not really feeling anyone else (maybe pmom and the barest sliver of doubt on Hurt) Also loving lol at Somber who still can't even slap a vote on me down, are you just waiting to hammer me for the satisfaction of it or?
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I guess let's talk about this post first, if for no reason other than it is the most recent.Epsilon Plus posted:mfcrocker is posting and therefore... *activates Somberbrero Logic Inversion Gate* ... Is Scum ? ! ? It's just wrong to say that I voted Crocker for disagreeing with me. Crocker disagreed with me day one, notice that I wasn't voting him then. Here is why I think Crocker is scum. 1) Backs off tithin in an awkward way. 2) Crocker has been pretending like he's actually trying to contribute to lynches when each day, his contribution has consisted of voting me apropos nothing. This makes him look active enough to avoid suspicion and ensures that he doesn't get caught saying something out-and-out incorrect or using scummy logic, like Epsilon. 3) Crocker's reasoning does not make much sense from a town perspective, but it makes a lot of sense from a scum perspective. I want to be clear, the things that Crocker is saying do not make sense if he is town. So, clearly I was not voting Crocker because I disagree with him. Regardless of whether or not you agree with me, my reasoning is clear. How is it that Epsilon could have drawn the conclusion that I am not only a big meany contrarian, but also scum. I don't know why Epsilon would imply otherwise. His entire game is emotional appeal after emotional appeal. I'd ask anyone whose eyes haven't glazed over this: "Do you think that I was pushing Crocker because he disagreed with me? Do you think that's a valid interpretation of my posting if you don't think that? If you don't think that I was pushing Crocker because he disagreed with me and you don't see how someone could have interpreted it that way, why are you not voting Epsilon?" Epsilon Plus posted:Bullshit. You're better than that. You should at least have a guess when you've spent every other day naming two or three people. We'd be finding scum if Somber turned his talents towards someone else; there's no doubt he's a good mafia player and if he was more willing to look at someone else we'd be much further along. Instead, he's focused on me to the extent that I don't think he's even really considering other scum other than throwing out half-assed guesses. The fact that the only scum death this game was caused by other scum is worrying. Just read this out loud. So I am wrong to pursue two people as scum, because I should pursue ~two or three people~ as scum. Those are Epsilon's words. I am, however, pursuing two candidates as scum, so consider me confused. Also, I'm better than that? Better than what? Epsilon has played two other games with me, one where I did pretty well as town and another where I couldn't get him lynched as scum. How is it that I'm a good mafia player taking that into consideration? Right now Epsilon is voting me. Look up to that last paragraph. There's a bunch of handwringing and repeated inferences to the idea that I'm town, but wrong. How does that make any sense?
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Oct 20, 2014 21:27
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Somberbrero posted:2) Crocker has been pretending like he's actually trying to contribute to lynches when each day, his contribution has consisted of voting me apropos nothing.  this falls down to even the basic look at my post history in this thread or, say, Votefinder
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Oct 20, 2014 21:34
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You've had your vote on me at the end of the last two days previous. It was useless day one, I wasn't a candidate at all. Day two it works out slightly better since for whatever reason I was one of the two vote leaders, but you still weren't able to switch to the right candidate(Ep had two more votes I think) within a fairly large window. I don't think we could have lynched regardless but the point stands.
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Oct 20, 2014 21:39
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I'm not even pushing for you today Crocker. I'll definitely compromise lynch you because you're probably scum, but I'd like to lynch Epsilon. That post was made for your benefit, you asked for a more in-depth read of Epsilon.
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Oct 20, 2014 21:41
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I'm still happy to vote for Epsilon. I thought he was the right candidate yesterday. ##vote Epsilon Plus Sorry I haven't been around much. I have a friend visiting from overseas.
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Oct 20, 2014 21:43
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Epsilon talked about how I could move this game in the right direction if I just ~stopped tunneling him~ but what has Epsilon done this game? He's voted me and made a crazy person case on tithin. That is it! Oh, wait, he also joined the Apostate bandwagon. I have been completely right this game on flips and have pushed votes away from town players all game. AC was town. Kerro was town. tithin was town. Capps was scum. I called all of those and you must think I am scum playing for credit or I am town as hell. I don't believe Epsilon has given nearly convincing enough reason to think I am scum.
