Albu-quirky Guy posted:

Corellian corvette (that we all assume is the Millennium Falcon)

Albu-quirky Guy posted:

I'm not sure how I feel about the classic "filming spaceships like WWII footage" cinematography vs. the trademark Abrams "filming spaceships like Transformers footage" dichotomy. The barrel roll unnamed Corellian corvette (that we all assume is the Millennium Falcon) shot looks wicked as hell, but it feels more like the new BSG than it does Star Wars.

jivjov posted:

It's a YT-1300 light freighter, not a corvette. A corellian corvette looks like this:

Metal Loaf posted:

Maybe it's not always elegantly done when Luceno does it, but it seems to me as though it's just a feature of how he writes in general and his world-building sensibilities (which I think are influenced a lot by Frank Herbert's Dune) in particular; indeed, it's my understanding Luceno received similar criticism when he was co-writing the Robotech adaptations with Brian Daley in the 1980s.

BatteredFeltFedora posted:

Interestingly, the Corellian Corvette was an adaptation of the original concept for the Falcon.



Still,

jivjov posted:

It's a YT-1300 light freighter, not a corvette. A corellian corvette looks like this:

BatteredFeltFedora posted:

Van Dis posted:

This is definitely gonna be awful, and I'm glad about that because 1) the poo poo-eating public can eat poo poo

Aurain posted:

All in all, the teaser was awful except the X-Wings, which were awesome because they're X-Wings.

Chairman Capone posted:

which makes me think that the rumors of John Boyega's character being a lightsaber-armed stormtrooper (as well as the chrome-armored stormtroopers) will also turn out to be true.

Antequek posted:

Are there any important plot points in the rogue squadron comics that I should be aware of before reading the books?

Chairman Capone posted:

The last third of the comic is about how Isard comes to power which plays a bit into the book series. Also, Isard's Revenge is pretty much a direct sequel to the end of the comic and has a few returning characters, and the smuggler woman from The Bacta War is also introduced in one of the comic storylines, but the majority of the book/comic series are separate.

buffybot posted:

Let's not forget about ol' Saber Knees.

Neurion posted:

How does he scratch his nose?

Antequek posted:

I think I might still check out the comic then, I'm trying to get the most out of the legacy canon before the new movie comes out. Just read the Thrawn trilogy, truce as Bakura and Shadows of the empire so now I'm moving on to X-wing.

pentyne posted:

Avoid anything by KJA. I obsessively read the Young Jedi Knights series when I was 11, and a year or two later I realized how poorly written it was. Literally everything that man writes is garbage.

Most of the good Legacy canon are the short series, one-off books, and comics. Once you get into the 20 book series with the Vong there's maybe 5 books that are actually good, the rest are just worthless filler.

SeanBeansShako posted:

Speaking of garbage, what is going on with those avatars? seeing them everywhere.

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Biographer Dale Pollock once wrote that Marcia was George Lucas' "secret weapon." [i] Most people are aware that George Lucas was once married, and probably some are aware that his wife worked in the film industry herself and edited all of George's early films before their 1983 divorce. But few are aware of the implications that her presence brought, and the transformations her departure allowed. She was, in many ways, more than just the supportive wife--she was a partner as well. "Not a fifty percent partner," as she herself admits, but nonetheless an important one, and the only person that Lucas could totally confide in back then. Today, she has been practically erased from the history books at Lucasfilm. Looking through J.W. Rinzler's Making of Star Wars, she is mentioned only occasionally in passing, a background element, and not a single word of hers is quoted; she is a silent extra, absent from any photographs and only indirectly acknowledged, her contributions downplayed. In the documentary Empire of Dreams, she is barely even mentioned in passing, except when the narration states that she edited the film and Lucas says he "got divorced as Jedi was complete" in the last two minutes of the supposedly-definitive documentary. Other products fare not much better, since many of them are published through Lucasfilm; her entire existence has nearly been ignored. Marcia Lucas, the "other" Lucas, has basically become the forgotten Lucas.

Perhaps it is the painful memories of the final unhealthy years of their marriage, during which Marcia finally left Lucas for another man and got a large cash settlement, that has prompted him to essentially never speak of her again. Indeed, it is a rare day when her name is uttered by him, even as "my wife" and other impersonal labels. Even in the 70s and 80s she was defined not on her own merits but by her relationship to George--she was not just Marcia, she was "Marcia, the wife of George Lucas", forever overshadowed. Yet nonetheless, Lucas and every fan of his films owe her a debt of gratitude. She was an instrumental part in the shaping of his scripts, and the primary force behind their final form in the editorial stage, where she cut the pictures herself. But more than that, she had a prolific and successful career of her own as an editor, and was a key figure in the New Hollywood movement of the 1970s; a secondary figure, perhaps, yet unlike other secondary figures such as Walter Murch and John Milius, her existence has been almost entirely forgotten.

In this article I will be taking a look at the life and career of Marcia Lucas (nee Griffin), and the impact and influence she had on her husband's films.

Such a piece has never been attempted before, whether in print, in video, or on the internet. Even on web pages all one finds is a couple of piecemeal trivia bits; forget about an actual quote from the woman herself or anything more than a handful of sentences. This is the first-ever biography of Marcia Griffin, and the reason why I decided to undertake such a piece. Marcia was a charismatic and talented woman, who had a significant--but basically unappreciated--influence on 1970s filmmaking, both directly and indirectly. In the direct sense, she was the primary picture cutter for her husband, George Lucas, as well as Martin Scorsese, in addition to the other films she edited and assistant edited. Indirectly, she was part of the social scene, as both Lucas' spouse and as a creative collaborator herself, and part of the inner circle of the influential "Movie Brats". Her opinions, her suggestions and her interactions formed and shaped the collective movement, and her subtle influence in this respect is especially unnoticed. She also, as I alluded to earlier, was a profound part of the cinema of her husband, who himself is one of the most successful and influential filmmakers in history. In fact, the only Oscar the Lucases ever earned was hers, for editing Star Wars ...

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"She was a knock-out," John Milius remembers. "We all wondered how little George got this great looking girl. And smart too, obsessed with films. And she was a better editor than he was."

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...It also led to some tension in the editing room. Cutting the picture together in the attic of their home, the long work hours and strenuous circumstances of its making sometimes brought out unpleasantries. "I like to become emotionally involved in a movie," she says. "I want to be scared, I want to cry, and I never cared for THX-1138 because it left me cold. When the studio didn't like the film, I wasn't surprised. But George just said to me, I was stupid and knew nothing. Because I was just a Valley Girl. He was the intellectual...


"After THX went down the toilet, I never said, 'I told you so,' but I reminded George that I warned him it hadn't involved the audience emotionally...He always said, 'Emotionally involving the audience is easy. Anybody can do it blindfolded, get a little kitten and have some guy wring its neck.'"

jng2058 posted:

However, reading Stackpole's I, Jedi take the piss out of the Young Jedi Knights stuff is pretty funny.

tribbledirigible posted:

Wait, did they put the rectangular deflector dish that was on what ended up being the Tantive IV in place of the circular one lost on the Falcon in a behind-the-scenes reversal of this

that only nerds could appreciate? Abrams might just be as spergy as the rest of us.

Carnaticum posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng

Everybody needs to see this.

Nckdictator posted:

Lucas was a dick to his wife (who was the only reason Star Wars is any good)

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/marcialucas.html