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ljtrigirl
Aug 13, 2015

I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the Salami and the Bologna combined!

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

$$

Venture to make a few guesses now?

I kind of hate this question. It feels like fishing to see what kind of information he may or may not have.

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

ljtrigirl posted:

I mean, do you disagree with it?

Wait for it :unsmigghh:

ljtrigirl
Aug 13, 2015

I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the Salami and the Bologna combined!

Rarity posted:

This is an overly serious reaction to a very jokey post from Hal. Later on she claims that she understands jokephase so why does she react the way she does here? It could be supporting a scum buddy as I already mentioned, it could be she knows the pearl is bad for town. That's all speculation though, my main issue with this post is that I don't see it as a towny way of thinking. If Sam's the scummiest then he should be lynched, pearl or no pearl. This reaction says that ltrigirl is judging the lynch target by a different metric.


Oh hey, it's the traditional Attacking Meinberg Case(TM). We all know Meinberg, we know what he's like on D1, he's such an easy target on D1 cause he's such an awkward poster. I think ljtrigirl's just looking for the easiest target here and doesn't realise that we understand him.


Already been mentioned but backpeddling


This is her making excuses for her playstyle, it's a very defensive move made out of desire to survive.

##vote ljtrigirl

Well, I didn't think his thing about lynching the pearl guy was a joke. Regardless, I wanted to get that out there. There is more than just one scum. And while I lynch claims that I don't believe, if the pearl kills people, we would have to spend a lynch on him if he is scum.

Dude. I'm better at being evil than that.

Also, I have a harsh playstyle. One of the reasons that I came to this site is that I'm trying to be less full on assertive all the time. So, yeah. I saw myself getting too serious to quickly and decided to back off.

ljtrigirl
Aug 13, 2015

I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the Salami and the Bologna combined!

Kashuno posted:

What seems strange to me is the backpedaling is immediate, within the same minute. If the backpedaling had been over a longer time, it would make sense to have been a possible reconsideration. Instead, it appears there was a change of heart but the two posts so close timing-wise makes it feel like it was a conscious effort to garner some light town cred.

I don't understand why you think that I reconsidered anything. That was an empty post. It still is an empty post. I just decided not to get overly serious and aggressive early.

ljtrigirl
Aug 13, 2015

I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the Salami and the Bologna combined!

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

If I do decide to case ljt later in this game please remember that Rarity's case makes her scummier not townier and that my case exists outside of hers tia

Her being rarity or me?

ljtrigirl
Aug 13, 2015

I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the Salami and the Bologna combined!

Rarity posted:

Wait for it :unsmigghh:

I feel like we're talking about different things though. I mean, it's not like I was suggesting permainvincibility for the person holding the pearl. But given that there are multiple evils AND we don't know what the pearl does but the game seems to be focused on it, why would you be that opposed to a one day no touching period? Like, I'm assuming it's a crucial part of the game. Why wouldn't we trying to figure it out early?

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I don't think the LJ votes are good because she is new to this site. Sure, she has played Mafia before and seems to be well versed in searching for scum, but it also seems rude to not give her at least until D2 to find her footing within this community.

I doubt I would still be playing if everyone voted me out on D1 of my very first game. Now granted that was a little different cause I hadn't ever played Mafia before, but the principle is the same: give the new person a day before you really go all out on them (even if they are scum).

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

ljtrigirl posted:

Well, I didn't think his thing about lynching the pearl guy was a joke. Regardless, I wanted to get that out there. There is more than just one scum. And while I lynch claims that I don't believe, if the pearl kills people, we would have to spend a lynch on him if he is scum.

I'm trying to parse the second part of this sentence and it is making zero sense to me. You lynch claims you don't trust but if the pearl kills people (why would we assume that?) we would have to use a day lynching him if he's scum (as we would any scum). And what does there being more than one scum matter, if Sam's the scummiest he should still be lynched.

PS. Please call it scum instead of evil, it sounds so wrong

ljtrigirl posted:

Also, I have a harsh playstyle. One of the reasons that I came to this site is that I'm trying to be less full on assertive all the time.

Oh boy did you come to the wrong town

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

TMMadman posted:

I don't think the LJ votes are good because she is new to this site. Sure, she has played Mafia before and seems to be well versed in searching for scum, but it also seems rude to not give her at least until D2 to find her footing within this community.

I doubt I would still be playing if everyone voted me out on D1 of my very first game. Now granted that was a little different cause I hadn't ever played Mafia before, but the principle is the same: give the new person a day before you really go all out on them (even if they are scum).

My first game on SA ever I made a couple atrocious slips on d1 that should have gotten me lynched. I was forgiven because I was new. I was scum.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Kashuno posted:

My first game on SA ever I made a couple atrocious slips on d1 that should have gotten me lynched. I was forgiven because I was new. I was scum.

I know you were scum in your first game and it was still right to give you a pass on D1.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

It is good to let new scum live because they tend to link themselves to more experienced scum who would be harder to figure out otherwise.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

ljtrigirl posted:

I feel like we're talking about different things though. I mean, it's not like I was suggesting permainvincibility for the person holding the pearl. But given that there are multiple evils AND we don't know what the pearl does but the game seems to be focused on it, why would you be that opposed to a one day no touching period? Like, I'm assuming it's a crucial part of the game. Why wouldn't we trying to figure it out early?