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Oct 20, 2014 21:51
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Somberbrero posted:Right now Epsilon is voting me. Look up to that last paragraph. There's a bunch of handwringing and repeated inferences to the idea that I'm town, but wrong. How does that make any sense? I'm sorry, I thought it would be in poor taste to mention that I think you're the scummiest, which is why I'm voting you. I admit I could be wrong, because I am not the most skilled, but you are currently my best choice. I thought it was obvious that I was voting you because I think you are most likely scum, and that is generally how you go about playing Mafia. I'll be sure to insult everyone's intelligence next time. I am phoneposting and as such cannot reply to everything but I would like to point this out: Somber, despite being apparently 100% sure on me, still hasn't voted for me. What is the deal there?
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Oct 20, 2014 21:52
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Somberbrero posted:You've had your vote on me at the end of the last two days previous. It was useless day one, I wasn't a candidate at all. Day two it works out slightly better since for whatever reason I was one of the two vote leaders, but you still weren't able to switch to the right candidate(Ep had two more votes I think) within a fairly large window. I don't think we could have lynched regardless but the point stands. Hammer day 2 was at ridiculous o'clock for me, and by your own admission you were a candidate for lynch. If I'd been awake at hammer, I'd have obviously moved over. It's rather odd that you think that makes me scummy instead of, say, one of the people who didn't vote at all. Somberbrero posted:I'm not even pushing for you today Crocker. I'll definitely compromise lynch you because you're probably scum, but I'd like to lynch Epsilon. That post was made for your benefit, you asked for a more in-depth read of Epsilon. I'm aware you're not pushing directly for me today, but you are continuing to try and paint me as scummy with lovely reasoning. I do appreciate the post on Epsilon but it didn't really convince me of much more than the dude being new - he's really not acting the same as Role Mafia where it was as clear as day that he was scum. Also Fiery do some work or get lynched
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Oct 20, 2014 21:54
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Somberbrero posted:I have been completely right this game on flips and have pushed votes away from town players all game. AC was town. Kerro was town. tithin was town. Capps was scum. I called all of those and you must think I am scum playing for credit or I am town as hell. I don't believe Epsilon has given nearly convincing enough reason to think I am scum. I went to check if this was true and yeah, this is a decent point. If you are scummy, then congrats on building up some town cred with me.
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Oct 20, 2014 21:59
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mfcrocker posted:Hammer day 2 was at ridiculous o'clock for me, and by your own admission you were a candidate for lynch. If I'd been awake at hammer, I'd have obviously moved over. I'm much less suspicious of someone who doesn't try at all, it indicates they aren't interested in looking good, which is not scummy. Regardless, this is one point of several. I'm not going to put more work into this today when I'm still on Epsilon. Make a better argument for someone else if you disagree with me or get on board. There aren't a lot of other people playing this game and we need all hands on deck. Epsilon Plus posted:I'm sorry, I thought it would be in poor taste to mention that I think you're the scummiest, which is why I'm voting you. I admit I could be wrong, because I am not the most skilled, but you are currently my best choice. I thought it was obvious that I was voting you because I think you are most likely scum, and that is generally how you go about playing Mafia. I'll be sure to insult everyone's intelligence next time. It doesn't matter when I vote for you. I can vote for you whenever. I'm not fighting another vote candidate because no one cares. Here, ##vote Epsilon. What would you infer about my alignment from that action? If you can honestly sum up the above post I made as "Epsilon is scum because Epsilon is scum" then I'm not sure what to say to you. That seems blatantly dishonest.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:01
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Somberbrero posted:I'm much less suspicious of someone who doesn't try at all, it indicates they aren't interested in looking good, which is not scummy. I'm still very very happy with my vote, but I'll definitely be getting involved. I really don't want another no-lynch tonight 
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Oct 20, 2014 22:07
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mfcrocker posted:I'm still very very happy with my vote, but I'll definitely be getting involved. I really don't want another no-lynch tonight It's been a long day, would you mind giving me the bullet-points on Opopanax?
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Oct 20, 2014 22:09
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Oh wait, he's voting you sorry. I don't think you're voting anyone?
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Oct 20, 2014 22:10
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mfcrocker posted:Also Fiery do some work or get lynched I have and no.
