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serious gaylord posted:Does the M prevent people from going to floor 13 or is it just a different label? Does Jazz Hands prevent people from showing their approval or is it just a different way of doing it?
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Mar 25, 2015 12:21
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wish you'd all do jazz hands instead of typing all these words
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Mar 25, 2015 12:21
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Fans posted:Does Jazz Hands prevent people from showing their approval or is it just a different way of doing it? They can do that if they like, I believe the issue has arisen because they want to prevent people clapping, which is ridiculous.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:22
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This is me next time i'm at an NUS woman's conference and I'm told I can only do jazz hands
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Mar 25, 2015 12:22
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Whats next? 'We feel that people wearing coloured t-shirts may cause anxiety in some of our members, so could everyone please only wear neutral grey.'
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Mar 25, 2015 12:22
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serious gaylord posted:Does the M prevent people from going to floor 13 or is it just a different label? They're not saying do jazz hands if you want to, they're saying 'NO CLAPPING AS ITS GOING TO HURT SOMEONES FEELINGS SO EVERYONE DO JAZZ HANDS OR ELSE'. Walk away from the keyboard before you hurt yourself, kid.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:23
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Gonzo McFee posted:Walk away from the keyboard before you hurt yourself, kid. Calling me a kid is a trigger for me, could you please not do it.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:23
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serious gaylord posted:They can do that if they like, I believe the issue has arisen because they want to prevent people clapping, which is ridiculous. No, they requested people don't clap. No one was actually stopped from doing it if they really wanted to.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:23
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serious gaylord posted:Whats next? 'We feel that people wearing coloured t-shirts may cause anxiety in some of our members, so could everyone please only wear neutral grey.' T-shirts....bare....arms....oh ... god....
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Mar 25, 2015 12:23
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Kegluneq posted:So you'll get butthurt over waving but accept a number sequence that goes 12-M-14 without question? It's almost as if the instinctual reaction is affirming that no, I'm not silly like this new thing which looks silly, and then everything after that is piss-weak sophistry trying to make this out to be a question of intelligence, maturity or strategy instead. The world's full of goofy poo poo for good and bad reasons and people's reaction to them is pretty much never rational in any consistent way.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:24
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Pissflaps posted:This is me next time i'm at an NUS woman's conference and I'm told I can only do jazz hands how was it the first time?
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Mar 25, 2015 12:24
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serious gaylord posted:They can do that if they like, I believe the issue has arisen because they want to prevent people clapping, which is ridiculous. They've asked people not to, out of consideration for their speakers. And it seems to have worked out okay. Pissflaps posted:I also think it's daft to miss out the 13th floor on a building - i'm not superstitious.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:24
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Clarky Cat!!!! 30-second physical assault after a 20-minute verbal assault eh
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Mar 25, 2015 12:25
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I'm glad we honored Clarkson's dismissal by having an argument about how Political Correctness has gone mad.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:26
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Cerv posted:how was it the first time? They had a good buffet.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:27
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Kegluneq posted:They've asked people not to, out of consideration for their speakers. And it seems to have worked out okay. So they've tried to prevent people clapping. At a conference.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:27
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serious gaylord posted:So they've tried to prevent people clapping. At a conference. No, as I said they asked them to change how they applauded. AFAIK no-one has been taken out behind the chemical sheds for golfclapping. Edit: I assume the NUS delegates are relatively sympathetic to this sort of request, so it's not an unreasonable demand.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:30
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Kegluneq posted:No, as I said they asked them to change how they applauded. AFAIK no-one has been taken out behind the chemical sheds for golfclapping. That's stage two.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:31
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Kegluneq posted:No, as I said they asked them to change how they applauded. AFAIK no-one has been taken out behind the chemical sheds for golfclapping. By asking them not to clap. Come on man its not rocket science. 'Please don't do this'.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:33
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serious gaylord posted:By asking them not to clap. Come on man its not rocket science. 'Please don't do this'. 'Or else...'?
