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Star Man posted:I will fight you. They're not wrong and you know it.
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Star Man posted:I will fight you. Only thing worse than an elf is a space elf.
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Dec 9, 2014 05:49
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Nalesh posted:Only thing worse than an elf is a space elf. yeah, gently caress the Asari
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Dec 9, 2014 06:07
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Aces High posted:yeah, gently caress the Asari There are several people who wish to do that.
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Dec 9, 2014 06:26
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Spudd posted:They're not wrong and you know it. Fight me, nerds. StarMan#526
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Dec 9, 2014 06:49
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Spudd posted:They're not wrong and you know it. Except the Protoss are actually likable? 
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Dec 9, 2014 07:06
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Yeah some of them don't even think humans should all die.
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Dec 9, 2014 07:41
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George posted:Yeah some of them don't even think humans should all die. Hell even the one who's here to purge the colony doesn't think humans should just die for being humans, they're going to burn the place because the colony is absolutely no questions infested.
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Dec 9, 2014 08:58
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Yeah we should totally apply this for all incurable conditions, like the current ebola outbreak :P Or maybe we could apply quarantine protocols, and spread the population up as much as they can that if one does go full brutalisk, it'll only kill and infect a limited number. Game logic sometimes escapes me.
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Dec 9, 2014 09:13
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Feinne posted:Hell even the one who's here to purge the colony doesn't think humans should just die for being humans, they're going to burn the place because the colony is absolutely no questions infested. When she submitted the paperwork for this purging, she sneakily checked the "Zerg" box instead of "Humans" for what was on the planet. Turns out the Zerg infestation was just a happy coincidence.
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Dec 9, 2014 09:22
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Samuel posted:Game logic sometimes escapes me. It's a colony, the infrastructure required might not be there for such an outbreak.
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Dec 9, 2014 09:41
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Purge the colony because it's the right thing to do.
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Dec 9, 2014 10:06
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Jobbo_Fett posted:It's a colony, the infrastructure required might not be there for such an outbreak. Also ebola isn't a sentient organism that actively tries to murder and consume entire planets. The zerg virus is basically space magic.
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Dec 9, 2014 10:41
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Ebola makes you get sick and die. Infestation makes you into a zerg spy who tries to spread the infestation to the entire species. And/or makes you explode violently.
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Dec 9, 2014 11:05
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Veloxyll posted:And/or makes you explode violently. Only when God gets bored and wants you to say something funny.
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Dec 9, 2014 11:25
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Only when God gets bored and wants you to say something funny.
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Dec 9, 2014 11:52
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I killed the colonists during my playthrough, so I'm going with Save the colony. Gotta see the alternate cutscenes.
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Dec 9, 2014 12:42
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Save the colony and use bullets to kill a bunch of shield mans.
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Dec 10, 2014 02:52
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save the colonists because gently caress elves
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Dec 10, 2014 02:54
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Spudd posted:They're not wrong and you know it. whoever the 40k guy was who got his poo poo all over Starcraft, I wish he'd leave. Sure, a lot of stuff has always been pretty close to 40k but it had at least a little separation before. In WOL, hahah, nope.
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Dec 10, 2014 03:43
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Save the colony. We haven't fought enough protoss yet.
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Dec 10, 2014 04:20
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Psion posted:whoever the 40k guy was who got his poo poo all over Starcraft, I wish he'd leave. Sure, a lot of stuff has always been pretty close to 40k but it had at least a little separation before. In WOL, hahah, nope. StarCraft is inspired, but you're right, that's about it. I've compared the Emperor of Man to King Arthur and the space marine primarchs to the Knights of the Round Table. But space marines are lifted right out of Starship Troopers and Aliens. Aliens from outer space being more advanced than humans has been a concept that's been around for a century. The zerg and tyranids are the bugs from Starship Troopers, the Borg, and xenomorphs.
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Dec 10, 2014 04:57
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People who like 40k seem to have this irresistible compulsion to compare absolutely everything to it.
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Dec 10, 2014 05:10
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paragon1 posted:People who like 40k seem to have this irresistible compulsion to compare absolutely everything to it. Eh, they'd have a point here if they ever bothered pointing out that the art of some of the zerg units looks really similar to nids beyond them both being bug alien races. Naturally I've only ever heard sperg about the totally original sci fi settings that aren't cliche and campy at all.