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Somberbrero posted:Oh wait, he's voting you sorry. I don't think you're voting anyone? Haha, I made the same mistake as you and thought I'd voted him. Basically, he's done gently caress all except bandwagon vote. No scumhunting, nothing. I can't find a post here that helps town at all ##vote Opopanax because apparently I hadn't
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Oct 20, 2014 22:14
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Yeah I agree with that assessment actually. Or rather, I definitely think Opop hasn't helped town but I don't think that necessitates him as scum.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:18
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Somberbrero posted:Yeah I agree with that assessment actually. Or rather, I definitely think Opop hasn't helped town but I don't think that necessitates him as scum. It definitely doesn't make him dyed-in-the-wool scum but it does make me not want him to be in the game. I see it as a pretty safe lynch; at worst, we get rid of a town that isn't contributing, at best we get rid of a scum that's trying to dart under the radar.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:23
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I'm the only one voting you, I don't think that's a bandwagon. If i were voting EP that would be a bandwagon.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:25
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Opopanax posted:I'm the only one voting you, I don't think that's a bandwagon. If i were voting EP that would be a bandwagon. I'm an easy vote - there's been pressure on me from other players for a couple of days now. Face it, you've done no actual scumhunting or even contributed anything to other people's cases.
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Opopanax posted:I'm the only one voting you, I don't think that's a bandwagon. If i were voting EP that would be a bandwagon. How is that a bandwagon? FV and I have been voting Epsilon for days. do you have no reaction to any recent content? mfcrocker posted:It definitely doesn't make him dyed-in-the-wool scum but it does make me not want him to be in the game. I see it as a pretty safe lynch; at worst, we get rid of a town that isn't contributing, at best we get rid of a scum that's trying to dart under the radar. Yeah I like your reasoning here, you're not wrong. I'm just worried that town can quickly put itself into a nearly unwinnable situation if we off a quiet town and I feel better about my reasoning. Let me think on this. Eight alive, if both kills go through on town, which is still more likely than not, and we lynch town, that's five alive with three scum. That situation might be winnable, I think, but it's not somewhere I want to be.
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I'd switch to Opop, I was happy to vote him yesterday. I'd also like people to look at my post on Hurt from yesterday (the case is reasonably similar to the one on Opop). I'd be happy with a lynch on Hurt today as well.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:39
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From yesterdayfiery_valkyrie posted:##vote Dr Hurt
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Oct 20, 2014 22:40
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fiery_valkyrie posted:From yesterday He's been low content posting a fair bit but to say he's anything as bad as Opop is a hell of a stretch
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Oct 20, 2014 22:46
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Somberbrero posted:It's been a long day, would you mind giving me the bullet-points on Opopanax? Here is the bullet point on Opop: *He's doing his Opop thing of posting no content. *He's stuck a vote on Crocker and said "welp that's it for the day" and propped up his feet on Little Opop's head so he could relax and watch the hockey game. He says he's voting Crocker because of quote:mfcrocker posted: and gut. That's the entirety of his posting. And that's the entirety of people's cases 'gainst Opop.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:48
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Dr. Hurt posted:and propped up his feet on Little Opop's head so he could relax and watch the hockey game. I misread that and thought I was sitting absurdly cross legged
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Oct 20, 2014 22:49
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I'll vote Opop. (I think him jumping on my dumb flavour spec bandwagon with just "this is possible" is weird?)
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mfcrocker posted:He's been low content posting a fair bit but to say he's anything as bad as Opop is a hell of a stretch Yeah at least I'm not Canadian. Also TT has basically slipped through the cracks all game with callouts and sports talks and that stinks. Taste I wanna play mafia with you why are you hiding. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?
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Oct 20, 2014 22:50
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Oct 20, 2014 23:10
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Okay ##vote Opopanax
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Oct 20, 2014 23:10
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I think I could have been wrong on Crocker. It's easy enough to take his posts about of context and I like his reasoning as of late. I will say that Opop does this every game. If your thinking is that he's likely town but it's not a great loss, I'd ask you to consider how screwed we are if Opopanax is town and two town kills go through tonight. I dunno, I'll swerve to avoid a no-lynch but every day Epsilon continues to breath, a little more of my lifeforce drains away. At this point I would rather be proven wrong than continue to wonder.
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Tremendous Taste posted:I said I'd be around before deadline and I will Taste pulls through!!
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I do not  I just don't invent stuff as town and as a result I post enough to get noticed, but not enough to not get called a lurker, unless I find something and latch onto it.
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