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DrPlump posted:How to break Clicker Heroes: I really wanted to break Clicker Heroes with this script, but I tried greasemonkey and autohotkey, how in the world do I get this to work? Edit: I got the autoclicker to work with autohotkey, by pushing F8, but I can not get the F12 thing to work  .
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DrPlump posted:How to break Clicker Heroes: Window in foreground, it works great, but if the window is in the background it doesn't seem to receive the commands.
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Oct 18, 2014 15:52
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Make sure the window name portion of the ControlSend commands matches the name of your window. If you are on Kongregate do a find and replace on "Clicker Heroes - Mozilla Firefox" with "Play Clicker Heroes". Also make sure the game is open in a separate window it wont work if you have a different tab selected on the same window.
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Oct 18, 2014 16:30
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DrPlump posted:Make sure the window name portion of the ControlSend commands matches the name of your window. If you are on Kongregate do a find and replace on "Clicker Heroes - Mozilla Firefox" with "Play Clicker Heroes". Also make sure the game is open in a separate window it wont work if you have a different tab selected on the same window. It seems to be some weirdness with Chrome, and there doesn't seem to be a good solution. Oh well.
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Oct 18, 2014 17:24
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DrPlump posted:Make sure the window name portion of the ControlSend commands matches the name of your window. If you are on Kongregate do a find and replace on "Clicker Heroes - Mozilla Firefox" with "Play Clicker Heroes". Also make sure the game is open in a separate window it wont work if you have a different tab selected on the same window. I swear I did exactly what this says, but it didn't work. Eventually I just imported my save from Kongregate to ClickerHeroes.com and now the file works like a charm. Thank you everyone for your help, my advice is that if you're an idiot like me, just play it at Clicker Heroes.
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Oct 19, 2014 00:19
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MussoliniB posted:I swear I did exactly what this says, but it didn't work. Eventually I just imported my save from Kongregate to ClickerHeroes.com and now the file works like a charm. Thank you everyone for your help, my advice is that if you're an idiot like me, just play it at Clicker Heroes. I'm playing it at Clicker Heroes and using Firefox and it keeps giving me Syntax Error: Illegal Character. I suspect I will never be free of this game.
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Oct 19, 2014 00:57
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For Clicker Heroes, what does Dark Ritual mean by World? Is it 1 level, or the 10 level segment where everything has a similar background? Does it apply if you leave that World and come back?
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Oct 19, 2014 21:59
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Gensuki posted:For Clicker Heroes, what does Dark Ritual mean by World? Is it 1 level, or the 10 level segment where everything has a similar background? It means per World Ascension, so hammer away on Dark Ritual if you have it available. Energize if you can.
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Oct 19, 2014 22:01
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It's a global bonus that lasts until you ascend. If your DPS is 100 and you use energized DR, it'll go up to 110. If you then buy a hero that adds 900 dps, you'll go to 1100, (100+900)*1.10 Extremely powerful, worth using every chance you can.
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Oct 19, 2014 22:04
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Gensuki posted:For Clicker Heroes, what does Dark Ritual mean by World? Is it 1 level, or the 10 level segment where everything has a similar background? Like Oblivion said, it only resets when you use Amenhotep's "Ascension" to re-start from level 1 with no heroes. It also says "current DPS", but that's a lie. It adds a global multiplier (that stacks multiplicatively) which includes damage from heroes you buy after you activate the dark ritual. So you don't need to save it ever - unless you're waiting for energizer to come off cooldown which is always a good idea.
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Oct 19, 2014 22:05
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It's a global bonus that lasts until you ascend. This is from leaving the game running for a day or 2 using the AHK script I linked earlier. Damage without current Dark Ritual stacks: -97.5% (current DR multiplier is 45.259, ~40 uses)
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Oct 19, 2014 22:10
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When should I prestige in Wall Destroyer? I've got 24 cosmic knowledge and 1 boss brick. After speeding up a bit a while ago, it's started to go really slow again.
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Oct 19, 2014 23:01
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DrPlump posted:This is from leaving the game running for a day or 2 using the AHK script I linked earlier. Why do you insist on plugging this? Why even bother playing the game if you're just going to run a bot to play it for you that makes all actual interaction completely meaningless?
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Oct 20, 2014 00:55
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Safari Disco Lion posted:Why do you insist on plugging this? Why even bother playing the game if you're just going to run a bot to play it for you that makes all actual interaction completely meaningless? Specifically for Clicker Heroes, that game requires a ton of interaction for something that's supposed to be "idle". At least with AC I can buy a building or two, leave it for a day, come back, repeat, come back again, reset and get back to where I was in like 10 minutes. With Clicker Heroes, I have to dedicate quite a lot of time with it actively after a reset just to get back to where I was, plus progress is painfully slow until you get specific ancients and a really large pool of souls to work with. For example, I just spent 3 days getting to level 300, and that was after leaving my computer running overnight while an autoclicker program clicked over four hundred thousand times to boost my DPS up with Juggernaut just to keep me at an effective pace.