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Mar 25, 2015 12:34
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baka kaba posted:Clarky Cat!!!! Hmm yeah that must have been horrible to go through, good on the BBC for being able to ignore commercial concerns and ensuring safe work environments for their staff even when the cost and public backlash would be high. I give them poo poo over a lot of their coverage but it seems like they've still got a good internal attitude to this sort of thing.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:34
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serious gaylord posted:By asking them not to clap. Come on man its not rocket science. 'Please don't do this'. Sorry if you're trigged by people making polite requests
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Mar 25, 2015 12:39
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Kegluneq posted:'Or else...'? Well nothing. Which highlights the absurdity of the request.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:42
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namesake posted:Hmm yeah that must have been horrible to go through, good on the BBC for being able to ignore commercial concerns and ensuring safe work environments for their staff even when the cost and public backlash would be high. I give them poo poo over a lot of their coverage but it seems like they've still got a good internal attitude to this sort of thing. They really don't. I'll be shocked if that guy Clarkson punched works again, or if the guy who reported it on his behalf doesn't also find themselves unemployed.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:42
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Is this like Van Halen's rider where all the brown M&Ms have to be taken out to make sure people read the whole thing and complied? If I ever get a public speaking engagement I'm going to make everyone close their left eye throughout the duration as symmetric gaze is very disturbing to me.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:43
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Gonzo McFee posted:They really don't. I'll be shocked if that guy Clarkson punched works again, or if the guy who reported it on his behalf doesn't also find themselves unemployed. Clarkson reported it himself. But more to the point, if the guy Clarkson punched hit him back, he should have been sacked as well.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:43
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serious gaylord posted:Well nothing. Which highlights the absurdity of the request. Plenty of people respond to "please don't be a jerk" without a threat of repercussions. It's called not being a shitlord. Fans posted:I'm glad we honored Clarkson's dismissal by having an argument about how Political Correctness has gone mad. It does seem somewhat fitting. Got loads of people moaning about PC going mad... because someone punched a colleague at work and got fired for it 
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Mar 25, 2015 12:46
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serious gaylord posted:Well nothing. Which highlights the absurdity of the request. Politeness is absurd? I don't get this, do you think if you're going to ask people to do something out of appreciation for others you should always back it up with threats? I mean, you will look like That rear end in a top hat if you're the only person in the room loudly clapping. Does that help?
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Mar 25, 2015 12:46
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serious gaylord posted:Clarkson reported it himself. But more to the point, if the guy Clarkson punched hit him back, he should have been sacked as well. Self defence is no ground for dismissal.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:46
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tbf i'd really appreciate it if people would stop bloody applauding at political conferences all the time, it is really tiresome jazz hands seems like a good way to make "spontaneous" applause too awkward to engage in
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Mar 25, 2015 12:47
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serious gaylord posted:Clarkson reported it himself. But more to the point, if the guy Clarkson punched hit him back, he should have been sacked as well. Anyway Clarkson only reported it days later. Probably knew it was going to come out somehow.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:47
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If we ban clapping at political speaches we'll never again see the likes of when the WI slow clapped Blair. Really want to miss out on that?
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Mar 25, 2015 12:48
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mfcrocker posted:Plenty of people respond to "please don't be a jerk" without a threat of repercussions. It's called not being a shitlord. Are people who clap really 'shithead jerks'?
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Mar 25, 2015 12:49
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Gonzo McFee posted:They really don't. I'll be shocked if that guy Clarkson punched works again, or if the guy who reported it on his behalf doesn't also find themselves unemployed. Also you'll note that they haven't actually had the balls to fire him. They're just choosing not to renew his contract on 1 April. They should have sacked the fucker for gross misconduct - that might have had an impact on his entitlement to ongoing financial benefit from the job - e.g. pension contributions for the year. Edit: vv He probably has about 50.  It would have been a nice statement that it was unacceptable behaviour, if nothing else.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:50
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Probably has his own private pension though.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:52
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Cerv posted:You have an odd attitude to self defence. He reported it that evening according to the papers. And since no-one actually knows what happened who's to say Clarkson didn't hit him after getting a shove? Fighting in the workplace gets all participants sacked for gross misconduct. All the reports i've read say they had a bit of a dust up with both of them scrapping. Prince John posted:Also you'll note that they haven't actually had the balls to fire him. They're just choosing not to renew his contract on 1 April. They should have sacked the fucker for gross misconduct - that might have had an impact on his entitlement to ongoing financial benefit from the job - e.g. pension contributions for the year. Yes, he should have been sacked for gross misconduct if he was fighting. Not renewing his contract is a yellow belly move.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:53
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Pissflaps posted:Are people who clap really 'shithead jerks'? If you've previously been asked politely to show some consideration then yeah? This didn't happen though because people showed some decency and understanding
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Mar 25, 2015 12:58
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namesake posted:Hmm yeah that must have been horrible to go through, good on the BBC for being able to ignore commercial concerns and ensuring safe work environments for their staff even when the cost and public backlash would be high. I give them poo poo over a lot of their coverage but it seems like they've still got a good internal attitude to this sort of thing. Yeah, although I think this being so high profile probably made it something they couldn't easily sweep away. There've been a lot of stories about people being quietly sidelined, and even Cameron's daughter has that producer marked. (I liked that quote he came out with, "Nancy has threatened to go on hunger strike unless Jeremy Clarkson is restored". I like it because even his daughter knows he'll abuse his power and interfere with the BBC to get what he wants)
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Mar 25, 2015 13:02
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for real, though, there's a tendency towards people wanting acceptance and accommodation for weakness rather than trying to overcome it in general, and i don't know how i feel about that like, i'm all about fixing structural issues so people have a fair shake, but getting upset about completely innocuous, everyday phenomena is seriously your own problem. i'm terrified of heights, but this doesn't mean i get to demand that any conference i take part in be on the ground floor or w/e
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I'd applaud their decency and compassion but, well, you know...
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