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LP0 ON FIRE posted:it's not that netflix have been dicks really, net neutrality is just doing away with competition with other services. services that allow netflix will surely win over if it's popular enough to use new rules also allow local governments to setup broadband networks despite state laws crafted w/ the help of the big ISPs that's why they're pissed hth
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 20:47 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:nobody "wasn't allowing netflix" netflix just refused to follow standard internet procedures used worldwide. i know i'm saying if net neutrality didn't exist and rules against services blocking sites and stuff were a lot more lax
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 20:47 |
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theadder posted:this seems 2 be wrong oh i guess not i only skimmed this article quote:Pai claimed that an Internet provider could "find itself in the FCC's crosshairs" if it doesn't want to offer unlimited data plans. The FCC's order does not actually ban data caps; instead, the FCC is claiming authority to intervene when companies use data caps to harm competitors or customers.
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 20:48 |
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:i know i'm saying if net neutrality didn't exist and rules against services blocking sites and stuff were a lot more lax yeah but nobody was going to block them regardless, is the thing. other than discount mobile isps, like how metropcs used to do before tmo bought them lol
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 20:49 |
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also lmao @ the pure unbridled level of OOOOOBBBBAAAAMMMMAAAAA herequote:Let me start by issuing apologies. First, I am just sick about what Chairman Wheeler was forced to go through during this process. It was disgraceful to have the Administration overtake the commission’s rulemaking process and dictate an outcome for pure political purposes. It is so disturbing to know that those efforts were about illegitimately pushing a larger political cause mostly unrelated to technology. This administration went so far beyond what has ever been attempted, and its inappropriate interference in the commission’s activities will forever change this institution. thats a statement from one of the republicans who voted against this
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 20:50 |
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Stymie posted:it is bad because it will benefit google and other large online companies at the expense of customers yeah. congrats you idiots. hope you enjoy paying google for poo poo you don't want.
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 21:41 |
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but that's googles business model currently
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 21:44 |
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countdown until lowtacks receives a letter from the FCC demanding that LF be reopened
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 21:54 |
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Shaggar posted:yeah. congrats you idiots. hope you enjoy paying google for poo poo you don't want. why would i pay google anything, i'm the product
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 21:57 |
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:11 |
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wyoak posted:why would i pay google anything, i'm the product you will pay through increased ISP subscription costs. however, its still highly likely that this just causes ISPs to abandon new infrastructure improvements at their edges. either way its a terrible day for the internet.
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:17 |
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Shaggar posted:you will pay through increased ISP subscription costs. however, its still highly likely that this just causes ISPs to abandon new infrastructure improvements at their edges. either way its a terrible day for the internet. that or they go to pay per use which would make me lol super hard cause the big net neutrality proponents also torrent 24/7
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:18 |
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Shaggar posted:you will pay through increased ISP subscription costs. however, its still highly likely that this just causes ISPs to abandon new infrastructure improvements at their edges. either way its a terrible day for the internet.
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:18 |
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fyi data caps and associated fees for both broadband and mobile are now covered in the new rules and are a big part of why at&t is all pissy about it
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:20 |
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how do u even know what the rules are they havent released them. they've also said they aren't going to regulate rates
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:21 |
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if shaggar, fishmech, stymie, verizon, and att are against something then you know it must be the best loving thing since sliced bread so I am v pleased with today's news
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Shaggar posted:you will pay through increased ISP subscription costs. however, its still highly likely that this just causes ISPs to abandon new infrastructure improvements at their edges. either way its a terrible day for the internet. yes those ISP's were certainly diligent about infrastructure upgrades before for real though if the pipes get too clogged with porn wouldn't this just make the big providers lease more space in carrier datacenters for CDN's and junk also does any of this have any chance of changing anything in the next 5 years
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:22 |
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cremnob posted:how do u even know what the rules are they havent released them. they've also said they aren't going to regulate rates they released a summary, idiot
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uncurable mlady posted:if shaggar, fishmech, stymie, verizon, and att are against something then you know it must be the best loving thing since sliced bread so I am v pleased with today's news i'm not against it, moron.
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:24 |
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the only difference this is going to make in the short term is when isps and mobile carriers do their annual 'jack up rates because gently caress you' they'll be able to cry about Obama rather than making up some other excuse in the medium term you can at least sue them for doing that
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:25 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:i'm not against it, moron. quantum goalposts, observing their placement causes them to change state
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:26 |
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finally, we can clear the great packet backlog of 2014
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:31 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:they released a summary, idiot post the summary
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uncurable mlady posted:quantum goalposts, observing their placement causes them to change state i have never opposed net neutrality
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:32 |
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wyoak posted:yes those ISP's were certainly diligent about infrastructure upgrades before quote:for real though if the pipes get too clogged with porn wouldn't this just make the big providers lease more space in carrier datacenters for CDN's and junk quote:also does any of this have any chance of changing anything in the next 5 years
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:32 |
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uncurable mlady posted:the only difference this is going to make in the short term is when isps and mobile carriers do their annual 'jack up rates because gently caress you' they'll be able to cry about Obama rather than making up some other excuse they are specifically not going to regulate rates ISPs can charge so no u cant
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:33 |
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cremnob posted:post the summary why don't you just google it crebnob
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:35 |
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cox increased my rate again this month. i pray for double net neutrality
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:38 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:why don't you just google it crebnob because i think ur lying
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:38 |
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my comcast bill goes up .70-1.50 every couple months and I've never been able to figure out why
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:39 |
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cremnob posted:because i think ur lying [FCC Commissioner] Pai claimed that an Internet provider could "find itself in the FCC's crosshairs" if it doesn't want to offer unlimited data plans. The FCC's order does not actually ban data caps; instead, the FCC is claiming authority to intervene when companies use data caps to harm competitors or customers. for real crabnob you are dumb as gently caress czech it out here and here and here
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:46 |
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also make sure you get in touch with your local councilman so you can discus kickbacks and how best to shovel unlimited municipal bonds into your new networking company.
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:47 |
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Shaggar posted:also make sure you get in touch with your local councilman so you can discus kickbacks and how best to shovel unlimited municipal bonds into your new networking company. public networks aren't companies and are instead called "public services" which tend to have a bit more transparency and accountability than some corporate stockholders' board
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:48 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:public networks aren't companies and are instead called "public services" which tend to have a bit more transparency and accountability than some corporate stockholders' board nah a lot of municipalities really do have a bad habit of making them private companies once the network's built. especially when the initial structure is a co-op.
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:51 |
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the following are both true according to verizon and comcast:
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:52 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:[FCC Commissioner] Pai claimed that an Internet provider could "find itself in the FCC's crosshairs" if it doesn't want to offer unlimited data plans. The FCC's order does not actually ban data caps; instead, the FCC is claiming authority to intervene when companies use data caps to harm competitors or customers. there's nothing in the summary about caps
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:54 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:nah a lot of municipalities really do have a bad habit of making them private companies once the network's built. especially when the initial structure is a co-op. still a better outcome than the current situation of isp agreements carving the country into local monopolies
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 22:59 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:public networks aren't companies and are instead called "public services" which tend to have a bit more transparency and accountability than some corporate stockholders' board lmao
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# ? Feb 26, 2015 23:00 |
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i guess NUT NEUTRALITY DOES have poo poo on Verizion/ATT
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qirex posted:the following are both true according to verizon and comcast: they undercut on price by borrowing unlimited funds since debt isn't a problem for government organizations.
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