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Ler posted:Abbott gave Prince Phillip, The Duke of Edinburgh the order of Australia. Does Prince Phillip have pierced genitals?
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IslamoNazi posted:Does Prince Phillip have pierced genitals? I think that's a Prince Albert.
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Jan 25, 2015 23:10
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Chiwie posted:
Yeah, hosed up that someone would smoke a cigarette. Worse than ISIS, imo.
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Jan 25, 2015 23:16
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@vanOnselenP posted:Lib MP: "he combines the judgement of Gillard with the madness of Rudd". 
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Jan 25, 2015 23:38
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And the stupidity of McMahon
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Im gonna stay home and get high maybe play some video gameFruity Gordo posted:I wanted Rosalie Kunoth Monks to win Australian of the Year to see her brutal rejection speech. You will give yourself double cancer. Who knows whats in those flags. Chiwie posted:
Extremist!! 
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Jan 26, 2015 00:35
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So glad we're knighting British royals
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Jan 26, 2015 01:09
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This particular invasion day is actually a happy one for me - my wife is getting citizenship.
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Jan 26, 2015 01:12
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Waaaah the Christians are out to get me
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Happy Australia day everyone *grants knighthood 2 english royal* Also for some reason I was reading the comments for ray martins flag change-a-thon article on news.com and one reader importantly pointed out that "if we changed the flag it wouldn't be the same" and I feel like this simple yet extraordinarily perceptive statement exhaustively sums up the Australian anti-republican movement
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Jan 26, 2015 01:15
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Jan 26, 2015 01:16
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I guess the Queen is now Knight Rider
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Jan 26, 2015 01:24
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This is obviously one of Tony's pet wet dreams and he couldn't care less if it burns up political capital.
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Jan 26, 2015 01:32
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cpaf posted:Happy Australia day everyone *grants knighthood 2 english royal* I'm not anti-republic, but I can't bring myself to be pro-republic because I have even less respect for our political class than I do the Queen.
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Jan 26, 2015 01:34
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open24hours posted:I'm not anti-republic, but I can't bring myself to be pro-republic because I have even less respect for our political class than I do the Queen. Well if we assume the president would be a politically similar figure to the Queen, then we'd have the privilege of electing a disdainer-in-chief, to look aghast at the political class on our behalf.
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Jan 26, 2015 01:44
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open24hours posted:I'm not anti-republic, but I can't bring myself to be pro-republic because I have even less respect for our political class than I do the Queen.
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Jan 26, 2015 01:45
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Either/or. At the moment we're in a ridiculous limbo stage where the Queen is still our Queen and their flag is on our flag, but when we land at Heathrow we have to stand in line with all the other foreigners at passport control. Either become a republic, or go back to having open borders with the UK like we do with NZ. (I would be in favour of including Ireland and Canada too.)
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Jan 26, 2015 01:48
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The list of reasons not to become a republic is a lot longer than the list of reasons to become one, and the latter only really outweighs the former if you care about a lot of things that don't really practically affect anyone. I consider myself a republican but my biggest concern would be the requisite amounts of nationalism that would be stirred up on both sides leading up to a genuine non-hamstrung referendum on the question. Another major problem is, as you said, our present political class is entirely woeful and the prospect of relying upon them to do it right and potentially increasing their power is terrifying. Our constitution would require alteration and I think our constitution is a fine, utilitarian document which was drafted by people much more clever and foresighted than those who inhabit parliament today. That said, I find the idea of a hereditary ruling class at the top of a supposedly egalitarian liberal democracy entirely abhorrent and offensive, even when completely symbolic
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Jan 26, 2015 01:48
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cpaf posted:Our constitution would require alteration and I think our constitution is a fine, utilitarian document which was drafted by people much more clever and foresighted than those who inhabit parliament today. You really just have to remove the bits about the Queen and insert President, elected/appointed however it may be (and there are arguments for both; IIRC Ireland elects, while India appoints.) I still remember those ads from '99 which claimed THE FAT CATS WANT TO MAKE OVER 500 CHANGES TO OUR CONSTITUTION!* (*Most of which involve changing the word "Governor-General" to "President".)
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Jan 26, 2015 01:51
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Problem is, if you have an elected President and give him the powers granted to the GG / Queen by the Constitution you have an impractical government unless the President agrees to act on all advice by the PM
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Jan 26, 2015 01:57
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freebooter posted:This is obviously one of Tony's pet wet dreams and he couldn't care less if it burns up political capital. I think you're right. He has a boner for the british class system and this lets him rub up against it in the flesh. Basically he wishes he was one of the queens corgies. Tony abbott would be much happier in a diamond collar doing tricks for treats in buckingham palace than the current arrangement.
