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Angry Grimace posted:Its fringe playable by itself, but it wouldn't go in a deck that doesn't already have Stormbreath Dragon in it. So you got a 4/1 flier that leaves behind a 2/2 token when it dies. That's pretty good value for a red 4 drop. E: Symphonie posted:
Sick sideboard removal, I don't think it hits enough to slam it into the main though. TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Symphonie posted:
As good, but probably not better than existing sideboard options.
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Symphonie posted:
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Symphonie posted:
I guess Mantis Rider, Rakshasa Deathdealer, and Fleecemane Lion. Entropic fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Entropic posted:What are you killing with this that Valorous Stance doesn't hit? Jeskai Ascendancy and Sidisi, Fleecemane/Deathdealer Symphonie fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Entropic posted:What are you killing with this that Valorous Stance doesn't hit? judge's familiar
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uggy posted:judge's familiar That's a lie, let me just tap out
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Mar 3, 2015 06:27
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Gods too, but no one's playing any of the multicolor ones except the odd Pharika here and there.
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Highspire Mantis, also
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Entropic posted:Gods too, but no one's playing any of the multicolor ones except the odd Pharika here and there. Keranos is in a couple Jeskai Control lists, isn't he? I know I run him in my Temur Midrange list in the sideboard for when I want to play Control
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Yeah, probably a meta call as to whether you sideboard that, based on how much Abzan/Jeskai Aggro you see.
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Entropic posted:What are you killing with this that Valorous Stance doesn't hit? It's also more reliable than Stance because of (opposing) Stances.
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Is anyone else... unexcited about the flavour of this set? Not necessarily about Neckbeard the Dragonspeaker searching for his waifu that he met the one time, but about the set as a whole. Since the conclusion of the story-arc concerning Ugin already happened, what story is there left to tell? We're just going to see dumb dragons and the idiots serving the dumb dragons; there's no conflict left to keep me interested especially considering we can assume that the status quo has been upheld for 1200 years. I realize that I shouldn't be expecting compelling drama from my children's cardgame, but I'm feeling a lack of it considering any narrative the block had has already been told.
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TheKingofSprings posted:So you got a 4/1 flier that leaves behind a 2/2 token when it dies. The question is whether that's better than a 4/4 that bolts someone when it dies. By itself I'd say no, but combined? As for the new card, I feel like for a rare it should be"exile target multicolored permanent."
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I kind of like how all the removal in Standard these days is pretty efficient, but pretty specific, so you really have to make a meta call on what combination of Hero's Downfalls, Bile Blights, Lightning Strikes, Valorous Stances, Banishing Lights, Suspension Fields, Murderous Cuts, etc. you run with.
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STiL. posted:Is anyone else... unexcited about the flavour of this set? Not necessarily about Neckbeard the Dragonspeaker searching for his waifu that he met the one time, but about the set as a whole. Since the conclusion of the story-arc concerning Ugin already happened, what story is there left to tell? We're just going to see dumb dragons and the idiots serving the dumb dragons; there's no conflict left to keep me interested especially considering we can assume that the status quo has been upheld for 1200 years. The conflict is supposed to be that Sarkhan's created new problems that he now has to fix with Ugin's help. On the other hand we also only have this set to wrap that all up.
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Entropic posted:I kind of like how all the removal in Standard these days is pretty efficient, but pretty specific, so you really have to make a meta call on what combination of Hero's Downfalls, Bile Blights, Lightning Strikes, Valorous Stances, Banishing Lights, Murderous Cuts, etc. you run with. Hero's Downfall is the most generic removal spell I can think of that isn't Vindicate.
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STiL. posted:Is anyone else... unexcited about the flavour of this set? Not necessarily about Neckbeard the Dragonspeaker searching for his waifu that he met the one time, but about the set as a whole. Since the conclusion of the story-arc concerning Ugin already happened, what story is there left to tell? We're just going to see dumb dragons and the idiots serving the dumb dragons; there's no conflict left to keep me interested especially considering we can assume that the status quo has been upheld for 1200 years. Personally I'm hoping for/expecting some sort of revolution.
