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Dubious
Mar 7, 2006

The Heroes the Vikings Deserve
Lipstick Apathy
that report is a huge pile of lawyer speak that doesnt prove anything because there's no evidence

brady will get some fine that doesn't matter anyway because he has enough money for like 20 lifetimes

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Rasczak
Mar 30, 2005

Parmesan Basil posted:

1. Broncos
2. Ravens
3. Steelers
4. Raiders
5. Washington (will be removed once the names is changed)
6. Titans (this used to be NE's spot but DGB+Perrish Cox launched them up.)
7. Pats
8. Cowboys (for those interested. An AP trade will put them at 5 easy)

That's fair

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

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I was trying to go to sleep a few minutes ago and for some reason the enormity of these events finally hit me and I couldn't stop crying. I have no real life friends who give a poo poo about football, so this is basically the only place I have to express these feelings, but I really feel the need to express them.

I would like this thread to be about our personal feelings about the cheating of Tom Brady, and how it has personally affected us. Just TV-IVing about the details as they come in, or wondering about the NFL's future, and all of that bullshit has no place here. I need to write about my feelings about Tom Brady. Obviously these posts will be mocked elsewhere on the forums, but gently caress em. If you feel the need to say anything, say it.

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Tom Brady is a cheater. He deflated some footballs. We will probably never know exactly what he was thinking. Obviously I did not know Tom Brady. I never saw him in person and never spoke to him. But he represented something very special to me. In such a cut-throat, dirty, dark, often disgusting, business he was one of the good ones. When people talked poo poo about football and the bastards involved in it, you could always point out Tom Brady as the exception to the rule. He was the one you could point to as a true professional who honored the sport he loved, who was passionate about it, who proved that you could dedicate your life tofootball without being insane or scum or a monster. He was the ace in the hole. He was the one who wasn't in it for the pussy or because he was a failed jock in another sport or because he wanted to get rich quick or because he wanted to be a movie star or because he saw football as a means to an end. He was in it for football. He was dedicated to being the best quarterback he could be, and it showed on the field.

I wanted to be a quarterback since I was a little kid, and one of the very worst moments of my life was a cold night in San Antonio when I was on the phone to my girlfriend a thousand miles away and finally admitted to myself and to her that coming to Texas to be a quarterback had been a mistake. Coming to grips that I was simply not athletically or charismatically talented enough to be a quarterback was one of the worst moments of my life. The business glorifies the boyhood dreams that come true. My boyhood dream wasn't going to come true, and it was an upsetting, soul-crushing revelation that upsets and discourages me to this day.

Since then I lived vicariously through Tom Brady in a lot of ways. He wasn't a man who was destined to be a NFL champion. He couldn't talk. He wasn't charismatic in the usual way. He was quiet. He was short. The only thing he had going for him was his work ethic. He wasn't a third generation quaterback. He wasn't physically gifted. He wasn't someone who had words come easy to him. But through sheer effort he was able to become one of the greatest quarterbacks in history. By 40 years-old.

Tom Brady was only thirty seven, and he was already a legend on the verge of myth. That's how talented he was, and how respected.

I cannot reconcile in my mind that the man who unnecessarily gave back so much to the sport could end his career the way he did. I can't understand how a man could spend weeks and months trying to give back to younger guys like Gronk, putting forth the care and effort to help them find their voice in the field, and that that same man could deflate his footballs only weeks later. It doesn't make sense. It shouldn't have happened this way. Not for him, not for Bill, and not for their Kraft.

Tom Brady owed me nothing. But I still feel the loss. I selfishly lived through many of his accomplishments and now feel lost. I can only speak for myself, but I feel that for a lot of us Mondays and Sundays are rocks of stability in a storm of stress and uncertainty. Every week the show goes on. Every week the show is from somewhere new, somewhere in the world, but every week it comes into our homes.


And that will continue. But Tom Brady is a cheater. And whether it be insanity, drugs, or just the actions of a clear-eyed monster, what is done is done. And one of the pillars for the guys in the lockerroom and one of the pillars for fans is gone. And everything that pillar held up is tainted and dripping with blood.

Tom Brady is a cheater. And I don't know how to accept that.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



You missed one.

E: you got it!

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

Tom Brady cheats at football.

primaltrash
Feb 11, 2008

(Thought-ful Croak)
SA is slipping, it took 5 whole pages for someone to modify the Benoit walloftext.

Knyteguy
Jul 6, 2005

YES to love
NO to shirts


Toilet Rascal

That Works posted:

This is pretty laughably dumb. Buncha words ending up with "ehhh maybe"

ehhh probably

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

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armoredgorilla posted:

SA is slipping, it took 5 whole pages for someone to modify the Benoit walloftext.

legit shameful

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

Knyteguy posted:

ehhh probably

but still, only maybe

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!
I think that, clearly, an indefinite suspension is not punishment enough for Mr. Brady.

He should be given to the Cleveland Browns on an extended loan until further notice.

Notable Dom X
Apr 3, 2011

by exmarx
Buglord
so are those equipment guys going to lose their jobs while thomas brady gets at worst, a slap on the wrist? brady hates the common man confirmed, death to the patriots also he is a cheater

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide
The great thing about Tom Brady is that he could play whoever wrote that screed in a friendly game in the backyard while they grilled some burgers or whatever and he would still deflate the balls, not because he needs to, but because he is a psychotic

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

That Works posted:

This is pretty laughably dumb. Buncha words ending up with "ehhh maybe"

That's boilerplate for "guilty" in a civil matter.

primaltrash
Feb 11, 2008

(Thought-ful Croak)

Mel Mudkiper posted:

legit shameful

It's just a couple find and replaces, what took so long?

