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Starfleet cadet Picard gritted his teeth, spread his cheeks, and became a disciple of Mr. Boothby. From then on, he was part of an elite network of groomed leaders looking out for each other, all with impeccable credentials and sore assholes.
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Frogisis posted:Everyone else was even worse. Think how many hosed up or abandoned or destroyed ships the Enterprise is always stumbling on or rushing to bail out. Most other crews don't even survive their first encounter with crazy space poo poo, but Picard and the gang are like teflon. Exactly, Picard and his crew had just about the most dangerous job in Starfleet. Losing three ships under those conditions isn't a sign of incompetence, it's three times he was lucky to be alive. Which, naturally, leads one to wonder what the hell Starfleet was thinking letting the crew bring their kids along for the ride.
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Feb 1, 2015 02:57
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I thought he only lost one ship, the Enterprise D, and he wasn't even on it when it crashed. The Enterprise E was badly damaged several times but I don't recall it ever being destroyed. Or are we referring to the Stargazer too? But he didn't really lose that ship either. He got it back.
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Feb 1, 2015 03:00
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im pretty sure they got locked in a time loop that one episode, so he lost the ship like 100 times then
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Feb 1, 2015 03:07
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He kept his ship alive longer than most of Starfleet's ships, which were all exploded by Borg or computer sentient viruses of the week. Or the Dominion. Or time vortices. The real question is why Troi always was the top officer when the Enterprise crashes into planets and ships!
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Feb 1, 2015 03:09
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Dely Apple posted:He kept his ship alive longer than most of Starfleet's ships, which were all exploded by Borg or computer sentient viruses of the week. Or the Dominion. Or time vortices. Yeah, a.social worker in.charge. sounds.cool
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Feb 1, 2015 03:12
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Dely Apple posted:He kept his ship alive longer than most of Starfleet's ships, which were all exploded by Borg or computer sentient viruses of the week. Or the Dominion. Or time vortices.
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Feb 1, 2015 03:12
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Her captain's license test was to send Geordi to his death. And it was proctored by her bff. I uh don't think that's very safe Starfleet 
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Feb 1, 2015 03:33
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Dely Apple posted:Her captain's license test was to send Geordi to his death. And it was proctored by her bff. I uh don't think that's very safe Starfleet They knew no one would pass if the test involved killing a white guy. That's why Picard's decision to sacrifice Wesley's dad weighed so heavily on him.
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Feb 1, 2015 03:50
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Picard blew up Hella ships as Locutus of Borg. Like seriously. Gave Sisko some edge and hate. Sisko is the best Captain. Lead fleets, won wars, and always able to make hard choices. Outside of that he busted up the Stargazer, technically the Enterprise D was busted thanks to Riker and Troi but there were so many instances of the Enterprise D being hosed and alternate versions, and he nearly lost the E and then later crashed it into Tom Hardys Reman poo poo. Janeway was the most hosed poo poo. She got out clean and promoted for her bullshit.
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Feb 1, 2015 03:59
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tv show op he was the lead actor
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Feb 1, 2015 04:05
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He's boytoy for that JAG Admiral from 'Measure of a Man' - she was pulling strings behind the scenes.
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Gatts posted:Picard blew up Hella ships as Locutus of Borg. Like seriously. Gave Sisko some edge and hate. Sisko is the best Captain. Lead fleets, won wars, and always able to make hard choices.
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david... posted:tv show op he was the lead actor actually its a documentary from the future so this theory doesnt hold any water
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Feb 1, 2015 04:25
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They still gave Kirk more, and he blew up like five with the self destruct.
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Feb 1, 2015 04:27
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this is why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo
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thathonkey posted:is there a singular topic more insufferable to listen to people talk about than star trek? i figure this is the right thread to ask Its difficult to top people discussing the artistic merits of the Star Wars prequels. They set the bar so low almost anything being discussed seems palatable in comparison.
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numberoneposter posted:Kirk is the best captain because of that episode where this civilization has a simulated war between the two major powers but people are selected by computers on both sides to die and have to report to disintegration chambers and in order to stop this madness from happening he tells the Enterprise to glass the planet from orbit unless they agree to a peace treaty. Kirk gets what Kirk wants. Incidentally this is the best episode of TOS ever. The set design is proper ridic too.
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Hector Beerlioz posted:They actually hate Picard, that is why they filled his ship with kids when he hates kids. Glad someone involved with Star Trek hates kids, IYKWIM.
