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T-1000
Mar 28, 2010

Nibbles! posted:

Diet nonsense moves units, that's why it sells. Everyone would love to believe that you undo your weeks worth of binge eating with a magic detox juice.

Diets like above can get traction as people get results from them without realising it isn't the magic diet doing it but the fact they're actually thinking about and monitoring what they're eating.
If all people did was keep a food diary, they'd probably lose weight, because they'd see how many times they're having a "treat" of a muffin, milkshake, ice cream, cake...

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Mr Chips
Jun 27, 2007
Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

Anidav posted:

The liberals would probably take the Fisher count to court, no?

If they've been propoerly scrutinising each vote counted, then they'd know if there was any point. AFAIK there's been no WA-style losing of boxes of votes. Even if that were the case, and the late swing against the Lib candidate was indeed due to federal politics, they'd be mad to push for a re-poll.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
Who wants to back my Kickstarter for alkalised raw milk?

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

Think you've got what it takes?
We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.
Toss in a Nutribullet so I can break it down to molecular level and I'm in.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

IslamoNazi posted:

Who wants to back my Kickstarter for alkalised raw milk?

Alkalised bath milk you mean.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

IslamoNazi posted:

Who wants to back my Kickstarter for alkalised raw milk?

Homeopathic raw milk

(it's water that vaguely remembers having raw milk in it).

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
My girlfriend uses these giant band aid pad things that stick to your stomach region and somehow makes you lose weight. Apparently a huge seller in South Korea.

i got banned
Sep 24, 2010

lol abbottwon
But do they prevent electric fan death?

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark

T-1000 posted:

If you look at the article, it's pure water and neglecting any dissolved CO2 etc. Over time, the hydronium ions concentrate at the surface.
It's more important for a bunch of chemical/biological processes, but I think it's kinda interesting to know you're ingesting a range of pH in even pure water.

Someone I know was on a thing called the alkaline diet where you were meant to eat more alkalkine things for [reasons] and it would improve your body's pH, despite your lungs and kidneys being responsible for regulating that. At its best it's good for the same things as that drat paleo diet: less processed food and sugar, more vegetables and a bit of meat. However the list of "acidic" foods to eat less of includes chicken, lobster, squid, some dairy, beans, buckwheat, carrots, peas, zucchinis, brazil nuts, hazelnuts, walnuts and dates; if you ate only those things in the right proportions, that would be a very healthy diet.

It's good that people are drinking electromagnetic water rather than soft drink, but not for all the reasons they're thinking it is.

Nifty. I think we're talking wear on the bee's condom by this point in terms of magnitude, but cool still.

I've no doubt pH plays a role in dieting, and maintaining a pH in parts of your body (such as gut) is likely hard to do when you're drinking 3 litres of acidic sugar concentrate a day. We're talking some reasonably large cause and effect, though, and rubbish like alkaline water hurts by detracting from discussing real impacts and muddying the water.

I agree it's better than soft drink, as long as it's made to some standards. I'd also love to see the industry be required to prove health effects to claim them, not doing so gives them unwarranted legitimacy. Buyer beware is one thing, skirting fraud to make money should be another.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

i got banned posted:

But do they prevent electric fan death?

Maybe

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?

Anidav posted:

My girlfriend uses these giant band aid pad things that stick to your stomach region and somehow makes you lose weight. Apparently a huge seller in South Korea.

Ok, you have to be some kind of troll account. This just entered into the realm of the absurd.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Mr Chips posted:

If they've been propoerly scrutinising each vote counted, then they'd know if there was any point. AFAIK there's been no WA-style losing of boxes of votes. Even if that were the case, and the late swing against the Lib candidate was indeed due to federal politics, they'd be mad to push for a re-poll.

There was an overnight correction in the vicinity of a couple hundred votes iirc but I don't remember seeing a full explanation of what it was from, boxes set aside or what have you.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Big Willy Style posted:

Ok, you have to be some kind of troll account. This just entered into the realm of the absurd.

My life exists for your amusement. No trolling or lies, just Queensland.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
Anidav is actually IWCs magnum opus

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

Quantum Mechanic posted:

It's entirely possible that if they pull votes away from the Greens and pull them back below Verity (remember, Labor's seeing a significant swing back towards them in NSW) that Greens preferences or exclusions could get the Libs elected, because Balmain voters can be really loving weird - think the amount of Prahran voters who went Lib to Green.

Wait are you saying that the Greens would preference the Liberals over Labor? Cause that seems too masochistic.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
No he's saying that some green voters would preference liberal over labor because they are weird

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

Pred1ct posted:

Wait are you saying that the Greens would preference the Liberals over Labor? Cause that seems too masochistic.

What Gough said. The Greens would either preference Labor or run an open ticket. Some Green voters preference Liberal 2, because the world is a dark and terrifying place.

It's worth noting that the preference flow from Labor to Green in Prahran was stronger than the preference flow from Green to Labor.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
There's also that bloc of voters who believe the majors are just two heads on the same dragon so they just do not care because it's lose-lose. A more careful voter would put the ALP ahead though since they might decide to gently caress you over a little less.

