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So far as I know he is saying Australia should offer the exact same assistance to Christian refugees as to other refugees, that is, permanent settlement in Australia.
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I have to say I think there's more to it than race - I think there's an element of wealth in there as well. People seem to fear hordes of poor people storming the barricades and looting the mansion while we cower under the sideboard. We would absolutely not be detaining American refugees in camps if the country descended into civil war. But if North Korea suddenly went apeshit, I can't imagine we would be less than welcoming to Japanese or South Korean refugees either. And then I can very easily imagine us being squeamish about Chinese refugees. There is definitely an element of wealth to it.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 06:30 |
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The thing about being a refugee is that, you are also a person. You might be Christian, you might be an accountant, you might be a Man United fan. As long as you satisfy the main test, that you are a refugee, what is wrong with a person who wants to help using these things about you to argue that you should be given safety in Australia?
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Negligent posted:So far as I know he is saying Australia should offer the exact same assistance to Christian refugees as to other refugees, that is, permanent settlement in Cambodia.
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Why are people over analyzing this when the article spells out their reasoning for you? As if it wasn't self evident. quote:No more muslim men. Birb Katter posted:So the dump your Aussie workers and hire foreigners on the cheap thing Abbotts department told the cruise company owner that Abbott also emphatically denied, in a surprise twist it turns out Abbott was lying. Lmfao what country is abbott the pm of again?
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 06:34 |
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Negligent posted:Persecution of Christian minorities is actually a thing in many parts of the world, where Christians do not enjoy the privileged position they have in the anglosphere. Uses the word "Angloshpere" un-ironically, expects to be taken seriously... Anyone who thinks this whole Christian preference thing isn't about anti Muslim racism is at best naive but more realistically an arsehole (and don't even go to the "Islam is not a race" bullshit).
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katlington posted:Why are people over analyzing this when the article spells out their reasoning for you? As if it wasn't self evident. High-Net-Worth-Individual-istan
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Tony will personally check their knees for rug burns at the borders. Trackers will sound alarms if subjects face North West at suspicious times of the day.
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Unimpressed posted:Uses the word "Angloshpere" un-ironically, expects to be taken seriously... What is wrong with the word anglosphere. It has a Wikipedia page and everything. Also, Syrian Christians and Syrian Sunni Muslims are both racially Syrian Arabs. It would be a very strange form of 'racism' that could discriminate between two people of the same race based on the individual's religion.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:After the lid was blown on systemic wage fraud known as the "half pay scam" across the 7-Eleven convenience store empire, a new more insidious scam has emerged known as the "cash scam". My former housemate was caught up in one of these. It was a relative who was scamming him too
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Negligent posted:What is wrong with the word anglosphere. It has a Wikipedia page and everything. Can you literally not follow instructions
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Negligent posted:What is wrong with the word anglosphere. It has a Wikipedia page and everything. So does "friend zone".
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 07:29 |
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Don't act like the word anglosphere is a racial slur lmao
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Negligent posted:The thing about being a refugee is that, you are also a person. Because you've either missed the part where they've said, "no muslim men," or are wilfully ignoring it. No one is saying that christians are incapable of being persecuted. Just that it's hosed up to discriminate based on what will hurt the polls less rather than on the basis of who is actually in the most need.
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'Stop bombing, start resettling': Jeff Kennett's plea to 'failed' Federal Parliament http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...908-gjhi6h.html quote:Former Liberal premier Jeff Kennett has launched a blistering attack on the Federal Parliament saying the lack of national leadership is failing voters and the question of welcoming tens of thousands of refugees from Syria into Australia should not even be up for debate.
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Amethyst posted:Don't act like the word anglosphere is a racial slur lmao Your momma's so fat they call her the anglosphere.
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Halo14 posted:'Stop bombing, start resettling': Jeff Kennett's plea to 'failed' Federal Parliament A day where i agree with jeff kennett what is happening
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I always thought anglosphere was just a convenient word for 'countries that speak English as the primary language and as a result England's past spread and the shared language have something of a shared culture'. Since when has it turned into a mockable thing? It's a very handy word. (Really, it's "people who watch mostly unmodified American TV.") MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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What's wrong with the word 'Anglosphere'? Are Francophonie and Hispanosphere out too?
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how can a sphere have angles
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Forbidden words: -Anglosphere -Partisan
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-------------------------- Labor motion against Heydon voted down http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/09/08/labor-motion-against-heydon-voted-down.html quote:A Labor senate motion calling on the governor-general to dismiss unions royal commissioner Dyson Heydon has been voted down. Halo14 fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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Murodese posted:how can a sphere have angles Non-euclidian colonialism.
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Murodese posted:how can a sphere have angles There's a wiki for that too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_trigonometry
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open24hours posted:What's wrong with the word 'Anglosphere'? Are Francophonie and Hispanosphere out too? Anglosphere and Francophonie (I've never heard that one, but I'll trust you on it) are different. Anglosphere isn't used to denote english speaking countries, at least not by the people who use it most as a part of their world view (spoiler alert, they're all right wing conservatives). It denotes the white, neo-capitalist, "leaders of the free world" countries, i.e. the 5 eyes. South Africa used to be part of the Anglosphere until apartheid became really uncool. English is the primary and official language of Ghana for example, but Ghana isn't part of the Anglosphere, I can assure you of that. Same for Jamaica, Bahamas, etc.