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Oct 20, 2014 01:05
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neogeo0823 posted:Specifically for Clicker Heroes, that game requires a ton of interaction for something that's supposed to be "idle". At least with AC I can buy a building or two, leave it for a day, come back, repeat, come back again, reset and get back to where I was in like 10 minutes. With Clicker Heroes, I have to dedicate quite a lot of time with it actively after a reset just to get back to where I was, plus progress is painfully slow until you get specific ancients and a really large pool of souls to work with. For example, I just spent 3 days getting to level 300, and that was after leaving my computer running overnight while an autoclicker program clicked over four hundred thousand times to boost my DPS up with Juggernaut just to keep me at an effective pace. It's no more effort than any other idle game I've played. You do a lot of stuff right after ascending, sure, but after you get going you can leave it for days and just check every couple of hours to upgrade stuff if necessary. I can get to where I was after an ascension in 10-15 minutes in Clicker Heroes, and if you're having problems with that (since you bought and are using Juggernaught but have trouble getting to floor 300, that tells me you have nothing in Siyalatas/Libertas, which is why you're running slowly), it's with your strategy, not the game. Running the EDR bot takes literally everything else out of the equation because of how powerful it is. Spend your gold once a day and you can probably cap everything out just doing that.
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Oct 20, 2014 01:22
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Part of the fun of idle games it automating the parts you don't like. Here are some additional links that are less cheating. The regild calculator is really good it has a chart to track change in DPS per gild. I was able to get 25% boost to DPS from spending 15 souls on regilds. Make sure you max your heroes out before you regild as it has greater effect at higher levels. Regild Calculator: http://theriebel.de/gilding/ DPS Graph: http://www.lancaster.ac.uk/ug/stennett/click/index.php
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Oct 20, 2014 15:00
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It's a global bonus that lasts until you ascend. It actually correctly calculates the increase after DR-ing, so it'd say 990 to the added DPS.
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Oct 20, 2014 16:32
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DrPlump posted:Part of the fun of idle games it automating the parts you don't like. I agree with this, but if you automate EDRs you might as well just run progress quest. The only meaningful interaction you have with the game is 30s of furious ability clicking to kill bosses and interacting with ascention/ancients, and this removes both of those. I'm a big fan of easy access math since nobody can look at that list of heroes and just know what the next best thing it, and autoclicking is fine although not my style. Part of the draw is that you have a moment where you sit down and do a bunch of stuff and think "man everything is going much faster and there will be many more numbers next time I sit down than last because of what I just did". Hell, I think wall destroyer was a great mostly idle very little clicking game before the prestige change, and now it basically requires an autoclicker. I'm still 4 building trophies and 7 prestige trophies away from where I was pre-change, and I have to break all the way up through finality gamma to unlock ONE of those 11 trophies. It takes 4-5 days to get that far idling where it might have been 1-2 days before. The system is better (higher walls give more prestige) but the implementation is crap because the scaling is so terrible. So for those of you asking about when to reset in wall destroyer: whenever you think you'll get another 1-3 trophies from your prestige, and get an autoclicker because that game needs a balancing pass pretty bad.
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Oct 20, 2014 20:10
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Chakan posted:It actually correctly calculates the increase after DR-ing, so it'd say 990 to the added DPS. It's the same result. pre:(100+900)*1.1 = (100*1.1)+(900*1.1) 1000*1.1 = 110+990 1100 = 1100
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Oct 20, 2014 22:12
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Clicking is a bad mechanic and your option is to either ignore the fact that a huge percentage of your users will use an autoclicker, or design for that, and both of those are terrible. Hover mechanics are the best way to reward attentiveness but I've seen basically one idle game use them.
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Oct 20, 2014 22:56
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senae posted:Clicking is a bad mechanic and your option is to either ignore the fact that a huge percentage of your users will use an autoclicker, or design for that, and both of those are terrible. Hover mechanics are the best way to reward attentiveness but I've seen basically one idle game use them. I've been checking out the incremental game subreddit and you wouldn't believe how angry people get at auto clickers. Like the people there legitimately want everyone to sit there clicking over and over and earn every click through hard earned dedication. Also they get really really pissy when games made on the cookie clicker engine get posted. Because that's not the subreddit for those sorts of games.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:07
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Len posted:I've been checking out the incremental game subreddit and you wouldn't believe how angry people get at auto clickers. Like the people there legitimately want everyone to sit there clicking over and over and earn every click through hard earned dedication. Part of the charm of reddit is separating things into arbitrary categories, and remaining slavishly dedicated to the idea of those categories long after they've stopped mattering. And by charm I mean worst flaw.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:21
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Len posted:Also they get really really pissy when games made on the cookie clicker engine get posted. Because that's not the subreddit for those sorts of games.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:27
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senae posted:Part of the charm of reddit is separating things into arbitrary categories, and remaining slavishly dedicated to the idea of those categories long after they've stopped mattering. Well, at least it makes some topics relatively easy to find. Like that kiddie porn ring that got shut down a while back.
