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Teach Titus to wrestle properly, then push him to the moon.
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DeathChicken posted:I'm not sure how one would take the idea of an angle that goes "Everyone suddenly wants this title" to "This title is now being devalued even more than it was", but here we are. Because it's been a literal comedy prop for weeks? A bunch of dudes playing Looney Tunes with a title doesn't make it seem more important to me.
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The Intercontinental Championship was unified with the Hardcore Championship in 2002, they are simply honoring the old title's legacy.
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I want to know what Fooch's thinks!
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I turned to RAW after Better Call Saul just in time to see Reigns spear Rollins off the turnbuckle. He's legit dead now right?
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armoredgorilla posted:Teach Titus to wrestle properly, then push him to the moon. I like Titus, but he's 37 and has just enough skill to be a lower-tier tag team wrestler.
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PUNKS DIET SODA posted:I want to know what Fooch's thinks! SamuraiFoochs posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQgQIMlwWw armoredgorilla posted:Teach Titus to wrestle properly, then push him to the moon. They've been trying that for a while. The worst part is, Titus seems like a great guy but he really needs someone to just grab him, pull him aside, and endlessly throw him around the ring until he gets it. E: He may be being thrown around a ring forever, is the problem.
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bradzilla posted:Because it's been a literal comedy prop for weeks? A bunch of dudes playing Looney Tunes with a title doesn't make it seem more important to me. Yeah. By that logic the DDT Ironman title is the most prestigious belt in all of wrestling!
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:They've been trying that for a while. The worst part is, Titus seems like a great guy but he really needs someone to just grab him, pull him aside, and endlessly throw him around the ring until he gets it. He has a fantastic look, has a catchy dog bark thing, and if he was a decent worker, would be a huge star.
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PUNKS DIET SODA posted:I want to know what Fooch's thinks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_XaIuw6K6Q love you fooches
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armoredgorilla posted:The Intercontinental Championship was unified with the Hardcore Championship in 2002, they are simply honoring the old title's legacy.
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah. By that logic the DDT Ironman title is the most prestigious belt in all of wrestling! Here are a few things that would make the I-C belt more important: - Have a title match as the Raw main event, with a clean finish - Have a feud over the belt - a real, actual feud - two guys who fight and promo about each other and winning the title - Have the I-C title holder win convincingly and consistently, and never eat pinfalls, even in a non-title match Rusev kind of does these things with the US belt, and the only thing keeping him from being "Rusev, US Champion" is that he's "Rusev, Evil Foreign Heel" and "Rusev, Guy Feuding with Cena" right now.
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DeathChicken posted:I'm not sure how one would take the idea of an angle that goes "Everyone suddenly wants this title" to "This title is now being devalued even more than it was", but here we are. The actual champion is on a 10(?) match losing streak, that certainly doesn't help the value of the belt.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:They've been trying that for a while. The worst part is, Titus seems like a great guy but he really needs someone to just grab him, pull him aside, and endlessly throw him around the ring until he gets it. wwe has a performance center that is apparently very good at this
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81sidewinder posted:The actual champion is on a 10(?) match losing streak, that certainly doesn't help the value of the belt. This is kind of what I was saying. You're sure not making the belt *worse* than what it was by doing this.
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oatgan posted:wwe has a performance center that is apparently very good at this I don't think any of their 6 rings would be enough to make him 'not 37' though. He's not going to turn into a ring general at this age.
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flashy_mcflash posted:I don't think any of their 6 rings would be enough to make him 'not 37' though. He's not going to turn into a ring general at this age. Wasn't DDP in his late-30s before he became a regular worker, and he was really good? It's not impossible. I mean, it's not gonna happen, but there is precedent.
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PUNKS DIET SODA posted:I want to know what Fooch's thinks! "As a person who likes Roman Reigns more than most, I think that that Raw was bad, but when I stopped to think about it, I think that it was good."
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Gaz-L posted:Wasn't DDP in his late-30s before he became a regular worker, and he was really good? It's not impossible. I mean, it's not gonna happen, but there is precedent. I wouldn't call DDP "really good" but he sure as hell was over, and pushed strong.