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Halo14 posted:
Strange that Muir was against it
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Unimpressed posted:Anglosphere and Francophonie (I've never heard that one, but I'll trust you on it) are different. Anglosphere isn't used to denote english speaking countries, at least not by the people who use it most as a part of their world view (spoiler alert, they're all right wing conservatives). It denotes the white, neo-capitalist, "leaders of the free world" countries, i.e. the 5 eyes. South Africa used to be part of the Anglosphere until apartheid became really uncool. English is the primary and official language of Ghana for example, but Ghana isn't part of the Anglosphere, I can assure you of that. Same for Jamaica, Bahamas, etc. Sorry I don't have a subscription to Red Flag or w.e poo poo you have to read to be aware of that. My leftist cred points -1
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Unimpressed posted:Anglosphere and Francophonie (I've never heard that one, but I'll trust you on it) are different. Anglosphere isn't used to denote english speaking countries, at least not by the people who use it most as a part of their world view (spoiler alert, they're all right wing conservatives). It denotes the white, neo-capitalist, "leaders of the free world" countries, i.e. the 5 eyes. South Africa used to be part of the Anglosphere until apartheid became really uncool. English is the primary and official language of Ghana for example, but Ghana isn't part of the Anglosphere, I can assure you of that. Same for Jamaica, Bahamas, etc. Yeah, that's true, although it would be entirely possible to get into a big semantic argument about competing definitions of Anglosphere. I still think it's a useful word though, and it's usually pretty clear if people are talking about the Anglosphere or all English speaking countries from the context.
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open24hours posted:Yeah, that's true, although it would be entirely possible to get into a big semantic argument about competing definitions of Anglosphere. I still think it's a useful word though, and it's usually pretty clear if people are talking about the Anglosphere or all English speaking countries from the context. Yeah, you're right, and if Pol Pot there hadn't used it in the context of being an apologist for anti Muslim racism, I probably wouldn't have noticed it.
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Negligent posted:Sorry I don't have a subscription to Red Flag or w.e poo poo you have to read to be aware of that. My leftist cred points -1 You don't need a subscription to be aware of it. Just a little understanding of the reason people use words like that and where they're coming from. On second thought, maybe a subscription is the right option for you. I'd send you a voucher, but I've never even heard of Red Flag other than being the name of an aerial combat exercise and some spy poo poo (admittedly the spy poo poo was from Archer, so it might be made up).
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You Am I posted:Strange that Muir was against it Not really. He's smart enough to realise it was a dumb stunt that would have no practical effect whatsoever.
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http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/sep/08/john-howard-says-erosion-of-australias-gun-safety-laws-would-be-huge-mistake have john howard yelling at the abbott government for going against gun control that man has no allies
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Leyonhjelm has said he “blackmailed” the government into allowing imports of the weapon, which is capable of firing seven shots in succession, but is not technically considered a semi-automatic, and therefore banned, gun. In exchange, the libertarian senator voted against a Labor amendment requiring an adult or guardian be present when blood, saliva or fingerprints are taken from children by the Australia’s Border Force. libertarians, voted for government taking ownership of peoples bodies in exchange for guns since 1950.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Because you've either missed the part where they've said, "no muslim men," or are wilfully ignoring it. No one is saying that christians are incapable of being persecuted. Just that it's hosed up to discriminate based on what will hurt the polls less rather than on the basis of who is actually in the most need. It is a policy for the Liberal Party Right. And the Liberal party has never concealed espousing Christian beliefs. They do so openly, and sometimes to great mirth of their detractors.
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fact check infographic on australia's refugee intake
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Lid posted:Leyonhjelm has said he “blackmailed” the government into allowing imports of the weapon, which is capable of firing seven shots in succession, but is not technically considered a semi-automatic, and therefore banned, gun. From what I understand, which isn't much, the gun in question isn't anything special, it's just that for some reason you can buy this one with a less restricted class of gun license than you need to buy similar ones. Can anyone who knows more about this kind of thing explain which loophole is being exploited? [edit: quote:http://www.range365.com/lever-shotgun-proving-popular-down-under What a terribly written law.] open24hours fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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quote:A SENIOR federal official has confirmed a cruise line was advised to sack 60 Australian workers and hire foreigners to avoid the consequences of Government legislation. The video that accompanied that article was really hard to watch. http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/pm-embarrassed-by-bureaucrats-sack-the-aussie-workers-advice-admission/story-fnkgde2y-1227517258644 Also, in semi-related news... Remember the Alexander Spirit (tanker in tasmania with crew being sold out to foreign labour?) Yeah well that ship has just returned to the Australian coast, crewed with foreign labour. gently caress this government into the ground.
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Leyonhjelm has said he “blackmailed” the government into allowing imports of the weapon, which is capable of firing seven shots in succession, but is not technically considered a semi-automatic, and therefore banned, gun. In exchange, the libertarian senator voted against a Labor amendment requiring an adult or guardian be present when blood, saliva or fingerprints are taken from children by the Australia’s Border Force.
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Arguments against democracy: some voters literally too stupid to correctly use a ballot paper.
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open24hours posted:
Our gun laws are really badly written. Anyway this shouldn't be an issue at all the firearm should be made category D and the the manufacturer could make a five round version for cat' C then it would be done and dusted. Sadly, as you pointed out, the law where written by people who got their gun knowledge from Arnie films and didn't really consult with people who knew what they were on about. E: just fit clarity a lever action is not semi auto' not just technically but not at all. How the gently caress did we end up in a position where the protection of children is dealt away for the freedom to buy a specific model of gun? How dose this country keep getting worse? Tasmantor fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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