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

Quantum Mechanic posted:

Some Green voters preference Liberal 2, because the world is a dark and terrifying place.

To be inside that person's mind, to witness that cognitive dissonance. It's like an intellectual singularity folding in on itself.

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

Pred1ct posted:

To be inside that person's mind, to witness that cognitive dissonance. It's like an intellectual singularity folding in on itself.

Some of them are even members. We call them Tree Tories.

You have to remember, a part of the Green constituency is that European-style pro-capitalist environmentalist, and for a long time many liberal parties have been more pro-environment than industry-focused labour parties.

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

Pred1ct posted:

To be inside that person's mind, to witness that cognitive dissonance. It's like an intellectual singularity folding in on itself.

I dunno, just bog standard environmentally conscious shitstain rich folk. If your political understanding is bog standard shallowness of greens = environment, libs = business & labor = workers, it doesn't require much cognitive dissonance as it doesn't get enough brain time to show up.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Are Tree Tories the equivalent of Labortarians?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Quantum Mechanic posted:

Some of them are even members. We call them Tree Tories.
Conservatories?

No, that doesn't work...

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

Anidav posted:

Are Tree Tories the equivalent of Labortarians?

labortarians make even less sense as they fundamentally disagree with the founding principle of the party, as opposed to tree tories who only fundamentally disagree with 75% of the founding principles.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
I've eaten basically all the food I can shove into my fat face for like five days and today I dared myself to step on the scale and see how much damage I've done and I lost a pound.

Suck it science.

it definitely has nothing to do with the intense exercise from the ski season, nope

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Which begs the question, if there are neocons in the greens and libertarians in the ALP, are there socialists in the Liberal Party?

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Anidav posted:

Which begs the question, if there are neocons in the greens and libertarians in the ALP, are there socialists in the Liberal Party?

Liberal socialists? Probably not, in their coalition partners the national socialists are far more likely.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
you could probably find a couple. There always seems to be a few odd outliers in every party that you have literally no idea how they end up there but other then that not really as the economic views are completely opposite. In rural areas you do find quite a few agrarian socialist who might end up in the nationals, due to the nationals being meant to look after them. You can see it a bit in some of Katters polices which has small elements of agrarian socialist like protectionist trade polices and what not.

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Dec 13, 2014

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Were there nazi connections prior to Alexander Downer?

Its a shame the KAP didn't take off. The Nationals should get some competition.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
No, it is not a shame the KAP didn't take off. Bob Katter is a loving turd of a person, what the gently caress is actually wrong with your brain.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
It's a shame the KKK hasn't taken off in Australia, Danny Naliah could use some competition.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Why are people surprised that Anidav has terrible opinions?

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
I think he means that it is a shame because it is actually in the realm of possibility for KAP to take national seats and Katter is better than the Nationals.

Funny story. My brother teaches at our old school and watches the footy with our old history teacher. He is a National's member and had a picture of the queen circa 1964 in his class room in 2004, but he probably still does.

He was running late to watch a Broncos game and I asked my brother why he just first call him and he said he didn't own a mobile phone. I lost it .

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
To make the regions snap out of it and not think they will only ever get one choice. I know he is bad. Now the regions have to wait until The Greens take off in the rural electorates for any shakeup and or action.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
Independents seem to be the best hope for rural seats. They get shafted by pretty much everyone else.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Independents are fine but isn't Mcgowan literally a former Liberal staffer? Has she been a seat warmer or has there been cool things happening in Indi?

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Big Willy Style posted:

I think he means that it is a shame because it is actually in the realm of possibility for KAP to take national seats and Katter is better than the Nationals.

Katter might be a more honest representative for parts of rural Australia but theres no way he's better than the Nationals. Like, the Nationals are bad, but they've obviously improved since Joh and Katter is essentially a neo-Joh in terms of policy. The guy literally said gays don't exist in his electorate, I mean really.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I wasn't saying Katter would be better, I was saying something, no matter how terrible should take a few Nationals seats just so the regions stop sleeping at the ballot box.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
What about PUP instead of KAP? Or One Nation?

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Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please

Doctor Spaceman posted:

quote:

There's two main duties the ACCC undertakes: things the government has no role in whatsoever and things that can be left to state governments. On the very rare occasions when there is a genuine issue of competition policy, the matter can be decided by the Treasury department or directly by parliament.

I wonder how these people actually picture their ideal society, if they think it would be a utopia and not Mad Max.

Anidav posted:

My girlfriend uses these giant band aid pad things that stick to your stomach region and somehow makes you lose weight. Apparently a huge seller in South Korea.

Actually I also forgot the other big issue is the multilevel marketing nonsense that has people peddling all sorts dietary stuff you can buy for a third of the price at the supermarket and swearing black and blue that it worked for them. I pretty sure there's one which is those stickers you put on yourself to melt fat.

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