At the end of the day mafia is mafia. All the roles and setup and gimmicks are just that, the crux of the game is on reading people and finding contradictions and flaws. Why put that aside to focus on a gimmick which is highly unlikely to change the core of the game?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

CCKeane posted:

It is good to let new scum live because they tend to link themselves to more experienced scum who would be harder to figure out otherwise.

Keane, who do you think is scum?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Rarity posted:

Keane, who do you think is scum?

YOU CAN SEE ME?!

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact
I made it through the conference call, guys.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Did your pants

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

merk posted:

I made it through the conference call, guys. by peeing myself

I added in what I read in my head.

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this

Rarity posted:

Oh look and then you jump on Sam with a vote that could easily be played off as a joke or pushed as a serious case.

Boo, Hal.

Boo.

I agree with this post, even if I am told that agreeing with posts is bad.

Boo, Hal.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Rarity posted:

Keane, who do you think is scum?

Off hand I'd say TMM and Kash responded pretty opportunistically to my play. I think Kash is worse and I think their couching their votes in the cases of others feels overly explained.

TMM has posted well since thogh, so he is probably okay. Merk is going to accuse me of being scum soon (I have ghostly precognition) but he is town. Ljtrigirl is too new to tell, particularly since they have played on other sites with other standards and such.

Diqnol and you feel fine.

I haven't gotten massively scummy reads from anybody, and while I have played the game of making a mountain over a molehill day one, that is not going to be my play this game (since I have a powerful role I would like to preserve) so I'll probably be more conservative and weak with my calls.

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this

CCKeane posted:

Trying rhymes with lying. Lying is for scum.

:agreed:

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this

TMMadman posted:

I don't think the LJ votes are good because she is new to this site. Sure, she has played Mafia before and seems to be well versed in searching for scum, but it also seems rude to not give her at least until D2 to find her footing within this community.

I doubt I would still be playing if everyone voted me out on D1 of my very first game. Now granted that was a little different cause I hadn't ever played Mafia before, but the principle is the same: give the new person a day before you really go all out on them (even if they are scum).

Yeah this is what I thought especially as I read Rarity's case.

How is a person new to SA going to know about Meinberg's meta?

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this

CCKeane posted:

I haven't gotten massively scummy reads from anybody, and while I have played the game of making a mountain over a molehill day one, that is not going to be my play this game (since I have a powerful role I would like to preserve) so I'll probably be more conservative and weak with my calls.

Massively Powerful Vanilla Keane.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

BottleKnight posted:

Massively Powerful Vanilla Keane.

Why would I claim vanilla early, that's just silly.

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact

CCKeane posted:

Merk is going to accuse me of being scum soon (I have ghostly precognition) but he is town.

hmm?

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

BottleKnight posted:

Massively Powerful Vanilla Keane.

Keane is so vanilla you can see the beans.


Wait a minute, those aren't beans!


Pull your pants back up Keane!

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

BottleKnight posted:

How is a person new to SA going to know about Meinberg's meta?

The point is she doesn't know his meta so that's why she makes the post. Taken out of context I don't see it as a post worth making a fuss about.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply


You heard me.

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact
Why am I town?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

merk posted:

Why am I town?

You really want me to tell you?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

merk posted:

Why am I town?

Any thoughts on ljtrigirl?

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact

CCKeane posted:

You really want me to tell you?

Yes

Rarity posted:

Any thoughts on ljtrigirl?

No

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

CCKeane posted:

I don't know, I think my ghostly and spooky postings have elicted quite the reaction!

*plucks a ghostly lyre*

Note this post, where Keane admits to being a ghostly liar.

##unvote, so I don't forget later.

fiery_valkyrie
Mar 26, 2003

I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.

Samfucius posted:

This is why jokephase bugs me a bit sometimes, especially in big games. People who show up late have to make a bunch of empty posts like this or else they're gonna look like lurkers, especially when looking only at post counts.

What I'm saying is liking one post is pretty worthless.

What even is this post? You're saying that Rarity made an empty post to avoid looking like a lurker? If you think that then why don't you mention what you think about her alignment. Is she scum?

You're making your own contentless scum post in my opinion.

##vote Sam

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact
##vote Sam

Do it.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

merk posted:

##vote Sam

Do it.
Yeah, I see it.
##Vote Samfucius

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

merk posted:

Yes


No

You're posting irrelevant and off topic things and generally playing more low key. This matches what I have seen you do as town several times. You typically play in a more alert and seemingly more cautious game with less goofing off as scum.

fiery_valkyrie
Mar 26, 2003

I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.

Rarity posted:


##vote ljtrigirl

No D1 newbie pass?

fiery_valkyrie
Mar 26, 2003

I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.

Rarity posted:

The point is she doesn't know his meta so that's why she makes the post. Taken out of context I don't see it as a post worth making a fuss about.

Wait, what post are you referring to not taking out of context?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

fiery_valkyrie posted:

No D1 newbie pass?

a) I've always thought that was for mafia newbies, not SA mafia newbies

b) It goes against my whole 'vote for the scummiest' reasoning

Lumpen posted:

Yeah, I see it.
##Vote Samfucius

Scumpen.

fiery_valkyrie posted:

Wait, what post are you referring to not taking out of context?

Meinberg's post that she initially jumped on

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fiery_valkyrie
Mar 26, 2003

I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.

Rarity posted:

a) I've always thought that was for mafia newbies, not SA mafia newbies

b) It goes against my whole 'vote for the scummiest' reasoning


Scumpen.


Meinberg's post that she initially jumped on

I don't agree. Mafia is different everywhere (just look at those 2+2 games). We should give everyone a D1 pass to learn how we play the game.

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