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Jan 26, 2015 02:00
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Quantum Mechanic posted:This particular invasion day is actually a happy one for me - my wife is getting citizenship. Congratulations! That's awesome. And now she gets to vote too! (or could she vote before? I've heard something about permanent residents getting to vote in some cases, but never really understood it)
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Jan 26, 2015 02:06
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cpaf posted:Problem is, if you have an elected President and give him the powers granted to the GG / Queen by the Constitution you have an impractical government unless the President agrees to act on all advice by the PM The Governor-General should just be appointed by the Senate.
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Jan 26, 2015 02:06
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Bifauxnen posted:Congratulations! That's awesome. And now she gets to vote too! Yup, she enrolled to vote (for me!) at a table next to where she signed in.
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Jan 26, 2015 02:08
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Finally some decisive leadership from Tones today! I watched this before getting out of bed today, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_EQGOsz7Oo yay
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Jan 26, 2015 02:11
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Do anglophiles exist in this day and age? Like, are they still gonna be around once Tony and his ilk finally die or are we gonna be stuck with them forever? Doctor Who fans don't count.
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Jan 26, 2015 02:23
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Do anglophiles exist in this day and age? Like, are they still gonna be around once Tony and his ilk finally die or are we gonna be stuck with them forever? Doctor Who fans don't count. Yeah, there's a few of them floating around still. A guy I went to school with has a massive hard on for the monarchy, we're 27.
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Jan 26, 2015 02:35
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We should force all monarchists to play Crusader Kings 2. I imagine that will change their minds pretty fast.
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Jan 26, 2015 02:43
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lol at people commenting on the knighting with "He's not Australian! Where's the patriotism!"
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Jan 26, 2015 02:45
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Abbott's response "social media is like electronic graffiti, you make a mistake to pay too much attention to it. Far better to listen to talkback ....... Oh poo poo".
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Jan 26, 2015 02:49
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My SOSE and History teacher in high school had a picture of the queen up in the class room. This was in 2004. He is now the school librarian, a Nationals Member and doesn't own a mobile phone.
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Jan 26, 2015 02:50
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Jan 26, 2015 02:56
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Even Latika Bourke is all wtf about it.quote:@latikambourke I actually had to read PM Abbott’s statement on Knighting Prince Philip 3 times and make someone else read it before posting this morn.
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Jan 26, 2015 03:08
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Ler posted:Abbott gave Prince Phillip, The Duke of Edinburgh the order of Australia. It's a fantastic bit of counter-trolling to stop people talking about Invasion Day and Taylor Swift's Hottest 100 chances.
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Jan 26, 2015 03:21
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Abbott keeps throwing out these sitting ducks, just ready to be smashed out of the park. God imagine if someone like Keating was around as opposition leader, the burns would be legendary.
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Jan 26, 2015 03:32
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Did my part for Australia day; gave the CEO of one of the worlds biggest humanitarian/refugee resettlement organisations (I won't specify which, since that would in effect give away the exact location of where I live since the event was in my auditorium) an opportunity to publicly profess his views on on the treatment of refugees in Australia in front of a large group of extremely wealthy and influential people. He was diplomatic in his response (not surprising since I'm guessing he gets a fair amount of funding from the Australian government), but stressed the dangers of developed countries regressing in some of the factors which allowed them to be considered developed and civilised. It was quite clear what his views were, even if he wasn't willing to publicly condemn the Australian government for wiping out foreign aid and torturing refugees (I gave him the chance; I used the phrase 'torturing refugees' in my question).
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Jan 26, 2015 04:02
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katlington posted:I think you're right. He has a boner for the british class system and this lets him rub up against it in the flesh. Potted psychoanalysis time. It's a pattern. A hardon for establishing himself in existing class and power structures. Hence the hardon for the military, and the monomaniacal focus on becoming PM in the clear absence of anything he really wanted to do with it. It's the climbing of greasy poles that lots of people who've never sat down and had enough time to introspect sufficiently do to keep themselves occupied and their self esteem up The only reason we have Knights at the moment is that Tony wants one at some point
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quote:"As I go around the state, people say to me 'Campbell, we know that the unions and criminal gangs have a close association'," Mr Newman said on Sunday.
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sidviscous posted:Potted psychoanalysis time. It's a pattern. A hardon for establishing himself in existing class and power structures. Hence the hardon for the military, and the monomaniacal focus on becoming PM in the clear absence of anything he really wanted to do with it. It's the climbing of greasy poles that lots of people who've never sat down and had enough time to introspect sufficiently do to keep themselves occupied and their self esteem up Tony was the face of the monarchist movement during the Republic debate / referendum in the late 90s. I think it's something he's got a genuine belief in.
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