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flashy_mcflash posted:I don't think any of their 6 rings would be enough to make him 'not 37' though. He's not going to turn into a ring general at this age.
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Can someone explain the logic of having both the IC and US title at this point? Why not just merge them and have one legit middle-tier champ?
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iamsosmrt posted:Can someone explain the logic of having both the IC and US title at this point? Why not just merge them and have one legit middle-tier champ? How would you know someone's a mid-card geek that will never be a legit contender, then?
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DudeDeuce posted:http://www.wwe.com/videos/the-prime-time-players-want-the-trophy-wwe-app-exclusive-march-2-2015-27159920 This is really good and kind of what I think they needed to do with New Day: less vague pep rally stuff, more chatty comedy, which all those guys are great at anyway. Hell, just forget New Day exists and turn PTP into a full stable with no explanation.
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Delsaber posted:This is really good and kind of what I think they needed to do with New Day: less vague pep rally stuff, more chatty comedy, which all those guys are great at anyway. Now, crazy cult leader Adam Rose, that I'd like on TV.
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they're seriously putting both bryan and ambrose in the IC title match aren't they ![]()
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That DICK! posted:they're seriously putting both bryan and ambrose in the IC title match aren't they For bonus salt in the wound it's probably curtain jerking too. ![]()
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Also they're both probably gonna lose lol
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That DICK! posted:they're seriously putting both bryan and ambrose in the IC title match aren't they
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DeathChicken posted:I'm not sure how one would take the idea of an angle that goes "Everyone suddenly wants this title" to "This title is now being devalued even more than it was", but here we are. all the losers wanted the hardcore title too
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Heavy Metal posted:Ziggy too. The top three guys who got cheered at the Rumble. They all deserve a win, but hey, that match should be epic. And that said, give Truth a chance. I like Ziggler but i'm 100% fine with having him lose for an eternity
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I've been watching a year and just realized I honestly don't know which belt is supposed to be valued higher. Is it the US or IC belt?
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both are garbage but cena wants the us belt so that ones better I guess
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Delsaber posted:This is really good and kind of what I think they needed to do with New Day: less vague pep rally stuff, more chatty comedy, which all those guys are great at anyway. I rather they stop consolidating all their black talent
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Heavy Metal posted:Ziggy too. The top three guys who got cheered at the Rumble. They all deserve a win, but hey, that match should be epic. And that said, give Truth a chance. He's been amusing lately, but I don't think I've ever seen a good Ron Killings match.
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In "canon", it's roughly WWE World Heavyweight Championship > Intercontinental Championship > WWE Tag Team Championships = United States Championship. In reality, currently it's WWE Champ > US Champ > Tag Tag Champs > jobber > IC Champ The Diva's Championship has been handled pretty well in terms of prestige lately, even if the feuds aren't the greatest, it's probably on the level of US as well.
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Luke Harper had 8 matches while holding the IC title and lost all of them
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Why is it so hard to book a dominant ic champion who eventually challenges the world champion
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:Why is it so hard to book a dominant ic champion who eventually challenges the world champion Two people can't Look Strong simultaneously.
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Sockser posted:Luke Harper had 8 matches while holding the IC title and lost all of them He was a paper champion. It was storyline - Ziggler was the REAL chapion, screwed by the Authority. Agree in other cases though.
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# ? Jun 17, 2024 22:28 |
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This raw didn't have an ascension match so it was a good raw, imo I am glad they seem to be putting the AJ paige feud away for good and look forward to them killing the Bellas a whole lot at mania Also at this point barrett was buried so much anyway that I'm glad he's losing and is clearly being positioned as lovely loser who doesn't deserve the title and can't even keep possession of the belt. The belt itself is at a way higher level than he is now, which is a weird way to book a title reign but if either Ambrose or Bryan win a good match and IF they commit to making the title and champion important after mania it might actually work. Same thing with a Cena U.S. title run. More likely is they continue business as usual by jobbing the IC champ to upper carders and Cena loses the U.S. title by a distraction-aided rollup and never bothers to try and win it back while going on to feud with the guy who distracted him. Blasmeister fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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