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11 | 18.97% |
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| This New One (because it won't happen) |
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44 | 75.86% |
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if its anything along the lines Gabe gets insane amounts of money to go full Dixie, I'll be ok with that.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:06
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Guy can't make a DVD in less than 14 months but he's gonna change the business. I'll believe that when I see it.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:09
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coconono posted:if its anything along the lines Gabe gets insane amounts of money to go full Dixie, I'll be ok with that. A picture says a thousand words. There's huge money behind this tour. This tour is a basic audition which seemingly they have already passed if the near sold out rumours are true. Some on DVDR who lives posted the 90% thing and I heard it from another person too. This isn't an isolated tour of Nigeria or the Middle East that when it was first announced I thought it was. sportsgenius86 posted:Guy can't make a DVD in less than 14 months but he's gonna change the business. I was on the same bus as you initially believe me. rovert fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Nov 10, 2014 04:09
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It might take Vince 2 years to bury them with superior production values. 
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Nov 10, 2014 04:21
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How has the WWE generally drawn in China? I never hear about them touring there despite them being such a potentially huge and mostly untapped market.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:22
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If this ends with the Chinese buying TNA and putting Gabe in charge I am fine with that.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:24
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Thauros posted:How has the WWE generally drawn in China? I never hear about them touring there despite them being such a potentially huge and mostly untapped market. Open to total correction but from my understanding WWE isn't "allowed" in China: http://www.wwe.com/schedules/television/china Which is why this WWN China thing is so huge. WWN has first mover advantage and if WWE is blocked there a sustainable competitive advantage over WWE. I know WWE toured China in August 2013 for whatever reason. It is something a Chinese person could only really answer. rovert fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Nov 10, 2014 04:26
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rovert posted:The setup for the first WWN China show. Gabe finding a country that can fill his audience by forcing people in at gunpoint sounds about right
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Nov 10, 2014 04:29
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I suddenly saw a World Wrestling Network channel pop up on Roku. It seemed like it had a bunch of indie shows on it. Does this have anything to do with that? If not, what exactly is WWN?
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Nov 10, 2014 04:40
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Rovert's on the money this time fwiw.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:42
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John Cena posted:Rovert's on the money this time fwiw. Did you repost this on Neogaff then? Like my Nicole Winehouse joke?
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Nov 10, 2014 04:43
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:I suddenly saw a World Wrestling Network channel pop up on Roku. It seemed like it had a bunch of indie shows on it. Does this have anything to do with that? If not, what exactly is WWN? Yeah, it's ex ROH booker Gabe Sapolsky's distribution thing for the feds he books (DGUSA and Evolve) and a women's fed called SHINE that I think is another Dave Prazak project. http://www.wwnlive.com/index.html They're doing a Chinese tour with some talented guys like Ricochet: http://www.pwinsider.com/article/89407/wwnlive-china-tour-kicking-off.html?p=1
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Nov 10, 2014 04:45
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rovert posted:Did you repost this on Neogaff then? Like my Nicole Winehouse joke? I don't post on other forums.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:00
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That venue looks nice and I didn't know WWN is on Roku now, nice. Also I predicted EVOLVE becoming the most promotion in the world because of China on Twitter and definitely wasn't being ironic
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Nov 10, 2014 05:05
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John Cena posted:I don't post on other forums. Ah! I got confused between you and Daniel Bryan. Doh! epitasis posted:That venue looks nice and I didn't know WWN is on Roku now, nice. Was launched on Gabe & Co's last day in the US during last week.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:22
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As down as I am about Gabe for his Dragon Gate-related poo poo, I'm eager to see how this turns out.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:30
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the last couple Gabe shows i bought were pretty drat good so i hope this takes off because i know the talent is there
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Nov 10, 2014 06:24
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oatgan posted:the last couple Gabe shows i bought were pretty drat good so i hope this takes off because i know the talent is there The 2015 Indie scene is going to be interesting. Whatever is going to happen with TNA. The weirdness between GFW, New Japan and ROH. ROH's escalating childish resentment of PWG perhaps leading to a talent ban. Lucha Underground perhaps blowing up and the second wave of contracts being more restrictive. WWN in China taking off meaning big name talent won't even be on the continent for extended periods of time. The likely event of WWE skimming the cream talent wise by signing more people. What I am saying is it is a great time for a female indie Wrestler!
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Nov 10, 2014 06:39
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Lucha Underground will need to get on a better channel to rise above super-niche.
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Nov 10, 2014 06:47
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I'm not surprised these shows are doing well but at the same time I've seen so many companies get excited about early returns in China only for nothing when they follow up.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:44
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MassRafTer posted:I'm not surprised these shows are doing well but at the same time I've seen so many companies get excited about early returns in China only for nothing when they follow up. Didn't TNA's Indian spinoff do very well initially but the demand quickly tapered off? Obviously there's huge differences between the two countries but the similarites of boht being potentially massive markets that have never really had significant domestic pro wrestling.
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Nov 10, 2014 08:02
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Thauros posted:Yeah, it's ex ROH booker Gabe Sapolsky's distribution thing for the feds he books (DGUSA and Evolve) and a women's fed called SHINE that I think is another Dave Prazak project.
