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Did Constantine get really good after the pilot? Why are people trying so hard to give it a second chance? Also Hell's Kitchen looks way bigger than I imagined.
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I thought the rest of the series was better than the pilot, but I also didn't think the pilot was terrible. So far the loudest criticisms I have heard have been from Hellblazer fans who seem to have awoken from comas thinking their favorite comic was going to get special treatment and be adapted more perfectly than almost any comic to date. As far as shows based on comic book properties, it wasn't bad by almost any stretch. It certainly wasn't worse than Flash or Arrow.
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May 12, 2015 03:57
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ToastyPotato posted:They should resolve the coming darkness plot first if they were coming back. They could easily kill Zed during that plot, or get rid of her some other way if everyone hated her that much. Apparently they had Doctor Fate stuff planned for the second half of the first season as well. It would be funny and cool if they literally just opened the first episode exactly the same as the old show, with John in the institution, the Coming Darkness was resolved off screen, and everyone but john died leaving him free to do whatever. It would be a fun opening and a nice meta-commentary on the old show being rebooted. Similar to how the events of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie are obliquely alluded to in episode one of the series.
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May 12, 2015 03:58
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Error 404 posted:It would be funny and cool if they literally just opened the first episode exactly the same as the old show, with John in the institution, the Coming Darkness was resolved off screen, and everyone but john died leaving him free to do whatever. It would be a fun opening and a nice meta-commentary on the old show being rebooted. Similar to how the events of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie are obliquely alluded to in episode one of the series. While I can agree that would be pretty interesting to do, the fact of the matter is that it would create a poo poo storm amongst its fans, handicapping an already limping show. It would be awesome though. Did they ever explicitly give any dates on season 1? It would be cool if it was revealed that it happened a couple of years ago, and that we'd only get some hints and flashbacks to how it all went down as the show progressed. But like I said. Shitstorm. I mean, look at how much people hated the Young Justice time skip.
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May 12, 2015 04:01
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Just imagine if the CW picks it up. Ollie versus Etrigan!
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May 12, 2015 04:03
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Scyantific posted:Just imagine if the CW picks it up. Ollie versus Etrigan! "My name is John Constantine and I am the most British man alive..."
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May 12, 2015 04:54
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Scyantific posted:Just imagine if the CW picks it up. Ollie versus Etrigan! Yarva Demonicus Queen. Change, change the form of man. Free the playboy forever damned. The guy that all the ladies desire.. Salmon Ladder in heart of fire. Gone, gone the form obscene, Rise the archer Ollie Queen!
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May 12, 2015 07:13
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TwoPair posted:"My name is John Constantine and I am the most British man alive..." I spent 45 years on a hellish island...
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May 12, 2015 14:49
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Seeing that Flash already bought super powers to the Arrowverse I would be keen on Constantine bringing the supernatural too. Like others have said you can introduce Etrigan, as well as opening a while new world of characters.
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May 12, 2015 17:27
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I can't imagine the CW taking on a show that is so similar to Supernatural though.
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May 12, 2015 18:10
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Looks like Agent Carter Season 2 takes place in Los Angeles.
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May 12, 2015 18:44
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I detect a lack of Cal in that press release. This is a travesty!
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May 12, 2015 18:53
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Kingtheninja posted:I can't imagine the CW taking on a show that is so similar to Supernatural though. Didn't they/don't they have two vampire shows running at the same time? Having two similar shows has never been an issue for CW. Well this saves money on having to recreate 40s New York Skylines. Also, isn't that fake New York film lot in LA anyway? Might as well cut out all pretenses. Filming NY period pieces for TV is just not worth the money these days.
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May 12, 2015 18:54
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Just like True Detective Season 2...
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May 12, 2015 18:57
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ToastyPotato posted:Didn't they/don't they have two vampire shows running at the same time? Having two similar shows has never been an issue for CW. Also, isn't Supernatural getting pretty long in the tooth? They're going into their eleventh season now, and surely they can't have that much left in the tank. I'm guessing that if they do pick up Constantine it'll be to set the show up as a successor series to Supernatural. That's a big if, though.
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May 12, 2015 18:58
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jng2058 posted:Also, isn't Supernatural getting pretty long in the tooth? They're going into their eleventh season now, and surely they can't have that much left in the tank. I'm guessing that if they do pick up Constantine it'll be to set the show up as a successor series to Supernatural. CW is not in a position to cancel any show that is doing well for them. As long as those guys keep signing on for more seasons and those seasons do well enough in the ratings to justify paying for them, they will get made.
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May 12, 2015 18:59
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ToastyPotato posted:Didn't they/don't they have two vampire shows running at the same time? Having two similar shows has never been an issue for CW. One is a spinoff from the other.
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May 12, 2015 19:00
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Skwirl posted:One is a spinoff from the other. That doesn't really matter. Saying you can't have two "supernatural-esque" shows on the schedule when you have two vampire shows on the schedule (regardless of where the second one came from) is kind of silly. CBS has 2 or 3 NCISes and as many CSIs. People will watch what they feel like watching. They aren't going to go "Oh I watch and love Supernatural, therefore I simply cannot watch another show remotely like it."
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May 12, 2015 19:10
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ToastyPotato posted:That doesn't really matter. Saying you can't have two "supernatural-esque" shows on the schedule when you have two vampire shows on the schedule (regardless of where the second one came from) is kind of silly. CBS has 2 or 3 NCISes and as many CSIs. People will watch what they feel like watching. They aren't going to go "Oh I watch and love Supernatural, therefore I simply cannot watch another show remotely like it." If anything those viewers would be more likely to watch it. Especially if they used Supernatural as a lead-in (I don't know what follows Supernatural right now because I don't follow that show). A lot of viewers are particular about genre of shows*, at least in my experience. *We all know a guy who only watches police procedurals, or only sci-fi shows.
