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CCKeane posted:Jesus, (a personal friend of mine, since I am dead) Diqnol and Merk the two of you have had this back and forth many times regardless of alignment and I think it eats up a lot of the focus of day one needlessly. I've tuned like 80% of it out because it feels like the same stuff over and over.
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TMMadman posted:Just wanted to come back and respond to this post. I guess I can see where you're coming from but I don't think I agree at the moment. It's certainly something I will keep in mind. Is that what you think that he was doing though? Because that wasn't how it seemed to me.
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Aug 21, 2015 03:48
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merk posted:My cases are independent of each other. I'm saying id vote Diqnol and if that wasn't going to happen would vote Birdstrike. Would you vote Gamer?
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Aug 21, 2015 03:50
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BottleKnight posted:1. Gamer Why is diqnol so low on the list? I thought he would be higher for you.
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Aug 21, 2015 03:51
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Would you vote Gamer? Don't really know. Is there a case that I can read?
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Aug 21, 2015 03:52
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ljtrigirl posted:Why is diqnol so low on the list? I thought he would be higher for you. Because I have other people I have found scummier in the meantime. I would still vote to lynch diqnol, based on the reasons I have already posted.
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Aug 21, 2015 03:53
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Mithross posted:Ok, you defended merk as not being scummy, just casing, and called out Diqnol. I agree with you, just remarked it was interesting. It stood out in my first read. As for "backing", it was perhaps a poor word choice. I look forward to your conclusions, especially on Kash. He pinged me early on for loudly bandwagoning a lot but has sense blended into the background.
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Aug 21, 2015 03:54
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ljtrigirl posted:Is that what you think that he was doing though? Because that wasn't how it seemed to me. Did you read my next post?
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Aug 21, 2015 03:55
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BottleKnight posted:Because I have other people I have found scummier in the meantime. I would still vote to lynch diqnol, based on the reasons I have already posted. But you've spend more posts on him than anyone else, if I remember. And he has way more vote pressure right now. I guess I just think that, if he is scum, you are bussing him here based on your interactions and the way that you've pressured him.
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Aug 21, 2015 03:56
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TMMadman posted:Did you read my next post? Yeah. You talked about your response and how you responded to it but not really about what you thought his motivation was.
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Aug 21, 2015 03:59
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ljtrigirl posted:But you've spend more posts on him than anyone else, if I remember. And he has way more vote pressure right now. Did you read my case on Gamer? I'm more sold on him as scum. I've posted reasons for everyone on that list, except Hal maybe, and Hal is just pinging me based on several things.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:00
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ljtrigirl posted:Yeah. You talked about your response and how you responded to it but not really about what you thought his motivation was. Ummm...are you sure about that? TMMadman posted:Hmm. You make a good point, but I guess it kind of depends on the player being pressured. Personally, I responded and engaged with Gamer because he seemed calm and inquisitive. I didn't particularly care for the vote going along with it, but I accepted it as just a vote to ensure I followed through with my promise.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:01
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ljtrigirl posted:But you've spend more posts on him than anyone else, if I remember. And he has way more vote pressure right now. Also I don't like the idea that I should be voting someone based on voting pressure. That seems like something a scum player would be paying attention to.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:04
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I want to lynch PM here or maybe Kashuno. Lumpen's recent stuff has been good enough that I'll at least give him until tomorrow. I'm kind of torn about diq and Merk. I think Merk's case on diq is better, but diq's frustration has felt genuine whereas Merk just kind of feels like he's sitting back and drumming his fingers together. And I really didn't like his pushback about me figuring out that diq = pizza because of posts because that feels like a really obvious thing to figure out. On the other hand, I feel like some of the engagement and votes on diq has seemed kind of bus-y to me. I think I'm leaning towards scum!diq, but I'd really rather focus on other people because I feel like most of their conversaitons have been alignment neutral. I still think that TMM is good. I think I've come around on Rarity. I think Keane might be good too, which is a definite change over before. I like the way he's switched between lightheartedness and content, and I like the places he's chosen to interject.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:04
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BottleKnight posted:Did you read my case on Gamer? I'm more sold on him as scum. Maybe it's just recent memory then. idk. I just had it in my mind that you super wanted to lynch diq today, and the fact that he was #4 on your list surprised me.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:05
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TMMadman posted:Ummm...are you sure about that? Yes. You're still talking about how you responded to it. Or maybe I'm reading that wrong. It reads as "I was ok with the vote on me because it caused me to engage with him further", not an assessment of his motivation for the vote.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:07
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BottleKnight posted:Also I don't like the idea that I should be voting someone based on voting pressure. That seems like something a scum player would be paying attention to. That a terribad mindset. Goods should be paying attention to it just as much if not more. Votes are our weapons. And multiple ones are more powerful than singletons. Besides, you need a bunch of people voting with you to lynch someone.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:08
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ljtrigirl posted:I'm kind of torn about diq and Merk. I think Merk's case on diq is better, but diq's frustration has felt genuine whereas Merk just kind of feels like he's sitting back and drumming his fingers together. I think that's just how Merk always is.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:09
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Is there a way to see all of someone's posts in a particular game? Also, I just figured out that clicking on quoted posts takes you to that post, which is hella useful.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:10
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ljtrigirl posted:That a terribad mindset. Goods should be paying attention to it just as much if not more. Votes are our weapons. And multiple ones are more powerful than singletons. If it's deadline I agree with you, but shouldn't we be voting our #1 scumread other than that? I get your argument about how it was unclear to you why I wasn't voting diqnol, but to say that it's surprising because of voting pressure? It irks me.