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Feb 1, 2015 05:01
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Because he could be trusted to keep his hands off troi's arse when she was being all "I am sensing...things."
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Feb 1, 2015 05:05
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ahh yes captain picard, the restrained and thoughtful captain.
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Feb 1, 2015 05:07
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Who is the real criminal here, Picard, or Kirk who wrote all those TekWar novels
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numberoneposter posted:ahh yes captain picard, the restrained and thoughtful captain. Put some Borg in front of him and he goes Gangsta on dey asses. Tommy machine gun buddha buddha bam bam
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mods?? MoDs??? i thought pedophilia was bannable on sa. gas this thread.
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I think the post-scarcity society meant all the cool spaceships startfeet could want, and so many people were just like "man in this great utopia nothing would bring me more satisfaction than building enterprises for troi to blow up" so jean luc got carte blanche in the ship department but I haven't read the series bible in a few months so let me get back to you when I have sources
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The Enterprise E wasn't lost though. So he's really only guilty of two counts of disastrous incompetence.
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THE PENETRATOR posted:mods?? MoDs??? i thought pedophilia was bannable on sa. gas this thread. cat ghost please drop in REM
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A more in universe explanation is that the Federation doesn't seem to have a shortage of ships, they have a shortage of crews. Like when the Defiant from DS9 gets destroyed, even though the Federation was getting it's rear end kicked in the war they were still able to replace it in a matter of weeks. Crews however are a different story. Just to get into Starfleet Academy you need a high IQ or the equivalent of a masters degree. Then passing the tests and getting through the training in the Academy is ridiculous and weeds out even more people. After all that, you are still likely to end up on a lovely assignment s like cataloging asteroids. and can only dream of being a captain of something important. There's also the "enlisted" route of Miles O'Brian, where you start off as an red shirt who's given a phaser rifle and given the orders to fight (get slaughtered) by the enemies of the federation. But even then the only way up is by doing stuff like "transporter officer" for years. So sure Picard trashed some ships, but he stayed alive, kept his crew alive, so he meets all the requirements for getting a new ship.
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Pretty sure I'm a red shirt irl
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Dely Apple posted:cat ghost please drop in REM cat ghost is descended dungeon... sorry mother fucker
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naem posted:Pretty sure I'm a red shirt irl did you died
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Lucky Guy posted:did you died I'm the one you see just standing around with nice shoulders in the background pretending to talk
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Shadoer posted:A more in universe explanation is that the Federation doesn't seem to Wesley Crusher mentions that being the helmsman of the Enterprise, the FLAGSHIP, gets him credits which allow him to enter the academy, lmao.
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Picard was a lovely captain but a good diplomat. They should have taken the Enterprise away and put him at an embassy somewhere on bumfucknowhere IV. edit: Remember when Picard and Crusher were training for special ops poo poo? That was not even remotely believable.
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opus111 posted:Wesley Crusher mentions that being the helmsman of the Enterprise, the FLAGSHIP, gets him credits which allow him to enter the academy, lmao. Yeah? The boy is portrayed as a super genius. Also, being allowed to do poo poo on a flagship while incredibly stupid should be a case in favor of being let into the academy.
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Jose Oquendo posted:Picard was a lovely captain but a good diplomat. They should have taken the Enterprise away and put him at an embassy somewhere on bumfucknowhere IV. DS9 was a little better, but even then Kira is fending off Klingon raiders and Sisko takes out a dude with a one hit double fist punch to the back. So Klingons are just paper tigers basically and Warf is a big glass jawed baby. This is getting hella nerdy but whatever.
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Don't they learn calculus in 4th grade?
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numberoneposter posted:one of the recurring problems of star trek. strike mission? yah ill go, im the blind chief engineer of a space ship, sure fine. On a tangent, that's one of the things I really loved about Stargate. The best weapons weren't the super advanced laser weapons that were just "weapons of terror". They were the good ol primative assault rifles which fired reliable led slugs.  None of this bs with people charging in with "bat'leths" or firing ineffective phasers that require you to be out of cover for a few moments to hit nothing.
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TNG had lame rear end Worf getting his rear end kicked. DS9 had Worf as a sufficient badass and some good moments. Like when he snapped Weyon's neck, another Weyoun clone comes out and the Cardassian Damarr makes a crack poking fun at him for being killed and go try talking to Worf again. Some Kanar with Damarr. 
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i loving love star trek gently caress the haters
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