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May 12, 2015 19:18
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Yeah. The only argument to be made is that they would be spreading their already small audience too thin by forcing them to choose between more CW shows and other, bigger network options. But if CW continues to do well moving in the direction it is moving in, Constantine is not likely to hurt it at all. (Granted, it would be Constantine with a lower budget overall, most likely.)
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May 12, 2015 19:25
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Constantine isn't going to be picked up by anyone. The show is dead.
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May 12, 2015 19:29
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Skwirl posted:Constantine isn't going to be picked up by anyone. The show is dead. Yes that is what is most *likely* to happen. You don't get any internet points for stating this.
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May 12, 2015 19:36
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Do I get points for knowing this would happen from the moment the show was announced 
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May 12, 2015 19:49
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zoux posted:Do I get points for knowing this would happen from the moment the show was announced I think most people knew a Constantine show called Constantine on NBC on Fridays was going to be a long shot in terms of success. So, unfortunately, nope! You took the sure bet! You get NOTHING!
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May 12, 2015 20:02
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Shame really, because John himself was perfectly cast.
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May 12, 2015 21:03
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Rhymenoserous posted:Shame really, because John himself was perfectly cast. I bought 'Assassin's Creed 4 during a Steam sale a long time ago and only just staryed playing it. It was really fun to find out I get to play as Pirate John Constantine.
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May 13, 2015 02:12
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Scyantific posted:So much poo poo crammed into tonight's Flash episode Haven't watched it yet, was tonight the finale? Or next week?
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May 13, 2015 03:38
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Kingtheninja posted:Haven't watched it yet, was tonight the finale? Or next week? Next week is the finale, but tonight is setting up for that, and it did a stellar job.
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May 13, 2015 03:40
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Guy A. Person posted:Next week is the finale, but tonight is setting up for that, and it did a stellar job. Tonight felt like it could have easily been part of the finale itself. It was a fun episode. SHIELD finale was good. That damned end tag just had to leave us hanging. 
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SHIELD was incredible. If you bailed in the first season, please watch Season 2. It's great television.
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So in comics, whenever they introduce a serum or potion of some kind, they never even start explaining what's in it because it's comic book super science and only very specific fictional geniuses are supposed to even know how it works. Makes sense. On tonight's SHIELD, they explained what Mr. Hyde's formula is made of. Gorilla testosterone, crystal meth and a dash of peppermint, with the powers kicking in after taking electric paddles to the chest and an adrenaline injection. That... sounds like a party  Meanwhile, Hyde is my favorite MCU villain. He's like a Batman '66 villain in a modern Marvel setting and it's so loving absurd and amazing. Tonight also gave us the most badass line from Mack. *Gordon the teleporter appears with Mack sitting across from him, holding an axe* "It's Gordon, right?" "Yes. And you are?" "I'm the guy who kills Gordon."
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May 13, 2015 05:54
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Flash's episode felt like two episodes smashed into one, which is a shame because it felt like they could have dealt with the two storylines in 2 seperate complete episodes. Sadly more time was spent on the Rogues and too little time spent on Reverse Flash.
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Madkal posted:Flash's episode felt like two episodes smashed into one, which is a shame because it felt like they could have dealt with the two storylines in 2 seperate complete episodes. Sadly more time was spent on the Rogues and too little time spent on Reverse Flash. This is true. I am hoping that the finale has more Reverse Flash stuff because that was pretty rushed given all of the build up.
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Gavok posted:So in comics, whenever they introduce a serum or potion of some kind, they never even start explaining what's in it because it's comic book super science and only very specific fictional geniuses are supposed to even know how it works. Makes sense. That might be the most badass line from Mack. The most badass line is by far "Science, beyotch"
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Madkal posted:Flash's episode felt like two episodes smashed into one, which is a shame because it felt like they could have dealt with the two storylines in 2 seperate complete episodes. Sadly more time was spent on the Rogues and too little time spent on Reverse Flash. Agreed. I was especially disappointed given that the previews made it look like the whole episode would basically be Reverse Flash, then they did a bait-and-switch and threw Rogues at us. I couldn't be too mad though when Captain Cold was in a bar and loving "Cold As Ice" came on the jukebox. Goddamn it's so cheesy I love it.
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May 13, 2015 06:23
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The episode was called Rogue Air, that's hardly a switch.
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May 13, 2015 06:59
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Gavok posted:Meanwhile, Hyde is my favorite MCU villain. He's like a Batman '66 villain in a modern Marvel setting and it's so loving absurd and amazing. So you're telling me that Mr. Hyde is in Agents of SHIELD, and he's played by Kyle MacLachlan? I may have to actually watch this show now.
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May 13, 2015 12:42
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He's great on it too. Unfortunately it's a spoiler that he's Hyde, because they built up to it kind of subtly for a while.
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Lightning Lord posted:So you're telling me that Mr. Hyde is in Agents of SHIELD, and he's played by Kyle MacLachlan? I may have to actually watch this show now. You should probably watch the show. It found it's stride and is really really good. Season 1 I'll grant you was pretty mediocre with some High spots until "End of the Beginning" and "Turn, Turn Turn"(Episode 16 and 17 IIRC) the Winter Solider stuff, along with the writers finally starting to nail writing these characters led to them salvaging the season. Season 2 was fantastic on all levels. Ward who was the most generic rear end spy male protagonist ends up becoming the best member of the cast.
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