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Nov 10, 2014 08:47
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Cory Lidle posted:SHINE is a Prazak thing, but it's unclear how much his input goes into the product. Far as I can tell, Lexie Fyfe pretty much has the book, Daffney agents and helps booking, and Sal Hamaoui is there for logistics. Thought Sal was the main guy to be honest and Prazak was barely involved. Malia Hosaka's given role is probably an agent but she has ludicrous amounts of influence.
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Nov 10, 2014 08:57
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Why would ROH resent PWG? Isn't the entire reason they can use talent under ROH or WWN contract because they don't have TV and don't run iPPV, so they aren't direct competition with either?
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Nov 10, 2014 09:02
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Grozz Nuy posted:Why would ROH resent PWG? Isn't the entire reason they can use talent under ROH or WWN contract because they don't have TV and don't run iPPV, so they aren't direct competition with either? Delirious dislikes PWG as ROH wrestlers seemingly go out of their way to have better matches in PWG and talk about it in such glowing terms. Not too over do it my description here but contrast same wrestlers working at an ROH event kind of glumly punch the clock despite ROH paying them more. Apparently ROH/Sinclair office shares or is beginning to share in that resentment.
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Nov 10, 2014 09:23
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rovert posted:Thought Sal was the main guy to be honest and Prazak was barely involved.
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Nov 10, 2014 09:51
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rovert posted:Delirious dislikes PWG as ROH wrestlers seemingly go out of their way to have better matches in PWG and talk about it in such glowing terms. Not too over do it my description here but contrast same wrestlers working at an ROH event kind of glumly punch the clock despite ROH paying them more. Apparently ROH/Sinclair office shares or is beginning to share in that resentment. Also stuff like Trevor Lee going over then ROH Champion Michael Elgin in the second round of BOLA.
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Nov 10, 2014 10:34
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Re the ROH/PWG talent ban: http://www.pwponderings.com/2014/11/10/roh-talent-may-not-be-able-to-work-pwg-next-year/
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Nov 10, 2014 17:30
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Watch PWG outperform ROH show quality wise anyways. And I like ROH.
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Nov 10, 2014 17:32
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Who's even contracted to ROH anyway? Seems a ton of guys who work there like Roddy aren't actually contracted workers. It would blow for PWG to lose Cole and perhaps O'Reilly though.
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Nov 10, 2014 17:38
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Thauros posted:Who's even contracted to ROH anyway? Seems a ton of guys who work there like Roddy aren't actually contracted workers. It would blow for PWG to lose Cole and perhaps O'Reilly though. Incredibly, I could see Cole leaving ROH in the dust.
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Nov 10, 2014 17:39
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I mean, that's really only guaranteeing that anybody with another option doesn't sign with ROH.
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Nov 10, 2014 17:40
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At least Willie Mack and RockNess Monsters will have a big year there.
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Nov 10, 2014 17:49
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I could be wrong on some of these but in terms of talent that wouldn't be able to work PWG shows... - Adam Cole - Michael Elgin - Kyle O'Reilly - Bobby Fish - Cedric Alexander - ACH - Tomasso Ciampa - Jay Lethal Although it sounds like this would be predicated on them signing new contracts with new terminology so there's a chance everyone says gently caress you just to spite ROH. Roddy may be contracted with them again. Not sure.
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Nov 10, 2014 17:56
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Update on the Preacher after that really bad botch from Saturday.CZW posted:During the closing moments of the Six Man Scramble to name the #1 Contender for the CZW Wired Championship, Preacher was the recipient of a Death Valley Driver onto the ring apron. It was clear that Preacher was injured and was rushed to a local hospital. Throughout the day there has been many questions coming into CZW about the condition of Preacher. We are able to report that he was diagnosed with a fractured neck, however the positive news is that he alert and has control of all his body parts. Doctors have said that he will not need surgery, but will have to be in a hard collar for a minimum of 12 weeks. Preacher has been an intricate part of the CZW Academy as well as an important member of the production team in addition to his duties in the ring. This is truly a tough break for such a positive influence in the locker, however everyone is relieve that it is generally a positive outlook. Every member of the Combat Zone has Preacher and his family in their thoughts and prayers as well as wish Preacher the best in recovery. Preacher and his family thank all the fans for the well wishes in this trying time.
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Nov 10, 2014 18:12
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rovert posted:RockNess Monsters will have a big year there. Please don't say things like this
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Nov 10, 2014 18:15
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There's a lot of talent unhappiness towards Sinclair over their lack of investment in ROH, the restrictions on selling their own merch, people having long memories on signing contracts based on the plan of running 2 to 3 triple shot weekends a month, issues with booking between the lack of communication and the quality of it etc. I could see one or two people leave or more people going a bit more freelance and work without a contract.
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Nov 10, 2014 18:15
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rovert posted:At least Willie Mack and RockNess Monsters will have a big year there. RockNES Monsters could be the only people on the roster and I wouldn't see them having a big year.
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Nov 10, 2014 18:43
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Goodtime is fine. Yuma is loving atrocious.
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Nov 10, 2014 19:47
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rovert posted:There's a lot of talent unhappiness towards Sinclair over their lack of investment in ROH, the restrictions on selling their own merch, people having long memories on signing contracts based on the plan of running 2 to 3 triple shot weekends a month, issues with booking between the lack of communication and the quality of it etc. If this is indeed the case (and I know the merch thing is at the very least) the last thing they should to is try to prohibit guys from working shows they enjoy. As you said it's not like they're running enough dates for guys to make a living off them and this is just going to exacerbate morale issues.
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Nov 10, 2014 19:55
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