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CCKeane: Jan 28, 2008; my shit posts don't die, they multiply

BottleKnight posted:

Is the case on Samfucius really just his Keane vote/explanation?

It's really lovely!

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:01

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 08:27

CCKeane: Jan 28, 2008; my shit posts don't die, they multiply

The Ninth Layer posted:

He's outright lurking and has almost no presence this game. When he does post he doesn't come off as self-conscious which is a point in his favor, though maybe I only feel that way because I felt most of the D1 suspicion on him was missing the mark. He's someone I would have no problem voting for though, we have too many players in the game who are saying nothing. I don't think he's particularly scummier than, for example, Hal, the other Sam, or EXAKT.

Hot take, good to know.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:02

The Ninth Layer: Jun 20, 2007

Lumpen posted:

True. I don't think I have ever played with him before. Is he a Known lovely Player?

I don't know. But in his catchup post he acknowledges that merk is playing like a defeated player approaching his lynch, and says ljtrigirl is a good case, but two posts later seems unaware that the deadline is within fourteen hours. So it makes that first catchup post look like fake effort just to punch the ticket in the thread.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:03

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Honestly the only time I've been scumbuddies with Sam he lurked really really hard and I did too. I can definitely see him as scum. I just don't know if that one point makes him a better case.

Though in this game is probably does. Would vote Samfucius.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:04

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

BottleKnight posted:

Is the case on Samfucius really just his Keane vote/explanation?

look at these posts from day 1, and tell me that there's genuine thought behind them

During the Diq/merk slapfight, he

Samfucius posted:

Yeah I am seeing diqnol right now.

##vote diqnol

votes for Diq without explanation, but then lets us know that

Samfucius posted:

In the interest of developing more opinions, I am watching merk and those he interacts with.

Then, he lets us know that while Diq is still scummy, and maybe even scummier than ever because of the way he's hiding in order to defuse attention on himself, he's going to switch his vote to Rarity because

Samfucius posted:

I voted him because ~I'd fight you and you would lose but I don't wanna~ is just so bad in every way. He's disappeared, and I agree that it could very well be to draw heat away. It is kinda working, because in his absence I am starting to swing rarity. Not that diqnol is becoming less scummy, rarity is just eclipsing him.

##unvote
##vote rarity

for reasons that I'm not quite clear on.

Then, today, he follows up on neither of those reads, pressures neither Rar nor Diq, and just kinda hangs out and makes lovely snipes at Keane.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:08

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

SirSamVimes posted:

Also, I would honestly rather not drop the the pearl. It'd be pretty bad for scum to get their hands on it, and while dropping it would allow it to go to another town there's a very real chance that a scum player would snatch it up.

I'm wondering why it would be bad for scum to get it. It wouldn't surprise me if that was true, but nothing has actually said as much. Either Vimes knows something and hasn't shared it until this hint, or he's making up reasons/guessing. Combined with the joke vote/leave, and general lurkyness, and I'm not thrilled with him just now.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:08

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

Actually, yeah, I've just talked myself back into voting Sam

##unvote
##vote samfucius

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:08

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

I feel suspicious of Samfucius too. He's lurking hard, zero effort, and not making any waves. Not good votes either.

Has Mithross posted on D2 at all? I wonder if he's getting replaced. A slot that replaces out twice is probably Scum with lovely buddies.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:09

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Oh, should have previewed. Mithross, showin' up when lurkers start getting called out.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:09

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Actually.

SirSamVimes posted:

I want to make a case on Meinberg but Hiipfire doesn't really have the knowledge to say where he was coming from with the low content/lurking so I feel like it'd be kinda unfair even if he felt pretty scummy.

This is exactly the kind of white noise I'd post as scum. It shows that I have a read, but still gives me an excuse to be incredibly :effort:

. His reads come across as forced.

The Ninth Layer posted:

I don't know. But in his catchup post he acknowledges that merk is playing like a defeated player approaching his lynch, and says ljtrigirl is a good case, but two posts later seems unaware that the deadline is within fourteen hours. So it makes that first catchup post look like fake effort just to punch the ticket in the thread.

This is also very convincing. I was going to put a vote here but while previewing I saw PMom posted a case on Samfucius so I want to take a look at that.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:10

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

He literally just posted :v:

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:11

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

I need to apologize for being absent this game day, my vacation is coming up so my boss has been scheduling me extra to make up the loss of hours. I'm in the middle of an 11 day week with a couple doubles thrown in.

And no, I'm not being replaced.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:12

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Pinterest Mom posted:

Then, today, he follows up on neither of those reads, pressures neither Rar nor Diq, and just kinda hangs out and makes lovely snipes at Keane.