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SirSamVimes posted:I think that's just how Merk always is. Is there a way to go look at a game where he was good? Do you guys have game logs or anything like that?
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Aug 21, 2015 04:10
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BottleKnight posted:If it's deadline I agree with you, but shouldn't we be voting our #1 scumread other than that? But it's not just about voting. He was #4 on your list. That's not a "I'm just not voting him because I'd rather vote this dude", that's a "Yeah. Sure. Totally in on that if that's where it's heading" spot. Combined with my recollection of your posts on him, it just didn't make sense. And then you went and added Lumpen back in. And, yes. Clearly. I'm voting mine, which like no one seems to care about.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:14
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CCKeane posted:*performs an elaborate dance routine while playing a squeezebox accordian* ##vote Gamer
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Aug 21, 2015 04:14
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idk. Maybe I'm just arguing semantics, but given my scum lean on diq and the way that you've engaged against him, it felt more like bussing than trying to lynch someone you thought was scum.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:14
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Meinberg posted:##vote Gamer Dude. You're pretty much a coin flip, aren't you?
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ljtrigirl posted:But it's not just about voting. He was #4 on your list. That's not a "I'm just not voting him because I'd rather vote this dude", that's a "Yeah. Sure. Totally in on that if that's where it's heading" spot. Combined with my recollection of your posts on him, it just didn't make sense. And then you went and added Lumpen back in. I think that would accurately portray my thoughts on Diqnol. He is no longer my #1 scumread (obviously) but I would still vote for him because I think he is scummy.
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ljtrigirl posted:Is there a way to go look at a game where he was good? Do you guys have game logs or anything like that? Votefinder.org/player/merk
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Aug 21, 2015 04:16
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ljtrigirl posted:Yes. You're still talking about how you responded to it. Or maybe I'm reading that wrong. It reads as "I was ok with the vote on me because it caused me to engage with him further", not an assessment of his motivation for the vote. I think you're just not making the connection between the two posts. TMMadman posted:Since generally speaking a townies power lies in his vote, I feel like an acceptable use of that power is to pressure someone into putting forth some effort. TMMadman posted:I didn't particularly care for the vote going along with it, but I accepted it as just a vote to ensure I followed through with my promise. Those are the two statements in question and I think it should be obvious that the implication is yes I felt he was just pressuring me to put forth some effort. I mean sure, he could have just left the vote off and then put a vote on me later if I hadn't responded, but I can see using the vote as an acceptable use of pressure despite not particularly caring for it (mainly because it was against me.  ). For me, I just didn't see the move as very scummy at the time, so I wanted to explore why others felt that way. I can see their points, but I'm not sure I agree with it in this case.
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ljtrigirl posted:Is there a way to see all of someone's posts in a particular game? There's a pound sign and a question mark beneath a user's avatar. The former makes a link to the post, the latter sees all the posts in a thread. The OP has that link for all the posters, too.
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merk posted:Votefinder.org/player/merk This is not helping with the mental image of you sitting back and drumming your fingertips together. Which is weird because that's not really how you are in real life.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:17
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Sadly, I don't have enough time to keep up a decent posting gimmick. Life can be cruel at points, but so it goes. Looking over things, I really think that the conversation between merk and diqnol makes it impossible for me to readily discern alignment. I lean town for diqnol, but upon further contemplation and reading, I now have a solid null read on merk. Gamer is the one who has emerged as the most false thus far, and I feel like he is the most likely scum out of everyone today. I'm also uncertain about Hal and Samfucious; Hal mostly on account of his being nice to me. People who are nice to me are rarely town. Sam is more of a tone issue. There's something about his posting that just makes my gut rumble, I can't put my finger onto anything in specific, but I think he's worthy of further examination in the future. For the time being, though, I'm quite content with my vote on Gamer.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:19
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ljtrigirl posted:Is there a way to go look at a game where he was good? Do you guys have game logs or anything like that? http://votefinder.org/player/merk
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Aug 21, 2015 04:19
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ps my meta is that if I survive D1 then I win Just to help you, ljtri
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Aug 21, 2015 04:19
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your meta is that you get lynched day 1
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Aug 21, 2015 04:21
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Merk- Why didn't you do the same playstyle that you did in Lady Clarent's game?
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Meinberg posted:Sadly, I don't have enough time to keep up a decent posting gimmick. Life can be cruel at points, but so it goes. How so? Please be descriptive. Because my interactions this game has been poking someone for trying to get people to post without having content themselves and then swatting someone for being scum. Because diqnol is scum btw
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Aug 21, 2015 04:23
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SirSamVimes posted:your meta is that you get lynched day 1 this isn't mutually exclusive
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TMMadman posted:I think you're just not making the connection between the two posts. Probably. Or I just don't speak TMM yet.
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Have we played together before, maybe on POG? Your username is weirdly familiar.
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Gamerofthegame posted:ps my meta is that if I survive D1 then I win Blech. This post makes me want to vote you.
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