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STiL. posted:Is anyone else... unexcited about the flavour of this set? Not necessarily about Neckbeard the Dragonspeaker searching for his waifu that he met the one time, but about the set as a whole. Since the conclusion of the story-arc concerning Ugin already happened, what story is there left to tell? We're just going to see dumb dragons and the idiots serving the dumb dragons; there's no conflict left to keep me interested especially considering we can assume that the status quo has been upheld for 1200 years. Don't worry there will be more flavor articles to advance Sarkhan's big dragon adventure.
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I'm gonna laugh when Planeswalker Narset turns out to be Grixis and super evil as gently caress.
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I'm disappointed as poo poo that the second planeswalker's looking like a new Sarkhan.
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Angry Grimace posted:Hero's Downfall is the most generic removal spell I can think of that isn't Vindicate. It's not as efficient as some of the others though. There's a reason some decks run Murderous Cut instead. They're trading the ability to straight up murder a planeswalker for the ability to kill a creature for 1 or 2 mana less. Not to mention the BB in the cost if you're a Mardu deck or something. It's not a no-brainer to shove four Hero's Downfall in any black deck. Entropic fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm gonna laugh when Planeswalker Narset turns out to be Grixis and super evil as gently caress.
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TheKingofSprings posted:I'm disappointed as poo poo that the second planeswalker's looking like a new Sarkhan. I was hoping for a new Bolas, but they would have been hyping his part in the story way more by this point if that was the case.
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It is a second Ugin.
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its ugin fighting bolas as a planeswalker card
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Symphonie posted:
I'm intrigued that they were this concerned with avoiding the relatively rare cases of this being able to move multicolored artifacts or multicolored planeswalkers.
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Symphonie posted:
Really like the art even if this is just basically sideboard padding.
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They're setting up a three way fight between Ugin and fifty billion dragons vs. Bolas and his Eldrazi pals vs. Elesh Norn and the entire plane of Mirrodin; they all happen to be invading Dominaria at the exact same time. Also there's time-travel involved and they show up during the Brother's War.
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Did Renounce the Guilds even see play the first time around? Because I can't see Renounce the Guilds 2: Dragon Boogaloo being much better.
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STiL. posted:They're setting up a three way fight between Ugin and fifty billion dragons vs. Bolas and his Eldrazi pals vs. Elesh Norn and the entire plane of Mirrodin; they all happen to be invading Dominaria at the exact same time. Also there's time-travel involved and they show up during the Brother's War. There also may or may not be a ridiculous Mary-Sue sliver princess that has an inexplicably rocking set of titties.
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JerryLee posted:I'm intrigued that they were this concerned with avoiding the relatively rare cases of this being able to move multicolored artifacts or multicolored planeswalkers. It does suggest that a multicoloured planeswalker is going to turn up.
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Mikujin posted:Did Renounce the Guilds even see play the first time around? Because I can't see Renounce the Guilds 2: Dragon Boogaloo being much better. Not really. But that one was symmetric.
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Symphonie posted:
..... my chromanticore deck .....
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JerryLee posted:I'm intrigued that they were this concerned with avoiding the relatively rare cases of this being able to move multicolored artifacts or multicolored planeswalkers. I was told by others that its because White is not allowed to remove Planeswalkers. Despite the fact that Banishing Light totally lets you do that.
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Elyv posted:Personally I'm hoping for/expecting some sort of revolution. I just want Jeskai and Abzan back, they were so cool.
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Meatbag Esq. posted:..... my chromanticore deck ..... If it's any consolation you can't kill what never lived
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Symphonie posted:
This card's about as good as the multicolored counterspell. Will never be played in Standard or even Limited maindecks.
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Mikujin posted:Did Renounce the Guilds even see play the first time around? Because I can't see Renounce the Guilds 2: Dragon Boogaloo being much better. Renounce the Guilds was a super fringe sideboard card in U/W control when Obzedat was at peak popularity because U/W Control had literally zero answers to that guy.
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