Yeah, what the gently caress. I had forgotten about his reads D1. That is absurdly scummy. ##vote Samfucius

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:12

The Ninth Layer: Jun 20, 2007

Pinterest Mom posted:

look at these posts from day 1, and tell me that there's genuine thought behind them

I don't think "scum alignment" follows from "thoughtless posting."

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:12

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Mithross posted:

I'm wondering why it would be bad for scum to get it. It wouldn't surprise me if that was true, but nothing has actually said as much. Either Vimes knows something and hasn't shared it until this hint, or he's making up reasons/guessing. Combined with the joke vote/leave, and general lurkyness, and I'm not thrilled with him just now.

You think?

What does him not sharing what the pearl does say about his alignment?

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:14

The Ninth Layer: Jun 20, 2007

SirSam's scumhunting contributions today literally amount to a jokevote on a claimed mason, I don't know how Samfucius is worse for voting a guy who refused to explain why he hasn't voted.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:14

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

The Ninth Layer posted:

I don't think "scum alignment" follows from "thoughtless posting."

I read his inconsistency as a symptom of forced posting and reads. The fact that he is lurking and then not even continuing trains of thought? I think that says a lot about his alignment, to me at least.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:16

The Ninth Layer: Jun 20, 2007

BottleKnight posted:

I read his inconsistency as a symptom of forced posting and reads. The fact that he is lurking and then not even continuing trains of thought? I think that says a lot about his alignment, to me at least.

He's voting people based on what they are saying in the moment. Very obvious if you look at the timing of his votes. Again there's not a ton of thought behind his posts but it's not like his votes are some big mystery.

Do you think his read on Diqnol being a big baby is one that needed to be carried over to Day 2? Do you really think his vote on Keane (who again refuses to explain why he has not bothered to vote) is actually worse than SirSam jokevoting Rarity on deadline day?

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:18

The Ninth Layer: Jun 20, 2007

Samfucius didn't pursue Rarity on Day 2, who on Day 2 claimed to be a confirmed mason. I guess that means he's inconsistent and scum! :rolleye:

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:19

EXAKT Science: Aug 14, 2012; 8 on the Kinsey scale

BottleKnight posted:

You think?

What does him not sharing what the pearl does say about his alignment?

The fact that he isn't forthcoming with information that could help the town is scummy.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:19

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

EXAKT Science posted:

The fact that he isn't forthcoming with information that could help the town is scummy.

Unless the info would help scum more than town?

I think Vimes is scummy but him not telling us about the pearl in public chat is alignment neutral.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:21

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

The Ninth Layer posted:

He's voting people based on what they are saying in the moment. Very obvious if you look at the timing of his votes. Again there's not a ton of thought behind his posts but it's not like his votes are some big mystery.

Do you think his read on Diqnol being a big baby is one that needed to be carried over to Day 2? Do you really think his vote on Keane (who again refuses to explain why he has not bothered to vote) is actually worse than SirSam jokevoting Rarity on deadline day?

I will reread his D1 in light of this, because your analysis here is pretty good.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:22

CCKeane: Jan 28, 2008; my shit posts don't die, they multiply

BottleKnight posted:

Unless the info would help scum more than town?

I think Vimes is scummy but him not telling us about the pearl in public chat is alignment neutral.

loving truth to the second point.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:24

CCKeane: Jan 28, 2008; my shit posts don't die, they multiply

The Ninth Layer posted:

Samfucius didn't pursue Rarity on Day 2, who on Day 2 claimed to be a confirmed mason. I guess that means he's inconsistent and scum!

Is samfu not scummy or is samfu a worse option than your choices?

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:24

CCKeane: Jan 28, 2008; my shit posts don't die, they multiply

*sips Hi ecto cooler*

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:25

The Ninth Layer: Jun 20, 2007

The central mechanic of this game is being held by a lurker whose sole contribution to our Day 2 scumhunting efforts has been a deadline jokevote.

##unvote ##vote SirSamVimes

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:25

EXAKT Science: Aug 14, 2012; 8 on the Kinsey scale

BottleKnight posted:

Unless the info would help scum more than town?

I think Vimes is scummy but him not telling us about the pearl in public chat is alignment neutral.

He said it didn't do anything about it, but refuses to give it up because he's afraid scum will get it. He's either lying or just willingly refusing to share any information. Both of these positions, especially the first, are detrimental to town, because access to information helps town more than it helps scum.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:26

The Ninth Layer: Jun 20, 2007

CCKeane posted:

Is samfu not scummy or is samfu a worse option than your choices?