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Dec 10, 2014 05:25
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paragon1 posted:People who like 40k seem to have this irresistible compulsion to compare absolutely everything to it. I see it the other way, you can put ANYTHING in 40k and make it work. So, inevitably, EVERYTHING will end up in 40k eventually. In the case of Starcraft, though, there is a definite relation. … Well, they're all ripping off Tolkien, anyway. Orks (and Professor Tolkien actually preferred that orthography later on), Elves, Men, Dwarves, Bugs intent on devouring everything, etc. Ungoliant and her spawn count for the "Bugs intent on devouring everything".
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Dec 10, 2014 05:32
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Zerg = nids is going to be a comparison made forever, that's fine. The redesigned Firebats are an example of what I was thinking. It's fine to take the same archetype and put your own spin on it, but you could literally plonk the Firebat into 40k and nobody would blink. The Protoss Cult, also, cleaves a bit too closely. e: the only reason I bring this up is I swear a former Games Workshop guy started working at Blizzard about this time. Is that right? Psion fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 05:34
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The more I think about it the more it feels like everything in Starcraft BUT the Protoss are a whole lot like something in 40k. Seriously though mention absolutely anything even remotely scifi on the internet and someone will say X is just like Y in Warhammer 40k eventually.
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Dec 10, 2014 05:37
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paragon1 posted:People who like 40k seem to have this irresistible compulsion to compare absolutely everything to it. When you spend as much as your car on your hobby it becomes your life
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Dec 10, 2014 05:41
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paragon1 posted:The more I think about it the more it feels like everything in Starcraft BUT the Protoss are a whole lot like something in 40k. Eldar, they're just not humans with pointy ears.
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Protoss are hella different from humans dude. They're nothing like the Eldar. That's what spurred the whole conversation.
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Dec 10, 2014 05:47
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Protoss buildings that warp in units make me think they were inspired by Stargate.
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Dec 10, 2014 05:49
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paragon1 posted:Protoss are hella different from humans dude. They're nothing like the Eldar. That's what spurred the whole conversation. Hmmm. Ancient seemingly immortal race with psychic powers and a degree of a shared collective consciousness who plant psychic power crystals into everything, have a light/dark split between those who follow their orthodox religion and those who wished to retain their individuality and original culture, who warp in units and structures through a dimensional rift... nope, nothing like Eldar. Space elves aren't exactly something 40k came up with, but Blizzard and GW were drawing from the same general inspiration.
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Dec 10, 2014 05:52
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They both have absurdly pointy heads/hats. If you try, you'll be able to say THIS IS JUST LIKE IN 40K. Regardless of what we're talking about.
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Veloxyll posted:They both have absurdly pointy heads/hats. If you try, you'll be able to say THIS IS JUST LIKE IN 40K. Regardless of what we're talking about. Don't Eredar have mouths? Starcraft and 40k confirmed different. 
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Dec 10, 2014 06:01
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Just helmets. So many helmets.
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Dec 10, 2014 06:11
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It's not even a point of debate that WarCraft was originally designed as a WarHammer game, and that StarCraft was their 40k edition. What made the original games special was that they took inspiration from a million other things at the same time, but lately the formula has... homogenized.
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Dec 10, 2014 06:39
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IIRC back in the day, Blizzard wanted to make a Warhammer game but plans fell through, so they just did their own thing instead, it's just that "their thing" was probably heavily informed by playing tabletop in Metzen's basement. efb
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George posted:It's not even a point of debate that WarCraft was originally designed as a WarHammer game, and that StarCraft was their 40k edition. What made the original games special was that they took inspiration from a million other things at the same time, but lately the formula has... homogenized.
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Cythereal posted:Hmmm. Ancient seemingly immortal race with psychic powers and a degree of a shared collective consciousness who plant psychic power crystals into everything, have a light/dark split between those who follow their orthodox religion and those who wished to retain their individuality and original culture, who warp in units and structures through a dimensional rift... nope, nothing like Eldar. Yeah well you know more about Starcraft and 40k lore than I do so I win.
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Veyrall posted:Actually, isn't the whole "Bad guy was actually forced evil by this other, badder guy" ripped straight out of WoW? I always wondered why they bothered doing that, since I was okay with the orcs just being total assholes before Thrall showed up and dooming themselves. Because Metzen doesn't like the idea of a bad guy/evil race being bad and evil because they are bad and evil.
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