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Oct 21, 2014 01:38
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Are there even any good ones? Wall Destroyer's last update ruined it, Coin Collector is dead now, is there anything left? There's been a couple okay ones that keep me occupied for an hour or so. http://clickerclicker.com/ this might be the most interesting one.
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I don't mind autoclickers since at least you still have to be at the game doing stuff but running the EDR bot removes literally all requirement for decision making or actually playing the game. Just run it for two weeks, only ever look at the game once a day to spend gold, and you'll come out of it with enough HS to cap out practically everything.
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Oct 21, 2014 03:24
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Does anyone know if the % chance to Primal Bosses ancient has an additive or multiplicative bonus? Do you hit 50% with it maxed out, or more like around 30% (when calculated with the base chance)?
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Oct 21, 2014 03:57
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It's additive. That's why he's one of the best.
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I've gone against most of the thread advice and gone bhaal solomon vaagur atman (and dogcog but I was kinda stuck with him) and doing runs to 500 right now, going up 100 every ascension. The primal ancients are amazing, and I'll probably go fragsworth next because I can clear 2 bosses with a 123457 combo. Really rewarding while playing, which is I guess what I'm after. I'll probably go idle ancients after that to boost my income while I"m sleeping/working but I don't get most of my money by a long shot from idling, it's all sweet gold loots from 30s clicking bursts.
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Oct 21, 2014 05:38
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  Now to get all the Phase 2 achievements (3000 of everything oh god)
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Eldercain posted:
Going from Brick building trophy to Reality Compromiser trophy requires you to do FOUR full resets where you kill every wall (including the very last wall) You get 1 million cosmic knowledge for killing every wall, and you need 6 million of them to unlock Reality Compromiser trophy... (You already have 2 million when you get Brick Building trophy, so 4 million missing) So basically you need to COMPLETE the game, FOUR TIMES, to get an upgrade that isn't even the last upgrade. Oh and when you reset you loose all your random bonus points, meaning it takes a couple of days of idling once you have everything but the last wall done to even get back where you were before you reset. But you HAVE to reset to get the trophies. The prestige system was far more fun before this gigantic fuckup to the game. I am currently saving for the Prestige Hacker upgrade, which generates cosmic knowledge as you play, but 2 days of idling and autoclicking 200 times per second and i am not even halfway to affording it yet.
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Oct 21, 2014 10:45
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Re:CH numbers
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Ineptitude posted:The prestige system was far more fun before this gigantic fuckup to the game. I love how in the update he even says that he intended the multiple kills of the final wall to be something he didn't expect many people to do, so why require it for trophies a lot of us had before this update?  Chop a 0 off of everything, and voila I've fixed your terrible prestige system. In other news, clicker clicker is pretty interesting simply as a means of discovery. He picked an odd assortment, but I'm giving the civ-flavored one a shot in hopes that it's a better put together catte game.
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Ineptitude posted:Going from Brick building trophy to Reality Compromiser trophy requires you to do FOUR full resets where you kill every wall (including the very last wall) You get 1 million cosmic knowledge for killing every wall, and you need 6 million of them to unlock Reality Compromiser trophy... (You already have 2 million when you get Brick Building trophy, so 4 million missing) It's really slow. I've only gotten 50k knowledge from it after a few days with an autoclicker and a lot more upgrades/dps than I had since getting prestige hacker. Also there needs to be a way to get 4th wall bricks faster. They're my bottleneck now.
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Oct 21, 2014 15:02
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I'm glad I won Wall Destroyer before the big update everyone is complaining about now. I get to remember it fondly instead of hate that I have to keep the tab open past its time. 
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Oct 21, 2014 15:07
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:I'm glad I won Wall Destroyer before the big update everyone is complaining about now. I get to remember it fondly instead of hate that I have to keep the tab open past its time. I was one unlock away from winning
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Dum Cumpster posted:It's really slow. I've only gotten 50k knowledge from it after a few days with an autoclicker and a lot more upgrades/dps than I had since getting prestige hacker. Also there needs to be a way to get 4th wall bricks faster. They're my bottleneck now. 4th wall only ever bottlenecks you if you autoclick, and even then it shouldn't be more than a few hours to get what you need for whatever you're working on. I was also one unlock away from winning, and I was doing well not refreshing the page till I accidentally closed the tab 
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I must be super bad at Clicker Heroes. The calculator I'm using is basically telling me to just ascend at lvl 100.
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Eldercain posted:4th wall only ever bottlenecks you if you autoclick, and even then it shouldn't be more than a few hours to get what you need for whatever you're working on. ? one of my upgrades requires 1e+22 4th wall bricks and I'm making 2e+16 a second. It's taking a while
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Irritated Goat posted:I must be super bad at Clicker Heroes. I think this is pretty regular as your souls/hour is ~technically~ highest if you babysit it constantly and just flush your hero levels into souls every half hour or so. It's also a cripplingly needy way to play an idle game and not particularly fun. I would say do short resets of ~10 souls or so until you max vaagur, then head deep for 300 or 400 with EDR rotations. I did a 300 and have been going 100 deeper every run for more gilds and to give myself a sense of progress outside of ancients.
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