He's a pure lurker lynch and a worse option. There's a better guy named Sam that we could be voting instead.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:26

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

EXAKT Science posted:

He said it didn't do anything about it, but refuses to give it up because he's afraid scum will get it. He's either lying or just willingly refusing to share any information. Both of these positions, especially the first, are detrimental to town, because access to information helps town more than it helps scum.

He said it didn't do anything N1. He never said it didn't do anything.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:27

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

BottleKnight posted:

You think?

What does him not sharing what the pearl does say about his alignment?

Not sharing what it does is a null tell, there's no way to know if it should be shared or not, without knowing the information.

What I don't like was the offhand throw out of that information. Nothing Vimes has said before this indicated that he had any more information than we did about the pearl, but now it would be bad for scum to get their hands on it.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:29

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

EXAKT Science posted:

He said it didn't do anything about it, but refuses to give it up because he's afraid scum will get it. He's either lying or just willingly refusing to share any information. Both of these positions, especially the first, are detrimental to town, because access to information helps town more than it helps scum.

This is a Scummy, fishing post from an opportunistic bandwagoner.

What happens to the pearl if the person holding the pearl gets lynched? Does it drop and open for a grab when then thread opens?

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:32

EXAKT Science: Aug 14, 2012; 8 on the Kinsey scale

Lumpen posted:

This is a Scummy, fishing post from an opportunistic bandwagoner.

What happens to the pearl if the person holding the pearl gets lynched? Does it drop and open for a grab when then thread opens?

Yeah totally, not a consistent position from someone who has been vocal about how they perceive Vimes as scummy since the start of the day. I maintain that the pearl is bad and no one should have it.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:37

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

The Ninth Layer posted:

He's voting people based on what they are saying in the moment. Very obvious if you look at the timing of his votes. Again there's not a ton of thought behind his posts but it's not like his votes are some big mystery.

Do you think his read on Diqnol being a big baby is one that needed to be carried over to Day 2? Do you really think his vote on Keane (who again refuses to explain why he has not bothered to vote) is actually worse than SirSam jokevoting Rarity on deadline day?

Point taken on Rarity/masonry, but yeah, I think voting based on what people are saying at the moment is scummy. It's indicative of reaching for whatever vote comes your way rather than actually holding reasoned opinions that you came to.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:41

The Ninth Layer: Jun 20, 2007

Pinterest Mom posted:

Point taken on Rarity/masonry, but yeah, I think voting based on what people are saying at the moment is scummy. It's indicative of reaching for whatever vote comes your way rather than actually holding reasoned opinions that you came to.

Or it's a different playstyle.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:44

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

I have reread both Sams and Vimes comes across as scummier. Samfucius does have opinions even if he is not posting much. Vimes just points stuff out without really managing to have opinions that register as more than white noise.

##unvote
##vote vimes

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:45

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Lumpen posted:

What happens to the pearl if the person holding the pearl gets lynched? Does it drop and open for a grab when then thread opens?

Should we hold back from someone we think is scummy because we don't know what will happen to the pearl? Even if it does just drop, we have basically the same chance of picking it up again as scum does.

If anyone besides Ecco knows, it's Vimes. And he's apparently gone for the day.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:46

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Mithross posted:

Should we hold back from someone we think is scummy because we don't know what will happen to the pearl? Even if it does just drop, we have basically the same chance of picking it up again as scum does.

If anyone besides Ecco knows, it's Vimes. And he's apparently gone for the day.

Either rarity or kashuno picks it up. If anyone else picks it up beforehand, that's scummy as gently caress. If you are town but not rarity or kashuno do not pick it up.

Unless someone disagrees with that and wants to discuss it, that's probably the way it should be.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:47

EXAKT Science: Aug 14, 2012; 8 on the Kinsey scale

BottleKnight posted:

Either rarity or kashuno picks it up. If anyone else picks it up beforehand, that's scummy as gently caress. If you are town but not rarity or kashuno do not pick it up.

Unless someone disagrees with that and wants to discuss it, that's probably the way it should be.

My concern is that the pearl switches the alignment of the holder or some similar dumb thing.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:49

Kashuno: Oct 9, 2012; Where the hell is my SWORD?; Grimey Drawer

EXAKT Science posted:

My concern is that the pearl switches the alignment of the holder or some similar dumb thing.

All the better reason for Rarity or I to be the one to pick it up as we will know real quick

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:50

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 08:27

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

I guess we could hold a group consensus that nobody picks up the pearl. I'm not super interested in speculating about what it does but I guess it wouldn't be too hard to say just don't pick it up.

# ? Aug 25, 2015 22:51

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