StarcraftM
Jan 15, 2008

Full Fuckin' Circle.
So we have a bunch of innuendo, no hard evidence, some texts but no smoking gun

Give us the 10,000 dollar fine or whatever it is in the rules, and kiss the rings, i don't give a single gently caress, because we did this

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
Knew it all along. Hope they make a big time example of him.

Rasczak
Mar 30, 2005

If Dallas did this they'd have to forefit two trophies and accept a 200 million dollar fine, and Romo would've been exiled to Liberia.

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

Notable Dom X posted:

so are those equipment guys going to lose their jobs while thomas brady gets at worst, a slap on the wrist? brady hates the common man confirmed, death to the patriots also he is a cheater

good

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

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armoredgorilla posted:

It's just a couple find and replaces, what took so long?

I was on my phone :shobon:

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

tom brady, future pete rose of football

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Notable Dom X posted:

so are those equipment guys going to lose their jobs while thomas brady gets at worst, a slap on the wrist? brady hates the common man confirmed, death to the patriots also he is a cheater

I expect that because Kraft came out and said "bullshit, no hard evidence, but we can't appeal" these guys will keep their jobs but get moved to some other part of the organization where there's no contact with gameday stuff. It wouldn't make sense to fire them while you're still denying guilt.

Dubious
Mar 7, 2006

The Heroes the Vikings Deserve
Lipstick Apathy

this really is important, that we remember this moment in time.

primaltrash
Feb 11, 2008

(Thought-ful Croak)

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I was on my phone :shobon:

Full credit restored, I'll back off.

Parmesan Basil
Nov 12, 2008

TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

African AIDS cum posted:

Knew it all along. Hope they make a big time example of him.

Nice of you to join us

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I was on my phone :shobon:

That's a good effort for a phonepost, you've got a high motor, tremendous upside, I'm moving you to fifth on the Deflategate big board

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

African AIDS cum posted:

Knew it all along. Hope they make a big time example of him.

We've missed you

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Nail Rat posted:

He should be given to the Cleveland Browns on an extended loan until further notice.

Browns go 19-0, Cleveland fans don't celebrate because they're confused

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

Raku posted:

Nah, Brady just maintains his innocence as he benefits from the ball getting holes punched in it

Wait, what sort of needle do you think they're talking about?

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007



Gonna need a Space Jam remix of this

StarcraftM
Jan 15, 2008

Full Fuckin' Circle.
I just read the Kraft reply to this, and I gotta say, go get em old man, that was the nicest written middle-finger up high 'gently caress you roger, gently caress you nfl, gently caress you ted wells' ever

btw

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib
This is so breathtakingly dumb. Did this have any actual impact on the match? I mean clearly there's broken rules here but it's probably the most infinitesimal rulebreaking I can possibly imagine. Stepping onto the field is more egregious than this.

I read the report. Some loser texted constantly about how much he hated his superiors and bragged how he'd like to gently caress with the balls, then turned right around and scuttled to accede to Brady's preferences. The balls were deflated as close as possible to the bottom boundary of "acceptable" and during play deflated even more beneath that. That's what 243 pages boils down to? We're getting media controversy over this and not Spygate or employing a murderer?

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

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StarcraftM posted:

I just read the Kraft reply to this, and I gotta say, go get em old man, that was the nicest written middle-finger up high 'gently caress you roger, gently caress you nfl, gently caress you ted wells' ever

Yeah Bob Kraft sure does stick it Roger Goodell all the time like the rebel owner he is I tell you what

Weebly
May 6, 2007

General Chaos wants you!
College Slice

armoredgorilla posted:

SA is slipping, it took 5 whole pages for someone to modify the Benoit walloftext.

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM SOME MEMORABILIA INTO THE EQUIPMENT MANAGERS LOCKER. IT'S AN NFL GAME AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE THEY START DEFLATING THE BALLS. THEY LET ALL THE AIR OUT AND THEY LET ALL THE AIR OUT HARD. I MAKE WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I THROW TOUCHDOWNS OR EVEN WHEN I THROW AN INCOMPLETE PASS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY WON 4 SUPERBOWLS. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN SPORTS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JEKRS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY MANSION WITH MOAT LESS LONELY WITH MY MODEL GIRLFRIEND

StarcraftM
Jan 15, 2008

Full Fuckin' Circle.

Brannock posted:

This is so breathtakingly dumb. Did this have any actual impact on the match? I mean clearly there's broken rules here but it's probably the most infinitesimal rulebreaking I can possibly imagine. Stepping onto the field is more egregious than this.

I read the report. Some loser texted constantly about how much he hated his superiors and bragged how he'd like to gently caress with the balls, then turned right around and scuttled to accede to Brady's preferences. The balls were deflated as close as possible to the bottom boundary of "acceptable" and during play deflated even more beneath that. That's what 243 pages boils down to? We're getting media controversy over this and not Spygate or employing a murderer?

you're cool, i like you

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.
So it's more probably that they did ~something, than not.

Cool stuff. I wonder how much money Ted Wells got for that report.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Ehud posted:

what else did i post about them

everything

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

StarcraftM posted:

I just read the Kraft reply to this, and I gotta say, go get em old man, that was the nicest written middle-finger up high 'gently caress you roger, gently caress you nfl, gently caress you ted wells' ever

btw



Parmesan Basil
Nov 12, 2008

TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

Rasczak posted:

That's fair

Also very interesting to note how many evil teams are from the AFC. Very odd...

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Yeah Bob Kraft sure does stick it Roger Goodell all the time like the rebel owner he is I tell you what

Someone had to take up Al Davis' mantle.

I miss Al Davis

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pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

Parmesan Basil posted:

Also very interesting to note how many evil teams are from the AFC. Very odd...

Except for King Evil: The Carolina Panthers. They're so evil, no one really knows about it.

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